11 Mar 2004: Create unmoderated group uk.net.providers.ntl
From: "Richard Ashton" <vote@vote.semolina.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:36:02 +0000
Subject: RESULT uk.net.providers.ntl passes 47:11
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.providers
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Summary: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.providers.ntl
Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.providers.ntl PASSES 47:11
YES beat NO by a majority of 36 votes. For group passage, there must
be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal PASSES.
(Please note that, due to the known ability of the "swen" virus to
harvest addresses from news postings, all email addresses in this
results posting, including the votetaker's and proponent's "from"
and "reply-to" addresses, are spamtrapped or munged. I regret the
necessity for this, but consider these circumstances sufficiently
exceptional to warrant breaking the usual rules)
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 13th February 2004.
Proponent: Mark Goodge <rfd (at) good-stuff.co.uk>
Votetaker: Richard Ashton <vote (at) vote.semolina.org>
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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.net.providers
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The Results:
The results follow below in the following order:
1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period
2) Result
3) Individual Vote Details
4) Votetakers Comments
5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
6) Rationale
7) Newsgroups Line
8) Charter
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SUMMARY OF MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE VOTING PERIOD
65 messages were received to the Voting Address, of which:
62 were valid Votes
1 was a vote deemed invalid
1 was a vote acknowledgement
1 was a test by the Votetaker
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RESULT:
Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.providers.ntl
YES : 47 votes
NO : 11 votes
ABSTAIN : 4 votes
Total : 62 votes
YES beat NO by a majority of 36 votes. For group passage, there must
be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal PASSES.
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INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS
Voted Yes - 47 votes
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Adam Price adam+usenet#pappnase#co#uk Yes
Alan Walker lord#khaos#ntlworld#com Yes
Alastair Mackintosh alastair_voting#hotmail#com Yes
Alex Holden alex#alexholden#co#uk Yes
Alex Mann alex#letmethink#co#uk Yes
Andrew Norman andrew#ajnorman#org Yes
Anthony R# Gold bigfoot#davros#org Yes
Barry Salter ntlisp#salterg#demon#co#uk Yes
Bob Eager rde#tavi#co#uk Yes
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk#dsl#co#uk Yes
Chris Croughton chris#keristor#org Yes
Chris Street c#street#ntlworld#com Yes
Darren J Longhorn darrenlonghorn#yahoo#com Yes
Dave Mason xukpntl#sarnie#org#uk Yes
Dave Millard dave#focus3#uk#com Yes
David Mahon dmahon_vote_xukpntl#amigo#co#uk Yes
David Uri daviduri#bigfoot#com Yes
Dominic Hargreaves dom-news#earth#li Yes
FatHippy xukpntl#fathippy#net Yes
Ganesh Sittampalam ganesh#earth#li Yes
Ian Clifton ian#jerry#chem#ox#ac#uk Yes
Jacob Nevins jacobn+unetuk#chiark#greenend#org#uk Yes
Jim Crowther jim#crowfam#org#uk Yes
John t_e_n_e_s_u#hotmail#com Yes
John Blundell zymurgy#ntlworld#com Yes
John Briggs john#briggs4#ntlworld#com Yes
Jonathan Larmour jifl#jifvik#org Yes
Julie Brandon julie#computergeeks#co#uk Yes
kat katnews#ntlworld#com Yes
Keith Lawrence adsl#perrydell#com Yes
Liz Carnell help#bullying#co#uk Yes
Mark Goodge rfd#good-stuff#co#uk Yes
Mark Williams mark#aziraphale#homeip#net Yes
Martin Cooper usenetspam#martinc#me#uk Yes
Matchstick matchstick#oofg#com Yes
Mike Fleming mike#tauzero#co#uk Yes
Nadeem rainbowmediagroup#yahoo#co#uk Yes
Neil Matthews neil#chaos#org#uk Yes
Paul Brewer paul#streetka#biz Yes
Paul Cummins {pc}#vlaad#co#uk Yes
Pekka P. Pirinen ppp#pirinen#demon#co#uk Yes
Robert Marshall robert#chezmarshall#freeserve#co#uk Yes
Rogerh rogerh#clara#co#uk Yes
Roy Ellor roy#ellor#vispa#com Yes
Steve Cotton steve#s#cotton#clara#co#uk Yes
Tim Lee Tim#datapath#co#uk Yes
Tim Miller tim#economic-truth#co#uk Yes
Voted No - 11 votes
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Dave Mayall dave#research-group#co#uk No
Iain Paton ukvoting#darkvoyage#org#uk No
Ian Dunbar ian_dunbar7#hotmail#com No
John Bean john#waterfoot#org No
Kevin Andreoli kevin#andreoli#co#uk No
Matt Holland matt#matt-holland#org No
Paul Giverin paul#giverin#co#uk No
Pete Fenelon pete#fenelon#com No
Peter Smyth psmyth#gmx#net No
Richard Clayton richard#highwayman#com No
Wm... tcnw41#tarrcity#demon#co#uk No
Abstained - 4 votes
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Barry Dorrans barryd#idunno#org ABSTAIN
NottGeek Jim nottgeek#jim#btopenworld#com ABSTAIN
Dave Johnson requiem#freeuk#com ABSTAIN
Malcolm Mladenovic mbm#tinc#org#uk ABSTAIN
Invalid - 1 vote
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Mike Harvey harveytm#lineone#net Yes
In email discussion the above failed to answer the votetakers question,
and given that there is no record of this individual existing when the
vote began, the votetaker has ruled the vote invalid.
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Votetakers Comments:
The only problem with this vote was what to do about the appeareance of
harveytm@lineone.net on or about 29/01/2004. However, as he failed to
reply to the votetaker's question, there was no alternative but to
declare the vote invalid.
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control (at) usenet.org.uk
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CHARTER: uk.net.providers.ntl
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RATIONALE: uk.net.providers.ntl
NTL is one of the largest ISPs in the UK, and one of only two to offer
broadband via cable. Although there are existing NTL support newsgroups,
these are only available on NTL's own news servers and are thus not
accessible either to non-customers or to customers of NTL who use a
non-NTL
news server.
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Newsgroup line: uk.net.providers.ntl Internet services provided by NTL
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CHARTER: uk.net.providers.ntl
This group is for the discussion of issues relating to the Internet
services provided by NTL. This includes services provided over any current
or future delivery methods, such as dial-up, cable or commercial broadband
services.
Discussion of non-Internet services, such as telephony and cable TV, is
off-topic except where directly relevant to the Internet service (for
example, a network outage affecting both telephone and Internet, or advice
on troubleshooting a combined TV/Internet set-top box).
This is not an advocacy group. Comparisons between NTL and other
providers,
or discussions as to whether NTL is better or worse than any other named
provider, belong in the generic uk.net.providers group.
Crossposting to newsgroups relating specifically to any ISP other than
NTL,
either in the uk.net.providers.* hierarchy or elsewhere, is forbidden.
This group has no official connection in any way with NTL. However, NTL
staff are encouraged to participate and provide information, service
updates, etc, just as they would in the internal NTL newsgroups.
Advertising
Advertising is forbidden, with this exception:
Private individuals wishing to buy, sell or trade items specifically
relevant to NTL's services may post an article containing the necessary
details or a link to a website containing the details.
For the purposes of this charter, announcements by NTL staff of changes to
the NTL product line, prices or services are not considered to be adverts.
Binaries & Formatting
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which
a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP)
may be used where authentication is important and should be as
short as possible.
Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some
common newsreaders comply with this, read
<http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
Warning. Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their
"postmaster" and/or Service Provider.
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