23 Sep 1996: Vehicles and Transport Groups in the UK Hierarchy
From: Iain Bowen <voting@harlech.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1996/09/23
Subject: RESULT: Cars | Vehicles | Transport Hierarchy
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.transport,uk.transport.ride-sharing,uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.motorcycles,uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.waterways,uk.railway
Summary: uk.rec.cars.* PASSES 34:31:9 uk.rec.cars.makers FAILS 34:25
Note from Control: barring any dissent over the voting process the
outstanding uk.rec.car groups will be created in one week:
uk.rec.cars.vw.aircooled
uk.rec.cars.sport.tvr
Richard.
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RESULT
Vehicles and Transport Groups in the UK Hierarchy
Voting closed 23:59:59 GMT, 20th September 1996.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UK-VOTING.
UK-VOTING is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFV's in
the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote was taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting. Further
information on UK-VOTING can be found at http://www.harlech.demon.co.uk
For voting questions only contact voting@harlech.demon.co.uk (Iain Bowen).
For questions about the new hierarchy contact the proposer
at the address given below:
Claire Speed (c.speed@mcc.ac.uk)
Kevin Rolph (kevin@primag.co.uk)
Charles Lindsey (chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk)
Tone (tone@antb.demon.co.uk)
Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config,
uk.transport, uk.transport.ride-sharing,
uk.rec.cars.classic, uk.rec.motorcycles,
uk.rec.cycling, uk.rec.waterways,
uk.railway
Summary: uk.rec.cars.* PASSES 34:31:9
uk.rec.cars.makers FAILS 34:25
Rationale:
There are currently some vehicle based groups which exist under uk.rec.*
namely:
uk.rec.cars.classic
uk.rec.motorcycles
There are some transport groups currently in the uk.transport hierarchy
namely:
uk.transport
uk.transport.ride-sharing
There exists a group from the old ways of the uk.* hierarchy which does
not as yet have a new home:
uk.railway
There are also proposals going on at the moment for some more car based
groups under uk.rec.cars.* and for some aviation groups (also under uk.rec.*)
and also for a learner driver group (under uk.transport) but as there is no
clear policy on where they should live they can all choose on an individual
basis. This means that the discussion of whether there should be a
designated hierarchy and which it should be has arisen more than once.
The intention of this proposal is for the future of the transport and vehicle
hierarchies to be agreed across the board in preparation for all new
proposals.
CHARTER: Framework for uk.rec.cars.*
For the discussion of the technicalities and usage of cars within
the UK. Although such usage will mostly be of a recreational nature,
discussion of non-recreational usage is not forbidden. Groups may exist
under this hierarchy for different types of car (classic, sports, etc.)
and for different activities involving cars (maintenance, etc.)
1. [ and for different makes or models.]
OR
2. [. Groups for the discussion of specific makes or models, however,
should be formed under the sub-hierarchy uk.rec.cars.makers.*.]
Note that motorcycles should be discussed under uk.rec.motorcycles,
rallying, hill climbing and the like should be discussed under
uk.rec.motorsport.*, and commercial operations and matters of transport
policy should be discussed under uk.transport.*.
END CHARTER.
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FIRST COUNT (Quota = 38)
uk.rec.cars 34
uk.vehicles.cars 31
uk.transport.cars 9 ELIMINATED
SECOND COUNT (Elimination of uk.transport.cars) (quota remains 38)
uk.rec.cars 34 + 5 39 ELECTED
uk.vehicles.cars 31 + 4 35
Non-Transferable 0
The cars.makers hierarchy FAILS 34:25 failing to gain a majority of 12 for the
new hierarchy.
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FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
The following list of addresses is copyright 1996 by the Revolutionary
Penguin Press(1985). Use for any purpose other than verifying the vote
for this newsgroup is prohibited.
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uk.transport.cars.* -----------------------------------------------
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uk.vehicles.cars.* ------------------------------------------- |
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uk.rec.cars.* ------------------------------------------- | |
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v v v
a.frame@euro.apple.com Alan W Frame 1 - - N
A.Stevenson@lancaster.ac.uk Andrew Stephenson 3 1 2 Y
ahenry@dircon.co.uk Andrew Henry - 1 2 Y
Alasdair@dram.demon.co.uk Alasdair Baxter - 1 2 N
alien@alien8.demon.co.uk "alien" 1 - 2 Y
andrew@aghl.demon.co.uk Andrew G.H. Love 3 1 2 Y
antispam@horizon.co.uk Richard Ashton 3 1 2 N
arwel@cartref.demon.co.uk Arwel Parry 1 2 3 Y
B.Robertson@lancs.ac.uk Bill Robertson 2 1 3 -
Bakitchen@aol.com Barry Kitchen 3 1 2 N
buckley_michael@isus.emc.com Michael Buckley 3 1 2 N
chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk Charles Lindsey 1 2 3 Y
chris@waverider.co.uk Chris Ward - 1 2 N
christopher@uffa.demon.co.uk Christopher Watkins 1 2 3 N
Claire.Speed@mailhost.mcc.ac.uk Claire Speed 3 1 2 -
david@election.demon.co.uk David Boothroyd - 1 2 N
davidjw@argonet.co.uk D J Warner 2 3 1 Y
dmarsh@spuddy.mew.co.uk David Marsh 1 - 2 -
dylan@islandnet.com Dylan Littlewood 2 3 1 Y
Ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Frank Todd 1 - - N
gdmr@dcs.ed.ac.uk George Ross 3 1 2 -
ged@gmartin.demon.co.uk Ged Martin 1 - - -
gt@geetee.keme.co.uk Geoff Toon - 1 - -
ian@binny.demon.co.uk Ian Vincent 1 - - -
ianmay@bgarden.demon.co.uk Ian May 2 - 1 Y
idaniel@jesus.ox.ac.uk Illtud Daniel 1 - - N
kevin@primag.co.uk Kevin Rolph - 2 1 N
ki11@cityscape.co.uk Chris Wright 3 2 1 Y
J.Hanna@ulst.ac.uk Jim Hanna 1 2 3 Y
james@frutiger.staffs.ac.uk James Berriman 2 1 3 N
jeremy@beaver-valley.co.uk Jeremy Tinkler 2 1 3 Y
Leroy@baram.demon.co.uk Leroy Curtis 1 - 2 Y
m.gilbert@ucl.ac.uk Martin Gilbert 2 1 3 -
m.harrison@zetnet.co.uk Michael A Harrison 2 3 1 Y
mapbs@csv.warwick.ac.uk Rolf Mantel 1 - 2 -
marmoset@bombsite.demon.co.uk Patrick Evans 1 - 2 -
mcpheat@phys.strath.ac.uk Robert McPheat 1 3 2 -
michael@cavrdg.demon.co.uk Michael Parry - 1 2 Y
Mike.C.Connally@cdc.com Mike Connally 2 1 3 N
mike@mikecat.demon.co.uk Mike Cattell 2 1 - Y
Mike@tauzero.demon.co.uk Mike Fleming 1 2 3 -
mograces@mkurrein.co.uk Martin Kurrein 1 3 2 N
ncliffe@hfnet.bt.co.uk Nigel Cliffe 2 1 3 Y
nickm@discover.co.uk Nick Meredith 3 1 2 N
nigel@ashton.demon.co.uk Nigel Ashton 1 - 2 Y
pb10003@cam.ac.uk Paul Bolchover 1 2 - Y
Pete@ironwrks.demon.co.uk Peter Byrne 2 1 - N
peter@iceland.demon.co.uk Peter Ingason - 1 2 Y
phrgv@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tim Naylor 3 2 1 Y
pjh1@leicester.ac.uk Pete Humble 1 - 2 Y
prar@vossnet.co.uk Rennie Prar 2 1 - Y
r.chapman@zetnet.co.uk Roger Chapman 2 3 1 N
rparker@mistral.co.uk Roy Parker 1 3 2 N
richard@illuin.demon.co.uk Richard Letts 1 - - N
richard@stonix.demon.co.uk Richard Lamont 1 - 2 N
richard@turnpike.com Richard Clayton 1 2 3 N
Richard@challrj.demon.co.uk Richard John Challis 1 - 2 Y
rod@ellery.demon.co.uk Rod Ellery 1 2 3 Y
rogerb@eiffel.demon.co.uk Roger Browne 3 1 2 -
simon@star-one.org.uk Simon Gray 1 2 - Y
slewin@zetnet.co.uk Steve Lewin 1 3 2 N
smiker@dircon.co.uk Mike Rumboll 2 1 - Y
steelej@syntegra.bt.co.uk John Steele 1 2 3 Y
stephen@congress.demon.co.uk Stephen Allcroft 1 2 3 Y
steve.hunt@persimmon.com Steve Hunt 2 1 3 Y
swfb@bokop.win-uk.net S.W.F. Borthwick 1 3 2 Y
tcrnapt@ucl.ac.uk Adrian Tribe 3 2 1 N
telecom@dircon.co.uk Steve Ellwood 2 1 3 Y
tfl@psp.co.uk Thomas Lee 3 1 2 Y
tim@cre.canon.co.uk Tim O'Donaghue 1 - 2 Y
timheaps@sirisol.demon.co.uk Tim Heaps 2 1 3 Y
tms@ansa.co.uk Toby Speight - 1 2 N
tone@antb.demon.co.uk A K Bournes 1 - 2 N
trevor@tdennis.demon.co.uk Trevor Dennis 1 - - -
Votes in Error
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edubs@dmu.co.uk Sender: disagrees with From:
No name given
Ack bounced (no such domain)
Kevin@dial.pipex.com Kevin Lee Ack bounced (no such address)
rah94@aber.ac.uk No name given
VOTETAKERS NOTES
If you are going to use a nom-de-plume, then I will check against DejaNews and
if you ain't there, it doesn't count. Also, far too many people sent the whole
CFV back rather than the ballot - please, please don't do this (and if anyone
can think of some body text that stops people doing it, I'd be grateful).
Iain would like to acknowledge his friends tr and awk who helped make this a
lot easier.
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