07 Apr 2003: Create uk.media.broadband

From: Molly Mockford <umbvote@mockfords.clara.uk>
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 18:52:17 +0100
Subject: RESULT: Creation of uk.media.broadband PASSES 51:6
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.media.tv.sf.startrek,uk.media.tv.west-wing,uk.media.dvd,alt.internet.talk


RESULT: Creation of uk.media.broadband PASSES 51:6

SUMMARY: Yes beat No by 51 votes to 6 votes.  Since this exceeds the
required margin of 12 votes the proposal therefore PASSES.


Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 30th March 2003

Proponent: Paul Harper <paul@harper.net>
Votetaker: Molly Mockford <umbvote@mockfords.clara.uk>



The full results follow below in the following order:

1) Information on the ballot
2) Results
3) Individual Vote Details
4) Votetaker's Comments
5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
6) Rationale and Charter



The CFV closed at 23:59:59 GMT on 30th March 2003. The vote
was conducted under the Guidelines For Group Creation.

67 votes were received during the period of the vote, consisting of:

61 valid and counted votes
2 votes subsequently superseded by the voters
4 e-mails sent to the voting address



Question: Create uk.media.broadband? (Yes/No/Abstain)

Number of people voting  YES: 51
                          NO:  6
                     ABSTAIN:  4
Total of counted valid votes: 61 (see vote details)

               Not countable:  6 (see vote details)
       Total number of mails: 67

YES beat NO by 45 votes. Accordingly this proposal PASSES.



Mails containing valid votes and included in final result.

Name of Voter      Voter's e-mail address                 Vote

{R}                {R} % semolina gro                      Y
Adam D. Barratt    vote+umb+2003-03 % adam-barratt ku gro  Y
Alan LeHun         UKvote % lehun ! clara ku oc            Y
Alex Cook          Alex % drzoidberg ku oc                 Y
Alex Holden        votes % alexholden ku oc                Y
Ameet Shah         a ! shah % doc ! ic ku ca               Y
Andrew Cameron     tags % tags2k ku oc                     Y
Andrew Wright      andrew % stardock ! demon ku oc         Y
Andy MacDonald     andrew % insidersites ku oc             Y
Anthony Gold       bigfoot % davros gro                    Y
Barry Dorrans      barryd % idunno gro                     Y
Barry Salter       southpaw1805 % hotmail moc              Y
bradders           drlbradley % btopenworld moc            Y
Chris Croughton    chris % keristor gro                    Y
Christian Smith    christian % jasdigital moc              Y
Clive R Robertson  broadband % clive ku gro                Y
CRAIG RIDER        cdrider1 % hotmail moc                  Y
Dan Milburn        danmilburn % clara ku oc                Y
Dave Fawthrop      hyphen % hyphenologist ku oc            Y
Dave Mason         xumbvote % sarnie ku gro                Y
David Brain        news % davidbrain ku oc                 Y
David Dorward      david % us-lot gro                      Y
Geoff Wilson       geoff ! wilson % dsl ! pipex moc        Y
helenh             helenh % easynet ku oc                  Y
Iain Clark         iain % dragonhaven ! plus moc           Y
J. van der Knaap   knaapjvd % yahoo ku oc                  Y
James Davies       jawida ! money % btopenworld moc        Y
Jason Clark        jason % clarkhouse ku oc                Y
JBM                jpb8 % duke ude                         Y
Jo Ciampa          jo ! ciampa % blueyonder ku oc          Y
John Briggs        john ! briggs4 % ntlworld moc           Y
Kalorlo            kalorlo % email moc                     Y
kat                katnews % ntlworld moc                  Y
kqr                kqrq % freeuk moc                       Y
Lt. Cmdr. Jim      jim % us-lot gro                        Y
Mark Barltrop      news % tachyonuk moc                    Y
Mark Goodge        mark % good-stuff ku oc                 Y
Michael Greenhalgh michael ! greenhalgh % tripleb ku oc    Y
Mike Fleming       mike % tauzero ku oc                    Y
Mike Tullett       mtullett % ntlworld moc                 Y
Owain Kenway       s0091903 % sms ! ed ku ca               Y
Paul Ellis         paulellis % speed-mail ku oc            Y
Paul Harper        paul % harper ten                       Y
Paul Roe           paulroe660 % btinternet moc             Y
Pedt               netnews % pkuatb ten                    Y
Peter Duck         pduck % zetnet ku oc                    Y
Sarah Elton        sarah ! elton % st-annes ! ox ku ca     Y
Sieue              sieue % sieue moc                       Y
Steph Peters       urcs % sandbenders ! demon ku oc        Y
Tony Wright        tony ! wright % zen ku oc               Y
xSaBx              sarah % gubbins ten                     Y

Clive Feather      clive % davros gro                      N
Scott Taylor       taylorscott67 % yahoo ku oc             N
Shane Matthews     vote % gaelyn ten                       N
Stuart Millington  phupp % dsv1 ku oc                      N
thomas lee         tfl % psp ku oc                         N
Wm                 tcnw51 % tarrcity ! demon ku oc         N

Dave H             dmh % dmh ku gro                        A
Dave Mayall        dave % research-group ku oc             A
Graham Drabble     graham ! drabble % lineone ten          A
Jezza              jezza % hotwells ! freeserve ku oc      A

Total number of valid votes received and counted: 61

4 pieces of e-mail, including a ballot request sent to the wrong
address, were received at the voting address.
2 votes were superseded.

Under voting guidelines, individual voters may vote more than once
using the same voting name and address. Only the most recent vote is

Total number of mails: 67



In one place in the ballot paper when first issued, the placeholder
for the voting address remained instead of the address itself.  As
soon as my error was pointed out, I updated the ballot paper on the
UKVoting server, and e-mailed everyone who had requested a ballot
paper but had not yet voted.  There is no hint that anybody found
themselves unable to vote because of this error;  nevertheless, it
was negligence on my part, and I apologise for it.

Otherwise the vote was reasonably without incident.  One set of three
votes initially aroused concern, but the voters involved (one of whom
was a lurker who had never posted to Usenet) provided detailed and
helpful explanations of the circumstances and I have accepted all
three votes as valid.

Most voters provided an answer to the question about the From: line,
which was extremely helpful as it enabled me to validate a number of
votes without troubling the voters for further information.



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The increased use of broadband internet technology has made streamed and
downloaded programming available to a wide UK audience.

There is currently no UK-specific usenet forum for discussing the
content of these programmes, though a few programme-specific groups do
allow discussion of downloaded episodes. This group does not replace
these, but allows discussion of other material not permitted elsewhere.

On-topic content will be primarily discussion of the content of these
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Molly Mockford
Votetaker, uk.media.broadband creation vote

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