16 Jun 2001: uk.local.essx
From: Jim Hill <voteule@jhc.org.uk>
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:36:10 +0100
Subject: RESULTS: Rename uk.local.essex to uk.local.essx PASSES 41:12
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.essex,alt.uk.local.e-s-s-e-x
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Rename newsgroup uk.local.essex to uk.local.essx PASSES 41:12
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Voting opened Wednesday 23 May 2001
Voting closed Saturday 9 June 2001
Proponent: Chopsocky <mail@chopsocky.fsnet.co.uk>
Votetaker: Jim Hill <voteule@jhc.org.uk>
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DISTRIBUTION
These results have been posted to:
uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.essex,alt.uk.local.e-s-s-e-x
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RESULTS COUNTING
Valid votes received : 56
Total votes in favour : 41
Total votes against : 12
Total abstentions : 3
The proposal to rename uk.local.essex to uk.local.essx succeeds.
Votes received in favour (41) exceeded received votes against (12)
by more than the required minimum of twelve votes (41 - 12 = 29).
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THE RESULTS IN FULL [ A = ABSTAIN N = NO Y = YES ]
A Andy Mabbett Pigsonthewing Orguk Andy
A Mark Tyndall York Acuk Mrt102
A Robbie Arrakis Nu Robbie
N Alan Fleming Etrigan Org Af
N Brian {Hamilton Kelly} Dsl Couk Bhk
N Charles Bryant Chch Demoncouk Essx Vote Ch
N Edward King Ulape Orguk Eaking
N Ian Jackson Chiark Greenendorguk Ijackson
N James Farrar Yahoo Couk Londonstatto
N Pekka P. Pirinen Pirinen Demoncouk Ppp
N Peter Smyth Ukf Net Psmyth
N Richard Kettlewell Sfere Greenendorguk Richard+Voteule
N Steve Firth Firthcom Fsnetcouk Admin
N Sueb Hushmail Com Suebarc
N Tez Boyes Pierrot Couk Tez
Y Alan Sermons Brunel Acuk Ee96Ajs
Y Alex Holden Alexholden Orguk Votes
Y Alistair Gunn Yahoo Com Palmersperry
Y Astral alice Darkwave Orguk Alice
Y Carl Inglis Yoshiwara Demoncouk Uther
Y Caruthers Carstairs-McKraken Yahoo Couk Carstairsmckraken
Y Chopsocky Chopsocky Fsnetcouk News
Y E. J. Jewell Chyanpiran Demoncouk Ejewell
Y Eddie Bernard Ebernard Greatxscapenet Usenet
Y Graham Drabble Lineone Net Graham Drabble
Y Iain Deepsea Force9Couk Iain
Y Ian Kitching Anglia Acuk I M Kitching
Y Jack Howard Stormshadow Couk {J}
Y Jezza Hotwells Freeservecouk Jezza
Y John Greystrong Hgmp Mrcacuk Jgreystr
Y Jon Thomson Csv Warwickacuk Mawdl
Y Lowerwolf Lowerwolf Worldonlinecouk News
Y Mark Goodge Goodstuff Couk Mark
Y Martin Biddiscombe Priatel Globalnetcouk Martin
Y Mervyn Carter Qcolpm Demoncouk Mervyn
Y Mick Partis Ruralnet Orguk M Partis
Y Mj Ray Cloaked Freeservecouk Markj+Junk
Y Nikkiodo Energissquared Com Nicola Odonnell
Y Patrick Herring Dcs Shefacuk P Herring
Y Pete The Gardener Hotmail Com Pete_The_Gardener
Y Pete Birmo Net Peter (Registered symbol removed)
Y Peter Godfrey Eifl Orguk Petergodfrey
Y Peter Gradwell Gradwell Com Peter
Y Peter Munn Pearceneptune Demoncouk Pmunnsub
Y Philip Page Btinternet Com Philip J Page
Y Philip Powell Blencathra Orguk Philip
Y Richard Daniells Pncl Couk Richdan
Y Rob Linham Sjc Oxacuk Robert Linham
Y Robert Todd Ntlworld Com R Todd
Y Sarah Reeson Gubbins Net Sarah
Y Simon Byles Auri Demoncouk Simon
Y Thomas Lee Psp Couk Tfl
Y Tim Miller Economictruth Couk Tim
Y Tiny Btinternet Com Tclipper
Y Tony Darkstorm Couk Tony
Y Ttiger Lineone Net Ttiger
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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS:
One vote received in the form "I would like to vote that the name
changes from essex to essx" but was excluded because the voter failed
to respond to the votetaker or to a mailed ballot form. The vote
outcome is not affected.
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RATIONALE:
uk.local.essex is overrun with commercial pornographic spam caused by
the string "sex" in the county name. This has made the group
unusable. Use of the kill file and net copping the offenders has not
worked; there is always another spammer to take the place of the net
copped one and subject headers are changed or munged to avoid the kill
file. Moderation of uk.local.essex was considered, but there were no
volunteers for the moderation team. A straw poll was taken from the
contributors to uk.local.essex and alt.uk.local.e-s-s-e-x, and the
result was posted in Message-ID:
<Xns9072837BA88grahamdrabblelineone@127.0.0.1> All respondents read
alt.uk.local.e-s-s-e-x. The vote was split evenly between removing
uk.local.essex and renaming uk.local.essex.
An analysis of the traffic between 31st March and 10th April revealed the
following:
Posts
Sex spam: 111 (64%)
Off topic posts: 14 (8%)
Other on topic: 14 (8%)
Strawpoll discussion: 13 (8%)
Binaries: 11 (6%)
Other spam: 10 (6%)
Hence this proposal to rename uk.local.essex to uk.local.essx,
removing the 'sex' string and avoiding the porn spam but maintaining a
presence within the uk.* hierarchy.
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SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:
19 people contributed a total of 39 messages to the RFD. Of the 19, 9
were in favour of creating uk.local.essx and removing
uk.local.essex. No one was in favour of removing uk.local.essex only.
There was one objection, who later changed his mind, and 9 expressed
no opinion. It was suggested by 2 people to fast track uk.local.essx.
The fast-track failed due to Control receiving 4 objections. Following
this, and having studied the response to the failure, it was felt that
a vote should be held.
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NEWSGROUPS LINE:
uk.local.essx The county of Essex, England
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CHARTER:
This newsgroup is for the benefit of the county of Essex in England,
its residents and those who are interested in Essex.
A forum for requesting and disseminating information and views about
living in, visiting or being a descendant from Essex. Contributions
are welcome from people who live, work or study in the county, or have
an interest in the county.
The odd spelling of Essex is deliberate to prevent the sex spam picked
up by the string "sex" in uk.local.essex.
ADVERTISING
Advertising is forbidden, with these exceptions:
Suppliers of goods and services relevant to the county of Essex in the
UK may post an invitation to visit their web site or request
details. It should be of four lines or fewer and not posted more than
once every 3 months. The subject line should begin "ADVERT: ", except
for vacancy adverts, when it should begin "JOB: ".
CROSS-POSTING
Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more
than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be
geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of
the post (e.g. "moving house from Glasgow to Maldon").
Note that the advertising of widely-available goods or services is
*not* relevant in this context, and that most uk.local.* groups have
restrictions on advertising, or prohibit it. Cross-posted adverts,
where allowed, must meet the requirements of the charters of *all*
groups involved.
BINARIES & FORMATTING
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a
pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used
where authentication is important and should be as short as possible.
Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make your newsreader
comply with this, read <http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
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Jim Hill <voteule@jhc.org.uk>
UKVoting Votetaker
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