From: "Alex Holden" Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.midlands,uk.local.east-anglia Subject: RESULT: uk.local.peterborough PASSES 16:2 Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:15:52 +0100 Sender: Iain Bowen as Control Approved: Iain Bowen as Control Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: harlech.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: harlech.demon.co.uk:158.152.39.156 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 994277864 nnrp-10:22981 NO-IDENT harlech.demon.co.uk:158.152.39.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net Lines: 219 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ======================================================================== RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: PROPOSAL - Create newsgroup uk.local.peterborough PASSES 16:2 ======================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 25th June 2001. Proponent: "Dave Potato" Votetaker: "Alex Holden" ======================================================================== Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.local.east-anglia, uk.local.midlands ======================================================================== The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Voting Details 3) Votetakers Comments 4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 5) Rationale, Summary of Discussion & Proposed Charter ======================================================================== RESULTS: PROPOSAL - Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.local.peterborough YES : 16 votes NO : 2 votes ABSTAIN : 4 votes Total : 22 votes YES beat NO by a majority of 14 votes. For passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, this proposal PASSES. ======================================================================== VOTING DETAILS: Valid votes received and counted: Y=Yes, N=No, A=Abstain Name Address Vote Alex Dawson alex#dawson/uea#ca#ku N Andy Mabbett andy/pigsonthewing#ogr#ku Y Barry Salter ukvotes/salterg#demon#oc#ku Y Ben Sneddon snedds/BTinternet#mco Y Bryan Anderson bryananderson/btconnect#mco Y Dave Potato potato/neologic#demon#oc#ku Y Dave Roberts dave/studio-33#oc#ku Y Eddie Bernard usenet/ebernard#greatxscape#ten A Jon Thomson mawdl/csv#warwick#ca#ku Y Michael Parry michael/cavrdg#demon#oc#ku Y Mike Pitt mikepitt/slimy#greenend#ogr#ku A MJ Ray markj+vote/cloaked#freeserve#oc#ku N Nick nick/upsonuk#mco Y Nigel Ashton nigel/nigelashton#demon#oc#ku Y Paul Graves paul/graves98#freeserve#oc#ku Y Peter Smyth psmyth/ukf#ten Y Philip Powell philip/blencathra#ogr#ku A Richard Kettlewell richard+pbolv/sfere#greenend#ogr#ku A Robert E A Harvey bobharvey/lineone#ten Y Simon Coombs simon/nenevr#demon#oc#ku Y Susan Ashton susan/ashton#demon#oc#ku Y Trevor Coote croote/totalise#oc#ku Y Votes not counted: Name Address Reason derrick mulvana derrick/nnevall#demon#oc#ku Ack bounce oldmolly oldmolly/ntlworld#mco No ballot paper Fresh CFV sent no reply ======================================================================== VOTETAKERS COMMENTS: This has been a very quiet vote. Votes which I have sadly had to reject have been listed. One voter's vote was originally rejected but was corrected and therefore has been included in the final results. ======================================================================== VOTING AND APPEAL GUIDELINES: This vote was conducted by a neutral third party members of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. ======================================================================= RATIONALE, SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND PROPOSED CHARTER: ======================================================================= RATIONALE: Although there are groups (uk.local.midlands and uk.local.east-anglia) that encompass Peterborough, Peterborough's geographical location makes it difficult to determine which is the most appropriate. There remains no single recognisable group within the uk.local.* hierarchy. (Peterborough lies mid-way between the East Anglian coast and the Midlands. Historically, as the Soke of Peterborough, it did not lie within any county.) ======================================================================= SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION The initial RFD was submitted on 9 May 2001. 10 people contributed to a total of 17 posts. Questions were raised about Peterborough's geographical location, and suggestions were made on how to improve the wording in the charter. A second RFD was submitted on 14 May, containing a clearer charter and an expanded rationale to explain Peterborough's geographical position. A large discussion soon developed, consisting of 14 people and 46 posts; however it was mostly centred on whether MIME should be allowed on Usenet, and whether or not "plaintext" is a real word, rather than uk.local.peterborough per se. The third RFD, submitted on 17 May, did not draw any discussion. The only amendment was to replace the word "plaintext" with the words "plain text". ======================================================================= PROPOSED CHARTER: uk.local.peterborough is for the discussion of issues relating to Peterborough, England. Contributions are welcome from people who: live, study, or work in; have an interest in the culture, history and attractions of; or plan to visit the City. Contributions are also welcome from those interested in neighboring towns and cities in the Peterborough area, where no other local group exists. Advertising Advertising is strictly forbidden, with these exceptions: Suppliers of goods and services relevant to Peterborough may post an invitation to visit their web site or request details. It should be of four lines or fewer and not posted more than once every 3 months. The subject line should begin "ADVERT: ", except for vacancy adverts, when it should begin "JOB: ". Crossposting Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of the post (e.g. "a proposed house move from Peebles to Peterborough"). Note that the advertising of widely-available goods or services is *not* relevant in this context, and that most uk.local.* groups have restrictions on advertising, or prohibit it. Cross-posted adverts, where allowed, must meet the requirements of the charters of *all* groups involved. Binaries & Formatting Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where appropriate. Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make your newsreader comply with this, read . Warning Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their "postmaster" and/or Service Provider. 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