09 Feb 2000: Changes to uk.local.london Charter and Create .info Group
From: alan@whirlnet.co.uk (Alan Ford)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:23:32 GMT
Subject: RESULTS: Changes to uk.local.london Charter and Create .info Group:
BOTH PASS
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.london
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Changes to uk.local.london:
Change charter of uk.local.london PASSES 24:8:7
Create uk.local.london.info PASSES 25:9:5
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Voting began Friday 14 January 2000
Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, Friday 4 February 2000
Proponent: Barry Salter <ull-prop@salterg.demon.co.uk>
Votetaker: alan@whirlnet.co.uk (Alan Ford)
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DISTRIBUTION:
These results have been posted to:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.local.london
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VOTING SUMMARY:
The Rationale, Summary of Discussion, and Proposal follow the main
results for informational purposes.
CREATE uk.local.london.info -----------\
CHANGE CHARTER uk.local.london ----\ |
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YES 24 25
NO 8 9
ABSTAIN 7 5
TOTAL 39 39
YES MAJORITY 16 16
There were a total of 39 valid votes, and no invalid votes. For both
proposals the YES vote beat the NO vote by the required majority of 12,
so both proposals pass.
There will be a five day discussion period after these results have
been posted before the group is created to allow for any allegations
of irregularities to be raised.
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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS:
Not an excessive amount of interest in this vote, but the result seems
pretty decisive. The vote iteself passed off without incident, and
once again everybody (IIRC) provided valid ballot papers first time!
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THE RESULTS IN FULL:
Total: 39 votes
Create uk.local.london.info ------\
Change Charter of uk.local.london --\ |
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Aakash Mehendale aakash@popaccount@OCm N N
Alan Fleming af@contract@OC@KU Y Y
Alex Holden votes@alexh@clara@OC@KU Y Y
Andrew Smith andrew@smithh@usa@net Y Y
Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing@demon@OC@KU A A
Andy Roberts andyrobts@zetnet@OC@KU N A
astral alice alice@darkwave@org@KU Y Y
Barry Salter ukvotes@salterg@demon@OC@KU Y Y
Bill bill@billybubbles@demon@OC@KU Y Y
Brymor bryan@brymor@freeserve@OC@KU N N
dave d voting001@stejonda@demon@OC@KU Y Y
David Wood david@wood2@org@KU Y Y
DerekK derek@knight@bigfoot@OCm Y Y
dmahon dmahon@amigo@demon@OC@KU Y Y
Iain iain@deepsea@force9@OC@KU Y Y
Ian Kitching systimk@bridge@anglia@ac@KU Y Y
Jeffrey Goldberg J@Goldberg@Cranfield@ac@KU A A
Jim Ley Jim@jibbering@OCm Y Y
Joe Higman Joe@higco@freeserve@OC@KU N N
Jon Thomson jon@thomson2273@freeserve@OC@KU A Y
Kat katrina@st@cwcom@net A Y
Leo Vegoda leo@vegoda@org A Y
Paul Paul-u@xebon@clara@OC@KU Y Y
Paul Leake P@J@Leake@durham@ac@KU A A
Philip Hunt phil@comuno@OCm Y Y
Philip Powell philip@blencathra@demon@OC@KU Y Y
{R} {R}@semolina@org Y Y
Rex M F Smith sumisu@gehena@demon@OC@KU N N
Rogi rogi@indigo@ie Y Y
simon gray simon@star-one@org@KU A A
Sky Rider ODPS@CyberScriber@OCm Y Y
Steve Peake puppet@dial@pipex@OCm Y Y
Terry Lange tlange@prodigy@net Y Y
Tim Walls tim@snowgoons@fsnet@OC@KU N N
tiny clipper@dircon@OC@KU Y N
tobias erle vote-uk@kholdan@snafu@de Y N
Tom Heathcote TomHeathcote@email@OCm Y Y
Tony Walton tony@walton@sun@OC@KU N N
Tristan White Tristan_White@rocketmail@OCm N N
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PROPONENT'S RATIONALE:
In recent months, uk.local.london has become somewhat unwieldy due to
the high volume of off-topic "chat" which is being posted. It is
proposed to recharter uk.local.london specifically for this "chatting"
and create uk.local.london.info for, and I quote from the existing
charter for uk.local.london, "requesting and disseminating information
regarding living in, or visiting, London."
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PROPONENT'S SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:
Whilst the majority of posters have expressed support for the proposal,
a significant minority have expressed displeasure at it, including one
poster who supported the 2nd RFD, but then disagreed with the 3rd
despite it merely being a rearrangement of the originally proposed
charters. It is for this reason that I am requesting a vote rather than
attempting a FAST TRACK.
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PROPOSALS:
NEWSGROUPS LINES:
uk.local.london London, the capital city of the United Kingdom
uk.local.london.info Information about living in, or visiting, London
NEW CHARTER: uk.local.london
This group is for general chat with London, England as a focus.
ADVERTISING
Advertising is forbidden.
CROSS-POSTING
Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to
more than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be
geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the
subject of the post (e.g. "moving house from Manchester to London").
BINARIES & FORMATTING
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, word processor files, Zip files,
"business cards", etc.), are *forbidden*, with the exception of
cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP).
Such material belongs on a web or FTP site, to which a pointer may
be posted.
Posts must be readable as plaintext and only mock-HTML format marks to
denote emotion (e.g. <pedant>..</pedant>), if any, should be used.
Posts duplicating their text content as fully marked up HTML, or only
the latter, should not be made.
Posters are invited to read a guide on the World Wide Web at
<http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html> for further information on how
to configure newsreaders to post to uk.* newsgroups.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER FOR NEW NEWSGROUP: uk.local.london.info
This group is a forum for requesting and disseminating information
regarding living in, or visiting, London. Transport queries should be
directed to the companion group uk.transport.london.
ADVERTISING
Advertising is forbidden, with the following exceptions:
Suppliers of goods and services relevant to London may post a pointer
to their website or invitation to request details. This may not exceed
four lines and may be posted no more often than once every three
months. The subject line should begin "ADVERT: ", except for vacancies,
which should begin "JOB: ".
CROSS-POSTING
Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more than
a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be geographically
adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of the post (e.g.
"moving house from Manchester to London").
Note that the advertising of widely-available goods or services is
*not* relevant in this context, and that most uk.local.* groups have
restrictions on advertising, or prohibit it. Cross-posted adverts,
where allowed, must meet the requirements of the charters of *all*
groups involved.
BINARIES & FORMATTING
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, word processor files, Zip files,
"business cards", etc.), are *forbidden*, with the exception of
cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP).
Such material belongs on a web or FTP site, to which a pointer may be
posted.
Posts must be readable as plaintext and only mock-HTML format marks to
denote emotion (e.g. <pedant>..</pedant>), if any, should be used. Posts
duplicating their text content as fully marked up HTML, or only the
latter, should not be made.
Posters are invited to read a guide on the World Wide Web at
<http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html> for further information on how
to configure newsreaders to post to uk.* newsgroups.
END CHARTER.
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