03 Apr 2001: Create newsgroup uk.local.cornwall


From: Jim Hill <vote-ulc@jhc.org.uk>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:13:36 +0100
Subject: RESULTS: New Newsgroup uk.local.cornwall PASSES 33:6
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.southwest,soc.culture.cornish,alt.languages.cornish

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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES

New Newsgroup uk.local.cornwall PASSES 33:6

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Voting opened Thursday 08 March 2001
Voting closed Sunday 18 March 2001 23:59:59 BST

Proponent: Chris Rickard <chrisr@post.com>
Votetaker: Jim Hill <vote-ulc@jhc.org.uk>

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DISTRIBUTION

These results have been posted to:

uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.southwest,
soc.culture.cornish,alt.languages.cornish

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RESULTS COUNTING

Valid votes received  : 43
Total votes in favour : 34
Total votes against   :  6
Total abstentions     :  3

The group creation proposal for uk.local.cornwall succeeds.

Votes received in favour (34) exceeded received votes against (6)
by more than the required minimum of twelve votes (34 - 6 = 28).

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THE RESULTS IN FULL

 N  {R} Semolina Org {R}
 Y  Andrew Hartley Eastupham Freeservecouk Andrew
 Y  Andrew Taylor Msn Com Andrewcrumplehorn
 Y  Andrew Wheatley Union Orgza Andrew Wheatley
 Y  Andy Mabbett Pigsonthewing Orguk Andy
 Y  Big Al - The Peoples Pal Yahoo Couk Alanmcwatters
 Y  Biggeordie Gmca Couk Geordie
 Y  Cathy Yahoo Com Cacoll
 N  Charles Ellson Ellson Demoncouk Charles
 Y  Chris r Post Com Chrisr
 Y  Clive Martin Cmartin Demoncouk Clive
 Y  Dave Hillam Hbarnet Freeservecouk Dave
 Y  David Painter Care4Free Net Dave Painter
 A  Eddie Bernard Ebernard Greatxscapenet Usenet
 Y  Frankie Roberto Lineone Net Frankie Roberto
 Y  Graham Nye Tyndale Demoncouk Graham
 Y  Graham Smith Lodeway Couk Gsmith
 Y  Guy Morgan Firstlightservices Couk Guy
 Y  Hugh Collins Corsh Demoncouk Hugh
 A  Jeffrey Goldberg Goldmark Org Jeffrey
 Y  Jezza Hotwells Freeservecouk Jezza
 Y  Jim Benton-Evans Bentonevans Demoncouk Jim
 Y  Jon Thomson Hotmail Com Edgeleypark
 N  Jonathan Evans Liv Acuk Evansjon
 Y  Kevin Andreoli Andreoli Freeservecouk Kevin
 Y  Lyn David Thomas Cibwr Freeservecouk Lyn
 Y  Marcus Houlden Nukesoft Couk UkVotes
 N  Mark Virgin Net Mark Seymour
 Y  Martin Biddiscombe Priatel Globalnetcouk Martin
 Y  Martin P Matthews Tacittraining Couk Martin
 N  Matt Wicken Mwicken Spamfreeservecouk Matt
 Y  Michael Parry Cavrdg Demoncouk Michael
 Y  Mike Fleming Tauzero Couk Mike
 Y  Nick Meredith Zetnet Couk Nick M
 Y  Nigel Moss Virgin Net Nigel Moss
 Y  Philip Powell Blencathra Orguk Philip
 A  Richard Kettlewell Sfere Greenendorguk Richard+Voteulc
 Y  Richard Open Acuk R J Yates
 Y  Robbie Ukvote Arrakisnu Robbie
 N  Shane Matthews Alaina Demoncouk Smatt
 Y  Sleepalot Carlisle98 Freeservecouk Sleepy
 Y  Steve Howarth Stevehowarth Fsnetcouk Mail
 Y  Thomas Lee Psp Couk Tfl

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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS:

An uneventful vote. Two ballots contained invalid addresses and one ballot
acknowledgment remained undeliverable for over a week.

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RATIONALE: uk.local.cornwall

There are many newsgroups in the uk.local.* hierarchy showing that there is
an obvious need for local UK specific content and following the creation of
uk.local.devon and uk.local.somerset it's perhaps fair that Cornwall be
given the same opportunity as an individual newsgroup.

Although there is a group (uk.local.southwest) that encompasses Cornwall and
there are other groups in different hierarchies (soc.culture.cornish,
alt.languages.cornish) there remains no single recognisable group within the
uk.local.* hierarchy.

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SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

There was a slight change applied to the wording of the pointer to the group
uk.local.southwest.adverts.

Finally there was a small pointer added to potential subscribers to note the
existence of uk.local.southwest.

It was sad to see such off-topic nonsense creep into what was supposed to be
(and indeed originally was) a sensible discussion, and I hope those that
were watching don't have the impression that everyone in Cornwall has that
attitude or acts in such a fashion. Personally I'd not quite expected that
kind of response although it was, for want of a better word, amazing to see
the discussion degrade so quickly fired by so few.

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NEWSGROUPS LINE:

uk.local.cornwall	The county of Cornwall, England

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CHARTER: uk.local.cornwall

The newsgroup is intended for discussion relating to the county of
Cornwall. A dedicated forum within the uk.local hierarchy easily
recognisable for discussion of information, news, views and other
such topics related to Cornwall.

Contributions are welcome from all provided the contribution bears
some relevance to Cornwall or to her people (e.g. people who live,
work or study in the county or have an interest in the county).

Potential subscribers should perhaps also note the existence of
uk.local.southwest which includes Cornwall.

Advertising

Advertising is strictly forbidden, with these exceptions:

Suppliers of goods and services relevant to group subject in the UK
may post an invitation to visit their web site or request details.
It should be of four lines or fewer and not posted more than once
every 3 months.  The subject line should begin "ADVERT: ", except
for vacancy adverts, when it should begin "JOB: ".

All other advertising may be posted in the specially created advert
group within the hierarchy uk.local.southwest.adverts.

Crossposting

Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more
than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be
geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject
of the post (e.g. "a proposed house move from Thurso to Truro").

Note that the advertising of widely-available goods or services is
*not* relevant in this context, and that most uk.local.* groups have
restrictions on advertising, or prohibit it. Cross-posted adverts,
where allowed, must meet the requirements of the charters of *all*
groups involved.

Binaries & Formatting

Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden.
Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be
posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where
authentication is important and should be as short as possible.

Posts must be readable as plaintext. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted
messages are prohibited. To see how to make your newsreader comply with
this, read <http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.

Warning

Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their
"postmaster" and/or Service Provider.

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- -- 
Jim Hill <vote-ulc@jhc.org.uk>
UKVoting Votetaker

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