31 Mar 1997: uk.telecom proposals
From: Iain Bowen <voting@harlech.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:50:52 GMT
Subject: RESULTS: uk.telecom.* : MIXED RESULTS
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce,uk.telecom
RESULT
Creation of uk.telecom.video-conf FAILS 48:73
Creation of uk.telecom.mobile PASSES 86:55
Renaming of uk.telecom to uk.telecom.misc FAILS 66:77
Voting Closed: 23:59:59 GMT, Monday 10th March 1997
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For questions on uk.telecom.mobile contact: p-dent@ti.con (Peter Dent)
DISTRIBUTION:
These results have been posted to the following newsgroups:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.telecom
Newsgroup lines:
uk.telecom.mobile Mobile telephone equipment and networks
CHARTER: uk.telecom.mobile
This group is for the discussion of topics relevant to:-
1) The UK mobile and paging telephone companies.
(eg, Cellnet, Vodafone, One2One & Orange)
Fixed wireless services (eg Ionica & Atlantic Telecom) are NOT
mobile.
2) Telephone equipment available for the above networks
Advertisements are not allowed, except one posting of 3 lines
+ URL for new services/products that are significantly
different from that currently available.
Binaries are not permitted on this group, however references
to FTP-able material and Web URL's are allowed.
Summary:
uk.telecom.video-conf failed.
uk.telecom.mobile passed.
uk.telecom to remain as is.
Ballots received and validated
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70630(at)compuserve.com Paul Ratcliffe YES YES YES
ajcowie(at)cix.co.uk Andrew J Cowie NO NO NO
alastair(at)alimac.demon.co.uk Alastair McIntyre YES YES YES
alan(at)asalmon.cix.co.uk Alan Salmon ABS YES NO
alan.ralph(at)ukonline.co.uk Alan Ralph YES YES YES
alex(at)nwnet.co.uk Alex Comerford NO YES YES
alex(at)pgm-cons.demon.co.uk Alex Hardisty NO NO YES
andrea(at)bloodaxe.demon.co.uk Andrea Chee YES YES YES
andy(at)ananam.demon.co.uk Andy Lindsay NO NO NO
awhiteb(at)cix.compulink.co.uk Alan White NO NO NO
A.D.B.Monro(at)exeter.ac.uk A.D.B Monro NO NO NO
Alan(at)cadleyclump.demon.co.uk Alan Kay NO NO NO
bellaire(at)tk.com James Belaire NO YES NO
bob(at)bobg.demon.co.uk Bob Geddes YES YES YES
bridgesm(at)logica.com Martin Bridges ABS YES YES
bsc(at)bigfoot.com Benedict Cullum YES YES NO
BlackA(at)logica.com Andrew Black YES YES YES
Brian.Cockburn(at)i-cubed.co.uk Brian Cockburn NO YES YES
ceetnk(at)cee.hw.ac.uk Timothy Kimber NO ABS NO
chasm(at)zetnet.co.uk James Lawson NO NO NO
chl(at)clw.cs.man.ac.uk Charles Lindsey NO YES ABS
chris(at)kenda.co.uk Chris Isbell ABS YES YES
chris.dearlove(at)gecm.com Chris Dearlove NO ABS NO
cobb(at)rdgeng.enet.dec.com Graham Cobb NO NO NO
cornelius(at)vercor.demon.co.uk Marc Cornelius NO NO NO
cudac(at)csv.warwick.ac.uk Tim Clark YES NO NO
Charles(at)ellson.demon.co.uk Charles Ellson ABS YES YES
ChrisC(at)pobox.co.uk "Chris" YES YES NO
Claire.Speed(at)mailhost.mcc.ac.uk Claire Speed NO YES ABS
Colin(at)meucymru.co.uk Colin Bennett YES YES YES
Conor(at)puddle.demon.co.uk Conor O'Neill YES YES YES
dabf(at)uk.gdscorp.com Dave Fuggle YES NO NO
dan(at)dangl.demon.co.uk Dan Glover NO YES NO
dave(at)dsds.demon.co.uk Dave Spencer YES YES YES
dave(at)llondel.demon.co.uk David Hough NO NO NO
david(at)election.demon.co.uk David Boothroyd NO NO YES
david(at)wood2.demon.co.uk David Wood NO YES YES
david.mayall(at)ukonline.co.uk David Mayall NO YES YES
davtom(at)drmach.demon.co.uk David Thomas ABS YES YES
dcutts(at)cix.comulink.co.uk Dave Cutts YES YES YES
douglas.holland(at)theshack.co.uk Douglas Holland NO NO YES
Don(at)DC-TRAIN.demon.co.uk Don Carter YES YES YES
DURKIN(at)NTCNAAS01PB.ntc.nokia.con Durkin Martin NO NO NO
etlkhhd(at)etlxdmx.ericsson.se Keith Hood NO NO NO
garry(at)goldhill.demon.co.uk "Garry" YES YES YES
geoffw(at)zetnet.co.uk Geoff Webster NO NO NO
gkb(at)aber.ac.uk Gary Barnes YES YES YES
graham(at)barnowl.demon.co.uk Graham Murray NO NO NO
gwc(at)root.co.uk Geoff Clare YES YES YES
Graeme.Thomas(at)insignia.co.uk Graeme Thomas NO NO NO
Gregm(at)raynet.demon.co.uk Greg Mossop NO NO NO
hansenho(at)dircon.co.uk Chris Hansen-Ho YES YES YES
hasan(at)state.demon.co.uk Hasan Ali NO NO NO
hgmunk(at)shumitza.demon.co.uk Herbert Munk YES YES YES
hick(at)pobox.co.uk Gareth Babb NO YES YES
Howard.Orgel(at)orgels.demon.co.uk Howard Orgel NO NO NO
ian(at)johnrich.demon.co.uk Ian Peattie NO YES YES
ian(at)tigcomms.demon.co.uk Ian Hay NO NO YES
ian(at)weirdness.com Ian Chard NO YES YES
idaniel(at)jesus.ox.ac.uk Illtud Daniel YES YES ABS
ivan(at)ardent.co.uk Ivan Finegan ABS YES NO
Ian(at)sharpip.demon.co.uk Ian Sharp YES YES YES
jason(at)heaven.demon.co.uk Jason Crouch NO NO NO
jefft(at)cix.compulink.co.uk Jeff Taylor NO NO NO
jfhall(at)avondale.demon.co.uk John Hall ABS ABS NO
jim(at)jh-c.demon.co.uk Jim Hill NO NO NO
jml4(at)cus.cam.ac.uk John Line ABS YES ABS
jnoble(at)armltd.co.uk Jim Noble YES YES YES
jockm(at)basluton.demon.co.uk Jock Mackirdy ABS YES NO
john(at)jfaqs.sonnet.co.uk John Anstey ABS YES YES
john(at)linux.demon.co.uk John Phillips ABS YES YES
jon(at)serf.org Jon Harley YES YES NO
jonathan(at)klnhd.demon.co.uk Jonathan Key YES YES YES
jonsg(at)harlequin.co.uk Jon Green NO YES YES
jrg(at)blodwen.demon.co.uk James Grinter NO NO NO
jsw(at)isise.rl.ac.uk John Wright YES YES NO
Janusz.Lukasiak(at)mailhost.mcc.ac.uk Janusz Lukasiak YES NO NO
John(at)blundell.demon.co.uk John Blundell ABS NO NO
ken(at)kenhughes.prestel.co.uk Ken Hughes YES YES YES
ken.veasey(at)btinternet.com Ken Veasey YES YES YES
les(at)tracker.demon.co.uk Les Carleton NO YES YES
leveret(at)warren.demon.co.uk Nick Leverton ABS YES NO
mark(at)dumbrill.demon.co.uk Mark Dumbrill YES YES YES
matthew(at)itconsult.co.uk Matthew Richardson NO NO YES
mbm(at)mort.demon.co.uk Malcolm Mladenovic ABS ABS NO
mc(at)mchome.demon.co.uk Mike Clements NO NO NO
meldrum(at)dial.pipex.com Darren Meldrum ABS NO NO
melkor(at)utumno.demon.co.uk Jeremy Evans NO NO NO
michael(at)cavrdg.demon.co.uk Michael Parry YES YES YES
mike(at)mikecat.demon.co.uk Mike Cattell NO NO NO
mike(at)tigana.demon.co.uk Mike Convey ABS ABS NO
mike(at)tw2.com Mike Henry YES YES YES
mike.ginger(at)metricom.seuk.com Mike Ginger YES YES NO
mjb(at)pootle.demon.co.uk Michael Brown YES YES NO
MCF(at)datcon.co.uk Matthew Finlayson NO NO NO
Merkarell(at)ellmar.demon.co.uk Mark Eller YES YES YES
Mike.Belch(at)UK.Sun.COM Mike Belch YES YES YES
ncw(at)axis.demon.co.uk Nick Craig-Wood NO NO NO
neil(at)nharris.demon.co.uk Neil Harris NO NO NO
nick(at)aboard.co.uk Nick Perry NO YES YES
nick(at)njp-systems.cix.co.uk Nick Pulsford YES YES YES
nigel.scott(at)dial.pipex.com Nigel Scott ABS YES NO
nightwol(at)dircon.co.uk Steve Fagg NO NO NO
nsimmons(at)scigen.co.uk "nsimmons" ABS NO NO
oakleym(at)admin.ehche.ac.uk Mark Oakley NO NO NO
pabooth(at)totalweb.co.uk Paul Booth NO YES NO
parkin(at)solartron.com Dave Parkin YES YES NO
paul(at)pcserv.demon.co.uk Paul Carpenter NO ABS NO
pb10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk Paul Bolchover YES YES INV[1]
pete(at)physchem.ox.ac.uk Pete Biggs NO NO NO
peter(at)aldie.co.uk Peter Ilieve NO NO NO
peter(at)sumnerp.demon.co.uk Peter Sumner NO NO NO
peter(at)verrine.demon.co.uk Peter Corlett NO NO NO
phil.henry(at)telcore.demon.co.uk Phil Henry NO NO YES
pmd(at)tcp.net.uk Phil Dye NO YES YES
pstaveley(at)zetnet.co.uk Peter Staveley ABS YES YES
p-dent(at)ti.com Peter Dent ABS YES YES
Peter(at)adelheid.demon.co.uk Peter Strangman NO NO NO
Peter(at)lemoncurry.compulink.co.uk Peter McMinn YES YES NO
Philip.Moss(at)Swindon.gpsemi.com Philip Moss NO NO NO
richard(at)bonshaw.demon.co.uk Richard Anderton NO NO NO
richard(at)cogsci.ed.ac.uk Richard Tobin NO NO NO
richard(at)corixia.demon.co.uk Richard Ashton NO YES NO
richard(at)illuin.demon.co.uk Richard Letts ABS YES NO
richard(at)stonix.demon.co.uk Richard Lamont YES YES YES
richard(at)turnpike.com Richard Clayton YES YES NO
rickm(at)pixel.co.uk Rick Martin NO YES NO
rrl(at)minfo.demon.co.uk R Ross-Langley NO YES YES
RJ.Millar(at)ulst.ac.uk Richard Millar ABS YES YES
RJAVERY(at)europem01.nt.com Richard Avery ABS YES YES
RSW(at)anchorag.demon.co.uk Russell Whitworth NO YES YES
sca(at)heysford.demon.co.uk Simon Allen YES YES NO
simon(at)nuts.demon.co.uk Simon Bonnick NO NO NO
simon(at)star-one.org.uk Simon Gray ABS ABS NO
sjg(at)k2.stcatz.ox.ac.uk Stephen Gower NO YES NO
stepbar(at)nortel.ca Steve Barnes YES YES YES
steven.clarke(at)keble.oxford.ac.uk Steven Clark YES YES ABS
stuart(at)hyperion.co.uk Stuart Fiske ABS YES YES
Simon(at)obsydian.demon.co.uk "Simon" NO NO NO
telecon(at)dircon.co.uk Steve Ellwood NO NO NO
tfl(at)psp.co.uk Thomas Lee YES YES YES
tgold(at)microvst.demon.co.uk Anthony Gold ABS YES YES
tone(at)antb.demon.co.uk "Tone" YES YES YES
training(at)bcceddts.demon.co.uk Andy Mabbett YES ABS YES
TEX(at)rmcs,cranfield.ac.uk Brian Kelly ABS NO NO
u4d14cc(at)cc.keele.ac.uk Julian White YES YES NO
v.narinian(at)ic.ac.uk Vartan Narinian NO NO NO
vashti(at)drmach.demon.co.uk Rachael Munns NO YES YES
Invalid ballots
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chris(at)monrepos.no.spam.demon.co.uk Spamblock
peter(at)wppltd.demon.co.uk Reply-To set to localhost
root(at)quetz.demon.co.uk Administative Address
[0]Real Names (or established handles) were not a requirement for this vote due
to the idiot votetaker not putting space for them on the ballot.
[1] Only the vote on the third part of the ballot was invalid, the rest of the
ballot was counted.
Votetakers Rant
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149 valid ballots were received. The majority of which where correctly
formatted although a number had the votes outside the voting box. I shall
have to work on improving the rubric again :-( But no complete CFV's were
sent back which was much better than normal.
Apart from the usual problems with votes, the two new fun things appear to be
spamblocks and setting your reply-to address as localhost. The Perl script that
leafs through my mailbox sending replies is dumb and can't spot this and
therefore replies to them. I do not believe that it is job of the votetaker
to spot deliberately invalid mail addresses and hand-cruft replies to them,
if you are mailing in a vote - remove your spamblock. Mentioning spamblocks,
I hope that the system I have used above will stop "harvesters" getting this
vote -if anyone has UCE that they think has come from this posting, mail me
at my personal address (iain.bowen@harlech) and I'll revise the idea.
Oh yes, MIME mail, having upgraded my mailer recently - I didn't have too
much problem with the many people who seem to insist on sending their mail
quoted/unreadable and I even managed to get around the gentleman whose headers
proudly announced that it was a Japanese encoded mail, however I did not
enjoy the multipart/alternative mail one little bit - HTML is for the fscking
Web not mail or News. Btw, MIME fiends are warned, if I can't read it easily
using my mailer or less, it don't get counted.
My apologies for the delay. I decided to do all this by hand rather than
rewriting the Perl and it took longer that I thought. My new job is also a
little knackering and I appear to have started a relationship - my timing is,
as you can all see, impeccable.
--
Iain D. Bowen - Volunteer Votetaker, UK-VOTING. voting(at)harlech.demon.co.uk
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