05 Apr 2004: Remove uk.net.regulation
From: dmahon_vote_xunr@amigo.co.uk
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:17:56 +0100
Subject: Result: Remove uk.net.regulation FAILS 20:15
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.regulation,uk.net
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Summary: Remove uk.net.regulation
Remove unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.regulation FAILS 20:15
YES beat NO by a majority of 5 votes. For a proposal to pass, there must
be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS.
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 Sat, 27th March 2004.
Proponent: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@davros.org>
Votetaker: David Mahon <dmahon_vote_xunr@amigo.co.uk>
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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.net.regulation
uk.net
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The Results:
The results follow below in the following order:
1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period
2) Result
3) Individual Vote Details
4) Votetakers Comments
5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
6) Proposal
7) Rationale
8) Newsgroups Line
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SUMMARY OF MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE VOTING PERIOD
61 messages were received to the Voting Address, of which:
37 were valid Votes
1 was a re-vote (voter updated his vote correctly)
1 was a vote deemed invalid (voter re-voted correctly)
2 were invalid votes
20 were tests by the Votetaker
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RESULT:
Remove unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.regulation
YES : 20 votes
NO : 15 votes
ABSTAIN : 2 votes
Total : 37 votes
INVALID : 2
YES beat NO by a majority of 5 votes. For a proposal to pass, there must
be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS.
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INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS
UKvote&lehun.clara.oc.ku Alan LeHun YES
bigfoot&davros.gro Anthony R. Gold YES
unrvote&southie.em.ku Barry Salter YES
brett&dimetrodon.demon.oc.ku Brett Paul Dunbar YES
clive&davros.gro Clive Feather YES
daviduri&bigfoot.moc David Uri YES
graham.drabble&lineone.ten Graham Drabble YES
usenet&deepsea.force9.oc.ku Iain YES
pabooth&grumpy.oc.ku Paul Booth YES
paul&pcserv.demon.oc.ku Paul Carpenter YES
paul&cummins.ie.eu.gro Paul Cummins YES
pedt&dontspame.moc Pedt YES
pete&fenelon.moc Pete Fenelon YES
peter.ramm&ntlworld.moc Peter Ramm YES
psmyth&ukf.ten Peter Smyth YES
richard&highwayman.moc Richard Clayton YES
richard-vote&illuin.gro Richard Letts YES
roy&ellor.vispa.moc Roy Ellor YES
stuart&zedtoo.demon.oc.ku Stuart Painting YES
tfl&psp.oc.ku Thomas Lee YES
andrew&hodgsonfamily.gro Andrew Hodgson NO
chl&clerew.man.ca.ku Charles Lindsey NO
chris&keristor.gro Chris Croughton NO
hyphen&hyphenologist.oc.ku Dave Fawthrop NO
brillig&dsl.pipex.moc Dave Hillam NO
requiem&freeuk.moc Dave Johnson NO
xunr&sarnie.gro.ku Dave Mason NO
dickg&dickalba.demon.oc.ku DG NO
john&waterfoot.ten John Bean NO
{voter}&watman.clara.oc.ku paul NO
{R}&semolina.gro Richard Ashton NO
roger&hayter.gro Roger Hayter NO
news&economic-truth.oc.ku Tim Miller NO
horrid.squeak&zetnet.oc.ku Tony Anson NO
tcnw61&tarrcity.demon.oc.ku Wm NO
david.mayall&ukonline.oc.ku Dave Mayall ABSTAIN
kat&the-kat.gro kat ABSTAIN
harveytm&lineone.ten Mike Harvey INVALID
ebaybuyer&123mail.gro H Lewis INVALID
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Votetakers Comments:
Further detailed checking of votes after the vote had closed revealed
that the two votes marked 'invalid' in the list above had their source
obscured by an anonymising web proxy and were therefore disallowed.
This has been explained to both voters in the hope that they will be
able to cast a vote successfully in future ballots, should they wish to.
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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf
of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.
The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
<ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting>
The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to
control@usenet.org.uk
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PROPOSAL: Remove uk.net.regulation
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RATIONALE: Remove uk.net.regulation
The group uk.net.regulation was formed in September 2001 to discuss the
regulatory framework in which the Internet operates within the UK.
Despite the events of a few days later and their effects on that
framework, the group has not served this end well, if at all.
Google Groups shows a total of 56 threads posted to the group. My
analysis of these is:
On topic: 30
Off topic: 8
Trolls/flamewars: 14
Creation: 2
Dr Death: 1
Due to the way Google counts them, the 30 threads actually cover rather
less than that in the way of topics; I reckon there were actually only
20 separate discussions.
According to <http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/newsserver/hierarchy-stats/uk/>,
there were the following numbers of postings in 2003:
January 2
February 28
March 3
April 2
May 7
June 1
July 7
August none
September 3
October 1
November none
December none
Google only has 4 of these 54 postings, and only one of those is - in my
opinion - on-topic.
My own archive only goes back to 1st October; it contains 6 messages, of
which 4 are spam, 1 is part of a troll war, and 1 I can't classify
(though Google doesn't have it, suggesting others think it is spam).
It's dead. Let's bury the corpse.
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NEWSGROUPS LINE
uk.net.regulation Regulation of the Internet in the UK
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