05 Apr 2004: Remove uk.net.regulation

From: dmahon_vote_xunr@amigo.co.uk
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:17:56 +0100
Subject: Result: Remove uk.net.regulation FAILS 20:15
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.regulation,uk.net


                          RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES

Summary: Remove uk.net.regulation

Remove unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.regulation FAILS 20:15

YES beat NO by a majority of 5 votes. For a proposal to pass, there must
be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS.

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Voting closed at 23:59:59 Sat, 27th March 2004.

Proponent: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@davros.org>
Votetaker: David Mahon <dmahon_vote_xunr@amigo.co.uk>

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The Results:

The results follow below in the following order:

1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period
2) Result
3) Individual Vote Details
4) Votetakers Comments
5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
6) Proposal
7) Rationale
8) Newsgroups Line

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    61 messages were received to the Voting Address, of which:

    37 were valid Votes
     1 was a re-vote (voter updated his vote correctly)
     1 was a vote deemed invalid (voter re-voted correctly)
     2 were invalid votes
    20 were tests by the Votetaker

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Remove unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.regulation

      YES : 20 votes
       NO : 15 votes
ABSTAIN :   2 votes
    Total : 37 votes


YES beat NO by a majority of 5 votes. For a proposal to pass, there must
be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS.

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UKvote&lehun.clara.oc.ku        Alan LeHun              YES
bigfoot&davros.gro              Anthony R. Gold         YES
unrvote&southie.em.ku           Barry Salter            YES
brett&dimetrodon.demon.oc.ku    Brett Paul Dunbar       YES
clive&davros.gro                Clive Feather           YES
daviduri&bigfoot.moc            David Uri               YES
graham.drabble&lineone.ten      Graham Drabble          YES
usenet&deepsea.force9.oc.ku     Iain                    YES
pabooth&grumpy.oc.ku            Paul Booth              YES
paul&pcserv.demon.oc.ku         Paul Carpenter          YES
paul&cummins.ie.eu.gro          Paul Cummins            YES
pedt&dontspame.moc              Pedt                    YES
pete&fenelon.moc                Pete Fenelon            YES
peter.ramm&ntlworld.moc         Peter Ramm              YES
psmyth&ukf.ten                  Peter Smyth             YES
richard&highwayman.moc          Richard Clayton         YES
richard-vote&illuin.gro         Richard Letts           YES
roy&ellor.vispa.moc             Roy Ellor               YES
stuart&zedtoo.demon.oc.ku       Stuart Painting         YES
tfl&psp.oc.ku                   Thomas Lee              YES

andrew&hodgsonfamily.gro        Andrew Hodgson          NO
chl&clerew.man.ca.ku            Charles Lindsey         NO
chris&keristor.gro              Chris Croughton         NO
hyphen&hyphenologist.oc.ku      Dave Fawthrop           NO
brillig&dsl.pipex.moc           Dave Hillam             NO
requiem&freeuk.moc              Dave Johnson            NO
xunr&sarnie.gro.ku              Dave Mason              NO
dickg&dickalba.demon.oc.ku      DG                      NO
john&waterfoot.ten              John Bean               NO
{voter}&watman.clara.oc.ku      paul                    NO
{R}&semolina.gro                Richard Ashton          NO
roger&hayter.gro                Roger Hayter            NO
news&economic-truth.oc.ku       Tim Miller              NO
horrid.squeak&zetnet.oc.ku      Tony Anson              NO
tcnw61&tarrcity.demon.oc.ku     Wm                      NO

david.mayall&ukonline.oc.ku     Dave Mayall             ABSTAIN
kat&the-kat.gro                 kat                     ABSTAIN

harveytm&lineone.ten            Mike Harvey             INVALID
ebaybuyer&123mail.gro           H Lewis                 INVALID

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Votetakers Comments:

Further detailed checking of votes after the vote had closed revealed 
that the two votes marked 'invalid' in the list above had their source 
obscured by an anonymising web proxy and were therefore disallowed.

This has been explained to both voters in the hope that they will be 
able to cast a vote successfully in future ballots, should they wish to.

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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf
of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.

The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:


The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce.  Allegations of irregularity should be sent to

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PROPOSAL: Remove uk.net.regulation

RATIONALE: Remove uk.net.regulation

The group uk.net.regulation was formed in September 2001 to discuss the
regulatory framework in which the Internet operates within the UK.
Despite the events of a few days later and their effects on that
framework, the group has not served this end well, if at all.

Google Groups shows a total of 56 threads posted to the group. My
analysis of these is:

   On topic:         30
   Off topic:         8
   Trolls/flamewars: 14
   Creation:          2
   Dr Death:          1

Due to the way Google counts them, the 30 threads actually cover rather
less than that in the way of topics; I reckon there were actually only
20 separate discussions.

According to <http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/newsserver/hierarchy-stats/uk/>,
there were the following numbers of postings in 2003:
     January      2
     February    28
     March        3
     April        2
     May          7
     June         1
     July         7
     August      none
     September    3
     October      1
     November    none
     December    none

Google only has 4 of these 54 postings, and only one of those is - in my
opinion - on-topic.

My own archive only goes back to 1st October; it contains 6 messages, of
which 4 are spam, 1 is part of a troll war, and 1 I can't classify
(though Google doesn't have it, suggesting others think it is spam).

It's dead. Let's bury the corpse.



uk.net.regulation       Regulation of the Internet in the UK



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