09 Dec 2001: Committee Elections 2001
From: Committee Elections <comm2001@vote.ukvoting.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 14:11:56 +0000
Subject: 2001 Committee Election Results - REVISED RESULT
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.management
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RESULTS OF CALL FOR VOTES
Summary of Committee Elections 2001
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This revision corrects a typographical error in Stage 3 of the STV
Election transcription. The original document read incorrectly:
> No further candidates can be excluded so the largest surplus, that
> for Andrew Hartley, is transferred:
This revised document corrects the candidate name:
> No further candidates can be excluded so the largest surplus, that
> for Charles Lindsey, is transferred:
Although the outcome of the election is not materially altered,
UKVoting apologises for any confusion resulting from their error.
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Open Class: the following are elected
Candidate (c) Charles Lindsey
Candidate (a) Alan Ford
News Class: one vacancy, no candidates.
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 27th October 2001
Primary Votetaker: Jim Hill <comm2001@jhc.org.uk>
Secondary Votetaker: Richard Ashton <comm2001@vote.semolina.org>
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CONTENTS:
1) Open Class Result
2) Particulars of the Open Class Vote
3) Votetakers' Comments
4) Details of Election
5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
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1) OPEN CLASS RESULT
Candidates:
a) Alan Ford
b) Andrew Hartley
c) Charles Lindsey
d) Denis McMahon
Elected:
c) Charles Lindsey
a) Alan Ford
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2) PARTICULARS OF THE OPEN CLASS VOTE
A total of 135 submissions were received by the voting system:
1 Vote acknowledgement delivery delay notification
1 Valid ballot - subsequently cancelled
1 Cancellation request for the above
1 Message to votetaker (not related to ballot)
1 Mail system duplication (relay handover problem)
4 Invalid ballots - missing name, etc (3 revoted)
4 Valid votes superceded by revotes
5 Junk mail
5 Disallowed votes (one user, multiple identities)
112 Valid votes counted
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The following posted votes:
Ace Cwcom Net Ace Of Cards
Adam D. Barratt Adambarratt Orguk Usenet
Adrian Wontroba Stade Couk Aw1
Alan Ford Whirlnet Couk Alan
Alex D. Baxter Oenone Demoncouk AlexNews
Alex Holden Alexholden Couk Votes
Alistair Gunn Yahoo Com Palmersperry
Allen Mcmail Com Allen
Allenh Ntlworld Com Allenh
Andrew Hartley Eastupham Freeservecouk Andy
Andy Davidson Nosignal Orguk Andy
Andy Lindsay Ananam Demoncouk Andy
Andy Mabbett Pigsonthewing Orguk Andy
Anonymous Sueme Couk Allen
Anthony R. Gold Panix Com Tgold
Barry Dorrans Bann Couk Barryd
Barry Porter Bpuk Net Barry
Barry Salter Salterg Demoncouk Ukvotes
Bill Muskett Musketts Orguk Billm
Brett Paul Dunbar Dimetrodon Demoncouk Brett
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} Dsl Couk Bhk
Brian Bjforster Force9Couk Brian
Brian White Pobox Com Brian White
Carl Inglis Yoshiwara Demoncouk Uther
Charles Lindsey Clw Csmanacuk Chl
Chris Croughton Keris Net Chris
Chris Eilbeck Yordas Demoncouk Chris
Christopher Watkins Uffa Couk Christopher
Claire Speed Mcc Acuk Perdita
Clive Martin Cmartin Demoncouk Clive
Colin Rosenstiel Cix Couk Rosenstiel
Dave Hillam Hillam Orguk Dave
Dave Mason Lowjobs Couk Dave
Dave Millard Focus3 Ukcom Dave
Dave Williams Clues Com Dave
David Kitching Brocross Couk Davidk
David Mahon Amigo Couk Vote_Comm2001_Dmahon
David Mayall Ukonline Couk David Mayall
David Riley Dmriley Demoncouk Dave
David Wood Wood2 Orguk David
Denis Fuller Yahoo Com Bedfordtlfan
Denis McMahon Pickaxe Demoncouk Denis
Don Aitken Freeuk Com DonAitken
Dr John Stockton Merlyn Demoncouk Jrs
Duncan Dewar Bute Orguk Duncanuknnce2001
Eddie Bernard Ebernard Greatxscapenet Usenet
Fred Barber Frolix8 Demoncouk Fredb
Gerbil Stevey Demoncouk Voting
Glenys Pople Howfen Demoncouk Gkp
Graham Drabble Lineone Net Graham Drabble
Graham Kendall Kendallshangout Freeservecouk Graham
Helge Nareid Nareid Nareiddemoncouk H Nareid
Huge Huge Orguk Huge
Iain Bowen Alaric Alaricorguk Alaric
James Bentall Aol Com Theorangellama
James Coupe Zephyr Orguk James
James Farrar Yahoo Couk Londonstatto
James Royal-Lawson Ccl4 Org Chasm
Jason King Onetel Netuk Department_S
Jeffrey Goldberg Goldmark Org Jeffrey
Jezza Hotwells Freeservecouk Jezza
Jim Benton-Evans Bentonevans Demoncouk Jim
Jl Maerdy Org Jeff
John Duffield Si Com Duffield_John
John Hall Jhall Couk John
John Line Cus Camacuk Jml4
Jon Thomson Csv Warwickacuk Mawdl
Jonathan Wheeler Rl Acuk J F Wheeler
Kevin Andreoli Andreoli Couk Kevin
Kirklees Totalise Couk Kirklees
Mark Chater Chater Demoncouk Mark
Mark Tyndall York Acuk Mrt102
Martin Ludgate Navvies Demoncouk Editor
Martinp Wanadoo Nl Martinp
Mike Bristow Urgle Com Mike
Mike Fleming Tauzero Couk Mike
Mike Henry Mrtickle Demoncouk {$Usenet$}
Molly Mockford Mockfords Claracouk Molly
Nick Regan Nregan Couk Nick
Nigel Ashton Nigelashton Demoncouk Nigel
Nigel Cliffe Btinternet Com Ncliffe
Norman Gray Astro Glaacuk Norman
Patrick Herring Ntlworld Com Anweald
Paul Cummins Cummins Ieeuorg Paul
Paul Giverin Giverin Couk Paul
Paul Harris Harrisp Demoncouk Paul
Pete The Gardener Hotmail Com Pete_The_Gardener
Peter Gradwell Gradwell Com Peter
Peter Parry Wpp Ltduk Peter
Peter Smyth Gmx Net Psmyth
Peter Sullivan Manorcon Demoncouk Peter
Phil Wade Pooters Org Philwade
Philip Powell Blencathra Orguk Philip
Puc Ouajio Javery Demoncouk Jim
Rachel walmsley Sheepish Orguk Flossie
Richard Clayton Highwayman Com Richard
Richard G Ntlworld Com Richard G
Richard J. Letts Illuin Org RichardVote
Richard Kennaway Sys Ueaacuk Jrk
Rob Linham Yahoo Couk Rob_Linham
Rob Maxwell Atlantic Net Mhunter
Robbie Arrakis Nu Robbie
Ronan Flood Noc Ulccacuk Ronan
Roy Stilling Kalevala Orguk Rpjs
Sandy Morton Sandymillport Fsnetcouk Atm
Sherarafasar Ntlworld Com Sherarafasar
Simon gray Starone Orguk Simon
Steph Peters Sandbenders Demoncouk Steph
Steve peake Puppethead Couk Usenet
Susan Ashton Ashton Demoncouk Susan
Tez Boyes Pierrot Couk Tez
Thomas Lee Psp Couk Tfl
Tim Miller Economictruth Couk Tim
Tom Hughes Compton Nu Tom
Tony Darkstorm Couk Tony
Tony Towers Cats Tele2Couk Tony
Wm Tarrcity Demoncouk Tcnw41
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List of votes with Unique ID:
A dash "-" indicates no preference expressed for a candidate.
The letter "r" indicates votes removed from the results.
Candidates
Unique ID a b c d
003872C1110 2 3 1 4
01659EC031 - - 1 2
01E8439010 3 4 1 2
03003D7086 3 4 1 2
046C091A34 2 3 1 4
051D9EBD25 1 2 3 4
054A85C628 - - 1 2
081FCC04120 2 1 4 3
085C3DC735 2 - 3 1
086F31C917 2 4 1 3
08D086C166 3 4 1 2
09540F9539 2 - 3 1
0AEF31E318 4 2 1 3
0BE88C5013 3 4 1 2
0D40217054 1 4 3 2
0E26532077 - - 1 -
0F8D265545 4 2 3 1
0F9F32B712 4 3 2 1
1050AB53125 1 4 3 2
1154D4C05 3 4 1 2
11F1471A122 4 2 1 3
12584F7D98 1 4 3 2
125F239552 3 4 1 2
12656686109 3 - 1 2
129023551 2 - 3 1
132AB988126 - - - 1
14767996128 2 3 - 1
171CC76C61 1 3 2 4
17252496103 4 2 3 1
1E33353287 - 1 2 -
1F2243FD26 3 1 4 2
1F42BEA340 3 4 1 2
208B344748 1 - - -
20ADA26467 2 3 1 4
20E5533F32 3 4 1 2
21696D3937 3 4 1 2
21929F866 - 2 1 -
223D8C2C62 2 4 3 1
226C918864 2 3 4 1
23BE8A8047 3 4 1 2
25C2735E4 2 4 1 3
27E8467760 2 4 1 3
29AD0F5B3 - - 2 1
2A775D9059 2 3 1 4
2C04685975 1 3 4 2
2C67ADBE102 2 4 1 3
2C67EECD104 4 3 1 2
2C7A837342 4 3 1 2
2F57072C93 2 4 1 3
309A07BE43 1 3 4 2
30E2F0E163 1 - 3 2
33B639A533 1 2 - -
3476C1B416 1 - 2 -
377EFD2938 4 3 2 1
3836B8B830 1 3 - 2
3875076E58 2 3 1 4
389A3752113 1 3 - 2
38F85CBA46 2 3 1 4
395A843097 - - 1 2
3AA29BBA106 2 4 1 3
3BB1991E94 1 4 3 2
3D46200181 r r r r
3DE73D2E80 r r r r
40BED937124 1 2 4 3
41451C0049 1 4 2 3
423A4BA774 1 2 - 3
42CBAB48105 2 4 1 3
43B4B63C36 3 4 1 2
43BC856621 - - 2 1
45AFF04176 1 2 - -
4835295B119 1 4 3 2
4841CB4296 1 3 2 4
48FD856856 3 2 - 1
49D2266F71 2 4 1 3
4A70C5A479 r r r r
4C287C35131 2 - 1 -
4D1EF3C085 1 4 3 2
4D6C71AD57 1 2 4 3
4E2DF1159 1 4 2 3
4EBFF54323 2 4 3 1
5019C42A117 3 2 1 4
50A6857599 - 1 - -
559A376A65 1 4 2 3
55CD87DC92 2 4 1 3
55ED27D083 r r r r
56920BF2112 2 3 1 4
58B49C0588 2 3 4 1
5A56992472 - - - -
5AA6916495 2 3 1 4
5B1ECB18111 - - 1 2
5BF338D98 2 4 3 1
5CD4B60F121 1 2 4 3
5DA7E94520 3 4 1 2
5DE58E3389 4 3 1 2
5F2D131A68 3 4 2 1
6050B38514 - - 1 2
6277E64715 1 4 3 2
62A5EC8A84 - 3 2 1
67341234132 1 4 3 2
6AEFA80982 r r r r
6C5A65162 1 3 2 -
6D75E36A51 4 2 1 3
7182315D116 2 4 1 3
718BF0B77 - - 2 1
71BFD5FF11 2 - 1 -
7221E09E114 1 4 3 2
72B6DFDA55 3 - 2 1
7564F8B753 3 4 2 1
7573256450 1 - 2 -
75F79CE927 2 4 3 1
76230F4B70 1 4 3 2
779A42C419 2 4 1 3
7CEE2EB1118 1 - 2 -
7D421B2378 4 3 1 2
7E83AB5A107 - - 1 2
7F5EA34E123 1 3 4 2
7FD5094D108 1 3 4 2
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Preferences grid of valid votes
(a) (b) (c) (d)
Ford Hartley Lindsey McMahon
1 34 04 50 23
2 32 15 19 41
3 19 27 21 22
4 11 42 11 12
0 16 24 11 14
Total 112 112 112 112
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Election results in detail
Election: UK Usenet Committee 2001
eSTV software: v1.39
Election rules: ERS97
Number of candidates = 4
Number of places to fill = 2
Number of valid votes = 112
Number of abstentions = 1
Number of included votes = 111
Stage 1
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Total votes = 111
Places to fill + 1 = 3
Quota (111 / 3) = 37.00
Candidate first preferences
(a) Alan Ford = 34.00
(b) Andrew Hartley = 4.00
(c) Charles Lindsey = 50.00
(d) Denis McMahon = 23.00
Result - Charles Lindsey is elected (13.00 over quota of 37.00)
Active Vote (111 - 37) = 74.00
Places to fill + 1 = 2
Quota (74 / 2) = 37.00
Total surplus (50 - 37) = 13.00
Stage 2
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First preferences for Andrew Hartley of 4.00 plus the total surplus
of 13.00 is less than the support for the next lowest candidate,
Denis McMahon with 23.00 first preferences, therefore Andrew Hartley
is excluded at this stage.
Transferring papers worth 1.00
(a) Alan Ford gets 1 paper and now has 35.00 votes
(d) Denis McMahon gets 1 paper and now has 24.00 votes
2 papers are non-transferable
Active Vote (74 - 2) = 72.00
Places to fill + 1 = 2
Vote required for election = 36.00
Stage 3
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No further candidates can be excluded so the largest surplus, that
for Charles Lindsey, is transferred:
(a) Alan Ford gets 22 papers
(d) Denis McMahon gets 26 papers
48 papers transferred.
Total Present Value: 48.00
2 papers non-transferable.
Transfer value = 13.00 / 48 = 0.27
(a) Alan Ford now has 40.94 votes.
(d) Denis McMahon now has 31.02 votes.
0.04 votes non-transferable.
Result - Alan Ford is elected (3.94 over quota of 37.00)
No further places to fill. Election finished.
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3) VOTETAKERS' COMMENTS
Primary Votetaker: Jim Hill <comm2001@jhc.org.uk>
A number of problems arose in this count, mostly due to my
inexperience at handling stv votes. The advice of Joe Otten of
the Electoral Reform Society has been sought on each occasion
and his wise counsel has been greately appreciated.
Following a request from a voter to be permitted to register an
abstention on the Committee vote, it was determined that
accepting votes with no stated preferences would not affect the
outcome of the election adversely. Abstentions are recorded in
the results with dashes to indicate that no candidate
preferences have been expressed. The anonymity of abstainers is
preserved in the same manner as normal votes.
The vote rubric for future stv elections needs to be changed to
make it clear to the electorate that they have the option to
register an abstention if they wish.
Five votes, marked with "r" in the vote listing, were removed
from the results because they were detected as being posted by
the multiple identities of a voter who had already voted using
their normal identity. The original vote was determined to be
valid and is retained in the posted results. The exclusion of
those votes, they expressed identical preferences and most were
posted within minutes of each other, does not affect the outcome
of the election.
Secondary Votetaker: Richard Ashton <comm2001@vote.semolina.org>
My first STV. Very easy, thanks in no small part to the Electoral
Reform Society who allowed UKVoting, as beta testers of the
original eSTV program, to use it in this count. UKVoting are
particularly indebted to Joe Otten for his willingness to respond
to queries and for his wise guidance.
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4) ElECTION DETAILS
OPEN CLASS COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP
Resignations: 2
a) Iain Bowen (term served)
b) Charles Lindsey (term served)
Vacancies: 2
Candidates: 4
a) Alan Ford
b) Andrew Hartley
c) Charles Lindsey
d) Denis McMahon
Election: An election for two open members is required.
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NEWS ADMINISTRATOR CLASS COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP
Resignations: 0
Vacancies: 1
Candidates: 0 (no applications received)
Election: An election is not required.
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CANDIDATE DETAILS - OPEN CLASS
a) Alan Ford <alan@whirlnet.co.uk>
a) Nominators:
Glenys Pople Howfen Demoncouk Gkp
Philip Powell Blencathra Orguk Philip
Geoff Berrow Hten Orguk $BlackDog$
Molly Mockford Mockfords Claracouk Molly
a) Personal Statement
I have been a user of usenet for at least five years, and during that
time I have gained a knowledge of both the technical and
pseudo-political (or rather, social) considerations relating to
newsgroups and their creation.
For the last three years I have been a votetaker with UKVoting, and an
active participant in the uk.net.news.* groups, helping with newsgroup
creation. Additionally, for the last year or so, I have been providing
an independent strawpolling service to assist in newsgroup creation.
Broadly, I believe things to be working reasonably well around the uk.*
hierarchy. Its very high proportion of successful and readable groups
speaks for itself. There are, however, many areas that could be
improved. My core belief is /flexibility/, and it is this that, if
elected, I would like to be able to bring to the committee. Where
possible, I do not like rigid rules, but rather a flexible boundary that
can be adapted for individual needs. I would like to see this in
committee decisions and the newsgroup creation process in general. In
matters of dispute, I would like the committee to be more vocal and show
decisive leadership, by using its discretion to help the community. I
believe that increasing flexibility and openness will help to improve
the the accessibility of newsgroup creation in this hierarchy to
ordinary users. We must not forget, however, that the uk.* hierarchy has
reached where it is today through sensible management and structuring,
and we must not let this go.
b) Andrew Hartley <andy@eastupham.freeserve.co.uk>
b) Nominators:
Philip Powell Blencathra Orguk Philip
Thomas Lee Psp Couk Tfl
Eddie Bernard Ebernard Greatxscapenet Usenet
Tony Evans Darkstorm Couk Tony
b) Personal Statement
I've been posting to usenet for 2 to 3 years, in that time I have been
the proponent for three successful RFDs, two new groups, and one change
to the guidelines. I'm standing for membership of the UK Usenet
Committee because I believe in quick and sensible decisions, usenet
should be a place where discussion is fun as well as serious without the
distractions of spam or trolls. It is the role of the committee to try
and make this happen. I stand for common sense and fairness in all
aspects of the committee's duties, the committee need to be trusted by
the people, if they don't trust the committee, they won't trust usenet.
A vote for me is a vote for a better and fairer usenet.
c) Charles Lindsey <chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk>
c) Nominators:
Iain Bowen Alaric Alaricorguk Alaric
Devi Jankowicz Devi Demoncouk Animus
Geoff Berrow Hten Orguk $BlackDog$
Jack Howard Stormshadow Couk Jack
c) Personal Statement
Six years ago, uk.* was a shambles. Originally formed by the University
of Kent, (when only they had access to Usenet articles from across the
Atlantic) there were now 4 or 5 ISPs in the business, but nobody in
charge, nobody to issue offical newgroups, and only 20 or so groups.
So Something Had to be Done, and I just happened to be the one that did
it. Now there are 389 groups and the hierarchy is thriving. And I have
been actively involved, as Deputy Control (effectively full Control for
some quite long stretches), as keeper of the website and poster of
routine documents, and as a member of the Committee (and, being retired,
I am in a position to attend promptly to matters as they arise).
I was seriously considering giving up (2 terms as a Committee member
might seem like enough), until various people quite out of the blue told
me that I ought to be standing again (I didn't have to ask any of my
nominators, they just appeared as soon as it was known I was dithering
on the issue).
So there you have it. My record on UNNC & UNNM can speak for itself. I
intend to devote effort to this business and, if something has to be
done, then I will get on and do it. That's the deal.
d) Denis McMahon <denis@pickaxe.demon.co.uk>
d) Nominators:
Iain Bowen Alaric Alaricorguk Alaric
Brian Hamilton-Kelly Dsl Couk Bhk
James Coupe Zephyr Orguk James
Julie Brandon Computergeeks Couk Julie
d) Personal Statement
I hope that I can offer a useful perspective and expect to play an
active part in committee discussion. I have over 11 years experience
of newsgroup environments both on the Internet and before that using
Fidonet 'Echomail'.
I try and look at the whole picture, and I try and weigh up all sides
of an issue. I don't believe in holding to one viewpoint if a
convincing argument is made that an alternative position is better.
As far as the management of the UK usenet hierarchy is concerned and
my views on various issues relating to it, my posting history says
much more than I can here.
I do believe that the uk hierarchy has developed open and well
respected management principles around the proposal => discussion =>
vote model, and hope to assist in the development of the hierarchy
within those established principles.
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5) VOTING AND APPEAL GUIDELINES
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in
the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
<ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting>
The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce.
Allegations of irregularity should be sent to <control@usenet.org.uk>.
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