24 Feb 2003: uk.sport.motorsport.formula1
From: Jim Hill <usmf1@jhc.org.uk>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:13:06 +0000
Subject: RESULT: create newsgroup uk.sport.motorsport.formula1
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.sport.motorsport
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Creation of newsgroup uk.sport.motorsport.formula1
Condorcet Option A wins: Create newsgroup without crossposting clause
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Voting opened: Friday 17 January 2003
Voting closed: Sunday 9th February 2003
Proponent: Richard Ashton "{R}" <formula1@semolina.org>
Votetaker: Jim Hill <usmf1@jhc.org.uk>
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DISTRIBUTION
These results have been posted to:
uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.sport.motorsport
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RESULTS IN DETAIL
Voters were asked to rank four options:
Option A: Create newsgroup without crossposting clause
Option B: Create newsgroup with crossposting clause
Option C: Status quo (do not create newsgroup)
Option D: ROD (Re-open discussion)
A total of 80 valid votes were cast plus 2 abstentions.
STAGE ONE:
Option A was preferred to Status Quo by 20 votes (49-29)
Option B was preferred to Status Quo by 21 votes (50-29)
Option D was preferred to Status Quo by 12 votes (43-31)
All options were preferred to status quo (do not create
newsgroup) by the required 12 votes so all options
proceed to stage two.
STAGE TWO:
Table 1 - Absolute Figures (Raw Preferences Grid)
A B C D
A [ - ] [ 44] [ 49] [ 60] create without xpost clause
B [ 22] [ - ] [ 50] [ 56] create with xpost clause
C [ 29] [ 29] [ - ] [ 31] status quo
D [ 15] [ 19] [ 43] [ - ] re-open discussion
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which
were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row
to the option appropriate to the number's column. For example,
49 voters preferred option A to option C and 29 voters
preferred option C to option A.
Table 2 - Relative Figures (Opposite Comparison Grid)
A B C D
A [ - ] [ 22] [ 20] [ 45] create without xpost clause
B [-22] [ - ] [ 21] [ 37] create with xpost clause
C [-20] [-21] [ - ] [-12] status quo
D [-45] [-37] [ 12] [ - ] re-open discussion
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which
were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row
to the option appropriate to the number's column less the
number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named
in the number's column to the option appropriate to the
number's row. For example, 22 more people preferred Option A
to Option B than preferred B to A, and 45 more people preferred
Option A to Option D than preferred D to A.
Condorcet Result
The winning option in the absolute table is that where all
the numbers in its row are higher than the number in the
equivalent position in its column.
The winning option in the relative table is that which has
all positive numbers in its row and all negative numbers in
its column.
Therefore, the Condorcet winner is Option A.
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VOTER LISTING
(a = abstain, 1 - 4 = preference order, 0 = no preference)
A B C D
1 1 3 2 Alan Fleming - Org Af Etrigan
1 2 4 3 Alan Smithee - Com Usenet Jxan
1 2 0 0 Alex Holden - Couk Votes Alex-Holden
4 3 1 2 Andrew Wheatley - Orgza Andrew Wheatley Union
3 4 1 2 Anthony R. Gold - Couk Notformail Ahjg
1 2 4 3 Bob Scott - Couk Bob Bobandaileen
2 1 4 3 Dave - Demoncouk Dave Community-Spirit
2 1 4 3 Dave Mason - Orguk Usmf1 Sarnie
2 2 1 3 Dave Mayall - Couk Dave Research-Group
1 2 4 3 Dave Millard - Ukcom Dave Focus3
2 3 1 4 David Betts - Com Dabetts Ntlworld
1 2 4 3 David Briggs - Net Brigfamily Softhome
a a a a David Buttery - Couk Gplscrapyard Yahoo
1 2 4 3 David Mahon - Couk Dmahon_Vote_Usmf1 Amigo
3 4 1 2 David NLY - Couk Bitchplunge Blueyonder
1 2 4 3 David Uri - Com Davidurivest Bigfoot
3 4 1 2 Denis McMahon - Org Sined Davros
2 1 3 4 Derek Turner - Net Frderek Cesmail
2 1 4 3 Dick Gaughan - Demoncouk Dickg Dickalba
4 4 1 4 Dillon Pyron - Rrcom Dmpyron Austin
2 4 1 3 Don Aitken - Com Donaitken Freeuk
1 2 4 3 Geoff Berrow - Couk F1_Bl Ckdog
2 1 4 3 George Sablan - Fsnetcouk Levetis Sablan
1 2 0 3 Gerbil - Steveydemoncouk Stevey Stevey
1 1 4 3 Guy Morgan - Couk Guy First-Light-Services
2 3 1 4 HooDooWitch - Couk Anyone Hindcottage
0 0 1 0 Huge - Hugeorguk Huge Huge
3 4 1 2 Iain Rae - Org Iainr Zathras
2 3 1 4 JBM - Eduinvalid Jpb8 Duke
4 3 1 2 Jim Riley - Com Jimrtex Pipeline
2 1 4 3 John Bean - Net Waterfoot Spamcop
3 1 4 2 John Briggs - Com John Briggs4 Ntlworld
0 0 1 2 Jon Thomson - Warwickacuk Mawdl Csv
1 2 4 3 Kim Andrews - Couk Kim Foca
1 2 1 3 Lt. Cmdr. Jim - Org Jim Us-Lot
3 3 1 2 Mark Coxley - Com Mark Xcski
0 0 1 0 Martin Evans - Pipexcom Mcenews Dial
1 2 3 4 Mike Bristow - Com Mike Urgle
1 2 4 3 Mike Fleming - Couk Mike Tauzero
2 1 4 4 Mike G - Couk Mgibbs Clara
2 1 4 3 Mike Henry - Demoncouk {$Usenet$} Mrtickle
2 1 4 3 Mike Swift - Couk Mike Swift Yeton
1 2 4 3 Neil Padgen - Bbccouk Neil Padgen Mon
1 2 4 3 No Jobs - Demoncouk News Pondview
1 1 1 1 Paul Cummins - Ieeuorg Paul Cummins
1 2 3 3 Paul Dawson - Demoncouk Paul00 Agamenon
2 1 4 3 Paul Giverin - Couk Paul Giverin
4 3 1 2 Paul Harman - Net Junk Doctorwhowebguide
1 4 2 3 Paul Harper - Net Paul Harper
2 1 4 3 Paul Martin - Oxfordacuk Paul Martin Wadham
2 4 1 3 Paul-B - Biz Paul Streetka
2 3 1 4 Pete Fenelon - Com Pete Fenelon
2 3 1 4 Peter Smyth - Net Psmyth Ukf
2 3 1 4 Phil Newnham - Com Pnewnham Yahoo
a a a a Philip Powell - Orguk Philip Blencathra
3 4 1 2 Rachael Nex - Com Rachaelnex Ntlworld
1 3 4 2 Rob Poole - Acuk R H Poole Aston
1 2 4 3 Roy Stilling - Orguk Spamtrap Kalevala
2 4 1 3 Rt. Hon. Lt. Smurfy Esq. - Netau Wwenut Bigpond
0 0 1 0 Sandy Morton - Fsnetcouk Atm Sandymillport
1 2 4 3 Shane Matthews - Com Usenet Cluelessweasels
3 1 2 4 Steph - Couk Steph Sbjconsultants
4 3 2 1 Steph Peters - Demoncouk Urcs Sandbenders
1 1 0 0 Stephen Gower - Oxfordacuk Stephen Gower Wolfson
1 2 4 3 Steve Firth - Couk Vote Malloc
2 1 0 3 Stuart Millington - Couk News Dsv1
1 3 4 2 Thomas Lee - Couk Tfl Psp
1 1 4 4 Tim Emanuel - Orguk Tim Cantona
1 1 3 2 Tony Towers - Tele2Couk Tony Cats
4 1 3 2 Tony Wright - Couk Tony Wright Zen
1 2 4 3 Zonky - Net Zonky Dialup-Web
1 2 4 3 fred - Demoncouk Fred Fredc
1 2 4 3 gizbon - Couk Gizbon Higs
3 4 1 2 james long - Orguk Jlong1 Yahoo
2 1 4 3 kqr - Com Kqrq Freeuk
1 2 4 3 lansbury - Net Lansbury Spamcop
2 1 4 3 laz (lazarus) - Couk Lazarus Clara
1 1 4 3 paul - Claracouk {Voter} Watman
3 4 1 2 spider - Ca Dipseydoodle Shaw
1 2 4 3 stuart graham - Com Stuartg Ntlworld
1 2 4 3 xSaBx - Net Sarah Gubbins
2 1 4 3 {R} - Org {R} Semolina
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PARTICULARS OF THE VOTE
A total of 95 submissions were received by the voting system:
1 vote superceded
1 vote with invalid preferences (revoted)
2 votes with missing Name field (both revoted)
7 votes from incorrect addresses (all revoted)
1 ukvoting autoresponder loop (see votetaker's comments)
1 disallowed vote (see votetaker's comments)
82 valid votes counted
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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS
Results delay
Please accept my apologies for the delay in compiling and
issuing these results. Real life intruded unavoidably.
Incorrect CFV
The first cfv issued lacked Expiry and Reply-To headers. The
absence of the latter caught out quite a few voters, causing
them to request a ballot paper from the votetaker instead of
from the ukvoting autoresponder. Both omissions were due to
the mail2news gateway being used and were corrected by Control
in time for the second cfv. Apologies to those inconvenienced.
Incorrect ballot papers
The first four ballot requests resulted in blank ballot papers
because I hadn't updated the ukvoting autoresponder correctly.
All four subsequently obtained valid ballot papers.
Reposted cfv
Four days after the cfv was posted it was re-posted to the
newsgroup rec.autos.sport.f1 which was not included in the
original distribution. There was no measurable impact on
voting patterns.
Autoresponder loop
An unusually formatted ballot request delayed the receipt of
a ballot paper for one voter and resulted in the autoresponder
sending itself an invalid vote. The autoresponder was modified
immediately to prevent that happening again.
Disallowed vote
3 4 2 1 Michael T Craig - Com Michael_T_Craig Hotmail
This vote was anonymously forwarded and the voter has no
known Usenet presence or voting history. The voter declined
to assist the votetaker to validate the vote.
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RATIONALE
This RFD had an unfortunate start. However, amid the noise there was
sufficient signal to demonstrate that a group had a good chance of
being created.
This group is intended for armchair enthusiasts of Formula 1 as
broadcast currently on UK terrestrial television.
The formation of the newsgroup is proposed in order to give Formula 1
supporters in the UK, and those with a UK perspective on Formula 1,
somewhere to discuss issues concerning, and topics arising from, the
sport.
Having reread the "debate" with "people" who subscribe to
rec.autos.sport.f1, I have decided that a crossposting ban should be
included in the RFD, and that contrary to my previous statements
crossposting this RFD to rec.autos.sport.f1 would be unnecessarily
inflammatory.
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NEWSGROUPS LINE
uk.sport.motorsport.formula1 Formula 1 motorsport and the UK
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CHARTER
The group may discuss all issues, events and incidents featuring
current, historical and future competitors of the FIA Formula One
World Championship.
The group may also discuss all issues concerning the entry,
participation and withdrawal of individual teams, engine suppliers,
sponsors, type suppliers and equipment and personnel.
Including events and incidents concerning Formula 1 drivers, support
drivers, team personnel, FIA personnel and similar subjects, UK TV
presenters, UK TV coverage, and any future changes to UK TV coverage
by any TV network may also be discussed.
ADVERTISING
Advertising is forbidden
BINARIES & FORMATTING
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a
pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used
where authentication is important and should be as short as possible.
Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted
messages are prohibited. To see how to make some common newsreaders
comply with this, read <http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
WARNING
Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their
"postmaster" and/or Service Provider.
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BALLOT FORM (invalidated copy for reference only)
Title of CFV - Create newsgroup uk.sport.motorsport.formula1
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, Sunday 9th February 2003.
For voting questions only contact the primary votetaker:
Jim Hill <usmf1@jhc.org.uk>
In the event of emergency only, contact the secondary
votetaker: Mark Goodge <usmf1@voting.good-stuff.co.uk>
For questions about the proposed newsgroup contact the proponent:
Richard Ashton "{R}" <formula1@semolina.org>
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VOTING INSTRUCTIONS
These instructions are repeated from the Call For Votes
(CFV) document for your convenience.
Name and Address:
You must enter either your normal Usenet name or your real
name so that you can be identified in the published vote
results. If you do not, your vote will not be counted.
Your vote acknowledgement will be sent to the address from
which you requested this ballot paper. By default, you will
also be identified in the official results by that same
address. Optionally, if you prefer to be identified in the
results by your normal Usenet address, please enter it
where prompted.
How to vote:
The ballot consists of multiple options which will be
counted under the Condorcet system.
To vote, enter '1' against your favourite option, '2'
against your second favourite option, and so on.
You may rank options the same if you have no preference
between them and you may leave options unmarked but are
requested not to do so. Unmarked options will be assumed
to be ranked lower than all marked options.
To abstain, enter 'A' against all the options.
Voting Address:
After registering your preferences, send your ballot
paper to <usmf1@vote.ukvoting.org.uk>. A normal reply
to the ballot paper should suffice but check the
address carefully before sending. The following url
also provides the correct voting address:
<URL:mailto:usmf1@vote.ukvoting.org.uk>
You should receive a vote acknowledgment within three
days.
If you decide subsequently to withdraw your vote, you
may do so by entering the word 'CANCEL' in the normal
Usenet name field, leaving all other options blank.
You should receive an acknowledgement within three
days that your prior vote will not be included in the
official results.
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Ballot ID: <invalid>
Enter your normal Usenet name between the square brackets:
Name: [ ]
You must complete the above
for your vote to be valid
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Optionally, enter your normal usenet e-mail address
between the square brackets if you prefer that to be
recorded in the vote results:
Address: [ ]
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Vote: Create newsgroup uk.sport.motorsport.formula1
Rank these options in order of preference - 1,2,3,4 or A
to abstain - between the square brackets:
[ ] Option A: Create newsgroup without crossposting clause
[ ] Option B: Create newsgroup with crossposting clause
[ ] Option C: Status quo (do not create newsgroup)
[ ] Option D: ROD (Re-open discussion)
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UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of
the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.
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regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
<ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting>
The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted
to uk.net.news.announce.
Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.
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Jim Hill <usmf1@jhc.org.uk>
UKVoting Votetaker
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