Path: sn-us!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!68.6.19.232.MISMATCH!west.cox.net!cox.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!easynet-quince!easynet.net!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!news.mcc.ac.uk!clerew!clw.cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: Molly Mockford Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.media.tv.sf.startrek,uk.media.tv.west-wing,uk.media.dvd,alt.internet.talk Subject: RESULT: Creation of uk.media.broadband PASSES 51:6 Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 18:52:17 +0100 Message-ID: Sender: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Approved: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Lines: 291 Xref: sn-us uk.net.news.announce:3184 uk.net.news.config:158484 uk.media.tv.sf.startrek:223886 uk.media.tv.west-wing:9096 uk.media.dvd:559476 alt.internet.talk:5561 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT: Creation of uk.media.broadband PASSES 51:6 SUMMARY: Yes beat No by 51 votes to 6 votes. Since this exceeds the required margin of 12 votes the proposal therefore PASSES. ====================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 30th March 2003 Proponent: Paul Harper Votetaker: Molly Mockford Distribution: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.media.tv.sf.startrek, uk.media.tv.west-wing,uk.media.dvd,alt.internet.talk ====================================================================== The full results follow below in the following order: 1) Information on the ballot 2) Results 3) Individual Vote Details 4) Votetaker's Comments 5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 6) Rationale and Charter ====================================================================== 1) INFORMATION ON THE BALLOT The CFV closed at 23:59:59 GMT on 30th March 2003. The vote was conducted under the Guidelines For Group Creation. 67 votes were received during the period of the vote, consisting of: 61 valid and counted votes 2 votes subsequently superseded by the voters 4 e-mails sent to the voting address ====================================================================== 2) RESULTS Question: Create uk.media.broadband? (Yes/No/Abstain) Number of people voting YES: 51 NO: 6 ABSTAIN: 4 Total of counted valid votes: 61 (see vote details) Not countable: 6 (see vote details) Total number of mails: 67 YES beat NO by 45 votes. Accordingly this proposal PASSES. ====================================================================== 3) INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS Mails containing valid votes and included in final result. Name of Voter Voter's e-mail address Vote {R} {R} % semolina gro Y Adam D. Barratt vote+umb+2003-03 % adam-barratt ku gro Y Alan LeHun UKvote % lehun ! clara ku oc Y Alex Cook Alex % drzoidberg ku oc Y Alex Holden votes % alexholden ku oc Y Ameet Shah a ! shah % doc ! ic ku ca Y Andrew Cameron tags % tags2k ku oc Y Andrew Wright andrew % stardock ! demon ku oc Y Andy MacDonald andrew % insidersites ku oc Y Anthony Gold bigfoot % davros gro Y Barry Dorrans barryd % idunno gro Y Barry Salter southpaw1805 % hotmail moc Y bradders drlbradley % btopenworld moc Y Chris Croughton chris % keristor gro Y Christian Smith christian % jasdigital moc Y Clive R Robertson broadband % clive ku gro Y CRAIG RIDER cdrider1 % hotmail moc Y Dan Milburn danmilburn % clara ku oc Y Dave Fawthrop hyphen % hyphenologist ku oc Y Dave Mason xumbvote % sarnie ku gro Y David Brain news % davidbrain ku oc Y David Dorward david % us-lot gro Y Geoff Wilson geoff ! wilson % dsl ! pipex moc Y helenh helenh % easynet ku oc Y Iain Clark iain % dragonhaven ! plus moc Y J. van der Knaap knaapjvd % yahoo ku oc Y James Davies jawida ! money % btopenworld moc Y Jason Clark jason % clarkhouse ku oc Y JBM jpb8 % duke ude Y Jo Ciampa jo ! ciampa % blueyonder ku oc Y John Briggs john ! briggs4 % ntlworld moc Y Kalorlo kalorlo % email moc Y kat katnews % ntlworld moc Y kqr kqrq % freeuk moc Y Lt. Cmdr. Jim jim % us-lot gro Y Mark Barltrop news % tachyonuk moc Y Mark Goodge mark % good-stuff ku oc Y Michael Greenhalgh michael ! greenhalgh % tripleb ku oc Y Mike Fleming mike % tauzero ku oc Y Mike Tullett mtullett % ntlworld moc Y Owain Kenway s0091903 % sms ! ed ku ca Y Paul Ellis paulellis % speed-mail ku oc Y Paul Harper paul % harper ten Y Paul Roe paulroe660 % btinternet moc Y Pedt netnews % pkuatb ten Y Peter Duck pduck % zetnet ku oc Y Sarah Elton sarah ! elton % st-annes ! ox ku ca Y Sieue sieue % sieue moc Y Steph Peters urcs % sandbenders ! demon ku oc Y Tony Wright tony ! wright % zen ku oc Y xSaBx sarah % gubbins ten Y Clive Feather clive % davros gro N Scott Taylor taylorscott67 % yahoo ku oc N Shane Matthews vote % gaelyn ten N Stuart Millington phupp % dsv1 ku oc N thomas lee tfl % psp ku oc N Wm tcnw51 % tarrcity ! demon ku oc N Dave H dmh % dmh ku gro A Dave Mayall dave % research-group ku oc A Graham Drabble graham ! drabble % lineone ten A Jezza jezza % hotwells ! freeserve ku oc A Total number of valid votes received and counted: 61 4 pieces of e-mail, including a ballot request sent to the wrong address, were received at the voting address. 2 votes were superseded. Under voting guidelines, individual voters may vote more than once using the same voting name and address. Only the most recent vote is counted. Total number of mails: 67 ====================================================================== 4) VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS In one place in the ballot paper when first issued, the placeholder for the voting address remained instead of the address itself. As soon as my error was pointed out, I updated the ballot paper on the UKVoting server, and e-mailed everyone who had requested a ballot paper but had not yet voted. There is no hint that anybody found themselves unable to vote because of this error; nevertheless, it was negligence on my part, and I apologise for it. Otherwise the vote was reasonably without incident. One set of three votes initially aroused concern, but the voters involved (one of whom was a lurker who had never posted to Usenet) provided detailed and helpful explanations of the circumstances and I have accepted all three votes as valid. Most voters provided an answer to the question about the From: line, which was extremely helpful as it enabled me to validate a number of votes without troubling the voters for further information. ====================================================================== 5) VOTING AND APPEAL GUIDELINES This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk ====================================================================== 6) RATIONALE AND CHARTER 6.1 RATIONALE The increased use of broadband internet technology has made streamed and downloaded programming available to a wide UK audience. There is currently no UK-specific usenet forum for discussing the content of these programmes, though a few programme-specific groups do allow discussion of downloaded episodes. This group does not replace these, but allows discussion of other material not permitted elsewhere. On-topic content will be primarily discussion of the content of these programmes, hence the "media" positioning in the hierarchy, but an important secondary topic will be the technology supporting the reception and playing of the content. The newsgroup will cover both live as well as recorded content for both UK and non-UK programming, whether Internet-specific, currently broadcast or archived. An appropriate consideration space policy in conjunction with a system of "tagging" subject matter will be specified for programmes that may at a later date be transmitted on analogue UK terrestrial television or radio for the first time. The initial distribution of this RFD has been limited to six newsgroups including those where the proponent is aware of interest in material delivered through broadband connections. Please feel free to point out the existence of this RFD to any other interested groups, but remember that for discussion to be taken into account within the RFD process, it has to take place in uk.net.news.config. ===================================================================== 6.2 CHARTER FOR UK.MEDIA.BROADBAND The newsgroup discusses the content of media programming available through the Internet to UK users. The scope of the newsgroup includes both live as well as recorded content for both UK and non-UK programming, whether Internet-specific, currently broadcast or archived. Also on-topic for this group is discussion of the technology and processes used to acquire and play the programming. The existence of this group shall not be taken as advocating piracy or illegal distribution of copyrighted material. Where a programme is likely at some future date to be transmitted on UK analogue terrestrial television or radio, consideration space (or "spoiler space") of at least 30 blank lines shall precede discussion of any programming content. This is to protect readers of the group who do not yet wish to see discussion of newer shows. Tags are elements of a message subject line that allow users of a newsgroup to automatically filter out topics that are of no interest to them. They are the first parts of a subject line, on the left-hand side, and are enclosed within square brackets. Appropriate tags, of a form generally recognised by users of the group shall be used where consensus warrants it. The tags shall contain an agreed identifier, all in upper case. For example: [24] or [ALIAS]. Advertising Advertising is forbidden. Binaries & Formatting Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where authentication is important and should be as short as possible. Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some common newsreaders comply with this, read . Crossposting Crossposting to groups with strict spoiler policies is forbidden due to the risk of charter breaches within those groups. In any event, crossposting shall be limited to one other relevant group. Warning Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their "postmaster" and/or Service Provider. End Charter - -- Molly Mockford Votetaker, uk.media.broadband creation vote -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBPpBpXGOfGXkh8vHZAQF/NgP9GQP3auqysV7nQnzykw0TXbSUPfJa5GpN LeoUya6N9YahjQ5SkKR9BCrkEh/IH856bNaiYkglSgFJY8eFxoryqfLEhU9/F3y5 YgBOKvXTFsv7bGWCZL8eMGta8waFh08MGBDcAQc6LgE3z5mTWcW/zfqKYUoXJaTo ln/j8k9iU/o= =Q3jz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----