04 Jul 2001: Creation of uk.local.peterborough
From: "Alex Holden" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:15:52 +0100
Subject: RESULT: uk.local.peterborough PASSES 16:2
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
PROPOSAL - Create newsgroup uk.local.peterborough PASSES 16:2
Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 25th June 2001.
Proponent: "Dave Potato" <email@example.com>
Votetaker: "Alex Holden" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.local.east-anglia,
The results follow below in the following order:
2) Voting Details
3) Votetakers Comments
4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
5) Rationale, Summary of Discussion & Proposed Charter
PROPOSAL - Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.local.peterborough
YES : 16 votes
NO : 2 votes
ABSTAIN : 4 votes
Total : 22 votes
YES beat NO by a majority of 14 votes. For passage, there must be 12
more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, this proposal PASSES.
Valid votes received and counted:
Y=Yes, N=No, A=Abstain
Name Address Vote
Alex Dawson alex#dawson/uea#ca#ku N
Andy Mabbett andy/pigsonthewing#ogr#ku Y
Barry Salter ukvotes/salterg#demon#oc#ku Y
Ben Sneddon snedds/BTinternet#mco Y
Bryan Anderson bryananderson/btconnect#mco Y
Dave Potato potato/neologic#demon#oc#ku Y
Dave Roberts dave/studio-33#oc#ku Y
Eddie Bernard usenet/ebernard#greatxscape#ten A
Jon Thomson mawdl/csv#warwick#ca#ku Y
Michael Parry michael/cavrdg#demon#oc#ku Y
Mike Pitt mikepitt/slimy#greenend#ogr#ku A
MJ Ray markj+vote/cloaked#freeserve#oc#ku N
Nick nick/upsonuk#mco Y
Nigel Ashton nigel/nigelashton#demon#oc#ku Y
Paul Graves paul/graves98#freeserve#oc#ku Y
Peter Smyth psmyth/ukf#ten Y
Philip Powell philip/blencathra#ogr#ku A
Richard Kettlewell richard+pbolv/sfere#greenend#ogr#ku A
Robert E A Harvey bobharvey/lineone#ten Y
Simon Coombs simon/nenevr#demon#oc#ku Y
Susan Ashton susan/ashton#demon#oc#ku Y
Trevor Coote croote/totalise#oc#ku Y
Votes not counted:
Name Address Reason
derrick mulvana derrick/nnevall#demon#oc#ku Ack bounce
oldmolly oldmolly/ntlworld#mco No ballot paper
Fresh CFV sent
This has been a very quiet vote. Votes which I have sadly had to
reject have been listed. One voter's vote was originally rejected but
was corrected and therefore has been included in the final results.
VOTING AND APPEAL GUIDELINES:
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party members of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on
behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.
The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are
posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the
The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted
to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent
RATIONALE, SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND PROPOSED CHARTER:
Although there are groups (uk.local.midlands and uk.local.east-anglia)
that encompass Peterborough, Peterborough's geographical location
makes it difficult to determine which is the most appropriate. There
remains no single recognisable group within the uk.local.* hierarchy.
(Peterborough lies mid-way between the East Anglian coast and the
Midlands. Historically, as the Soke of Peterborough, it did not lie
within any county.)
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION
The initial RFD was submitted on 9 May 2001. 10 people contributed to
a total of 17 posts. Questions were raised about Peterborough's
geographical location, and suggestions were made on how to improve the
wording in the charter.
A second RFD was submitted on 14 May, containing a clearer charter and
an expanded rationale to explain Peterborough's geographical
position. A large discussion soon developed, consisting of 14 people
and 46 posts; however it was mostly centred on whether MIME should be
allowed on Usenet, and whether or not "plaintext" is a real word,
rather than uk.local.peterborough per se.
The third RFD, submitted on 17 May, did not draw any discussion. The
only amendment was to replace the word "plaintext" with the words
uk.local.peterborough is for the discussion of issues relating to
Peterborough, England. Contributions are welcome from people who:
live, study, or work in; have an interest in the culture, history and
attractions of; or plan to visit the City.
Contributions are also welcome from those interested in neighboring
towns and cities in the Peterborough area, where no other local group
Advertising is strictly forbidden, with these exceptions:
Suppliers of goods and services relevant to Peterborough may post an
invitation to visit their web site or request details. It should be
of four lines or fewer and not posted more than once every 3 months.
The subject line should begin "ADVERT: ", except for vacancy adverts,
when it should begin "JOB: ".
Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more
than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be
geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of
the post (e.g. "a proposed house move from Peebles to Peterborough").
Note that the advertising of widely-available goods or services is
*not* relevant in this context, and that most uk.local.* groups have
restrictions on advertising, or prohibit it. Cross-posted adverts,
where allowed, must meet the requirements of the charters of *all*
Binaries & Formatting
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a
pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be
used where appropriate.
Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make your newsreader
comply with this, read <http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their
"postmaster" and/or Service Provider.
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