16 Jun 1999: uk.politics.misc charter change
From: r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk (robbie irvine)
Date: 16 Jun 1999 00:19:57 +0100
Subject: RESULT - uk.politics.misc charter change vote - Status Quo wins
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce,uk.politics.misc
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Summary: uk.politics.misc charter change vote - Status Quo wins
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Voting closed at Wed , 2 June 1999 23:59:59 GMT
Proponent: 666@hack.powernet.co.uk Simon Gardner
Votetaker: r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk Robbie Irvine
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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.politics.misc
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The Results:
The results follow below in the following order:
1) Result
2) Particulars of the Vote
3) Votetakers comments
4) Voting and Appeal guidelines
5) Rationale & Charter
1) Result
The three options of the vote were:
Adoption of New Charter (A)
Status Quo (SQ) charter remains unchanged
Re Open Discussion (ROD) discussion reopens
STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo:
Part 1: preference for adoption of new charter over Status Quo
YES = 5
NO = 30
ABSTAIN (equal preference) = 3
Adoption of new charter does not get at least 12 more preferences over
SQ than under it so fails at stage one.
Part 2: preference for Re-Open Discussion over Status Quo
YES = 10
NO = 25
ABSTAIN (equal preference) = 3
Re-opening discussion does not get at least 12 more preferences over SQ
than under it so fails at stage one.
Neither adopting the changed charter or re-opening discussion got more
votes than SQ by the required +12 so the Vote fails at stage one.
RAW PREFERENCES GRID
CH SQ ROD
Change Charter: [n/a] [ 5] [ 3]
Status Quo: [ 30] [n/a] [ 25]
Re-Open Discussion: [ 31] [ 10] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 3 votes preferred
option one (change the charter) to re-opening the discussion while 31
votes preferred reopening the discussion to option one (change the
charter).
However, as none of the options beat Status Quo by twelve or more
preferences, the Condorcet count is irrelevant and Status Quo prevails.
2)Particulars of the vote
Names, E-mail Addresses and Voter
Your normal usenet name: Your email address: voter
{R} {R}[a]sunshine%tm 1
Alan Fleming af[a]contractucok 2
Alex Dawson alex%dawson[a]uea%a-uk-uni 3
Alex Ray alex%ray[a]ukmedics%ocm 4
Andrew Gierth andrew[a]erlenstar%ucd 5
Andy Mabbett andy[a]pigsonthewing%ucd 6
Anton Rimner anton[a]handbooksucok 7
Bill Davies billyboy[a]gto%net%om 8
Brett Paul Dunbar brett[a]dimetrodon%ucd 9
Charles Lindsey chl[a]clw%cs%man%a-uk-uni 10
Christopher Dearlove chris[a]mnemosyne%ucd 11
Dab cheese[a]nildramucok 12
Dave Mayall david%mayall[a]ukonlineucok 13
David Cantrell NukeEmUp[a]ThePentagon%ocm 14
David Damerell damerell[a]chiark%greenend%o%uk 15
Edward King eaking[a]ulape%ucd 16
Ernest Vine vine[a]conwil%free-onlineucok 17
Fenris Wolf Fenris[a]reality8%ucd 18
Iain Bowen alaric[a]harlech%ucd 19
Ian Jackson ijackson[a]chiark%greenend%o%uk 20
James Coupe james[a]obeah%ucd 21
Jezza jezza[a]hotwells%freeserveucok 22
John ffitch jpff[a]maths%bath%a-uk-uni 23
Lyn David Thomas lyn[a]stuffing%ucd 24
Malcolm Mladenovic mbm[a]acm%o 25
Marcus Houlden upm-vote[a]flimflam%ucd 26
Mike Henry mike[a]tw2%ocm 27
neil p chue hong npch[a]tardis%ed%a-uk-uni 28
Paul Bolchover pb10003[a]cus%cam%a-uk-uni 29
Pekka P% Pirinen ppp[a]pirinen%ucd 30
Peter Corlett abuse[a]verrine%ucd 31
Remy Horton remy[a]broadway%cix 32
Sam Blackburn blackburn[a]nym%alias%net 33
Simon Gardner 666[a]hack%powernetucok 34
simon gray simon[a]star-one%o%uk 35
Thomas Lee tfl[a]pspucok 36
Tobias Erle vote-uk[a]kholdan%snafu%de 37
Tony Towers tony[a]fishblanket%ucd 38
Voter and Vote
Re-Open Discussion----\
Status Quo-----\ \
Adopt---\ \ \
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voter A SQ ROD
1 3 1 2
2 3 1 2
3 3 1 2
4 2 1 1
5 2 3 1
6 1 2
7 1
8 1
9 3 1 2
10 3 2 1
11 3 1 2
12 1
13 2 1 1
14 3 1 2
15 3 2 1
16 3 2 1
17 1 2
18 1 3 2
19 3 2 1
20 3 1 2
21 3 1 2
22 3 1 2
23 3 1 2
24 1
25 1 2
26 2 3 1
27 1 2
28 3 2 1
29 3 1 2
30 3 1 2
31 1 2
32 1 2
33 3 1 2
34 1
35
36 3 1 2
37 1 2 3
38 3 1 2
3) Votetakers Comments
First Apologies for the time taken to count the vote, I cracked the
back quarter off of one of my teeth and found concentrating for more
than about 10 minutes difficult.
As usual yet another simple vote with the exception that it
had to be counted by Condorcet. In this votetakers opinion if this
voting method becomes the norm (as it appears to be going the way of)
then a simpler method for counting and displaying the results has to
be found. It takes a while for some UKVoting members to get their
heads round it so god help lay people.
Again another person voted from an nym account. What is an nym account I
hear you ask
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The nym.alias.net server allows you to send and receive E-mail
pseudonymously through a username of your choice on nym.alias.net. If,
for instance, you choose username <yournym@nym.alias.net>, you will be
able to send and receive E-mail at that address, and even get
fingered at that address.
The system is designed to prevent anyone, even the administrators of
nym.alias.net, from finding out the real person behind any mail alias.
If you use this service properly, an adversary will have to compromise
multiple remailers operated by different people in order to find out
your real identity.
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This of course makes any verification that someone isn't multiple voting
impossible, and in this votetakers opinion votes from this source should
not be allowed.
4) Voting and Appeal guidelines
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFV's
in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are
posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the
following URL:
ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting
The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted
to uk.net.news.announce.
Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.
5) Rationale & Charter
Charter Change for uk.politics.misc
Newsgroups Line:
uk.politics.misc General discussion with some politics thrown in
CHARTER: uk.politics.misc.
uk.politics.misc is a group aimed at wide ranging discussion about,
well, anything at all really. Try to keep it vaguely politics-ish.
Cross posting:
is tremendous fun.
Advertising:
Is a bit of a pain, man.
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Robbie Irvine r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk
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