14 Mar 1996: uk.politics.*
RESULT: uk.politics reorganisation : All groups PASS.
Author: Iain D. Bowen
Email: voting@harlech.demon.co.uk
Date: 1996/03/14
Forums: uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.announce, uk.politics
Message-ID: <result-uk.politics-140396-212651@usenet.org.uk>
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RESULT
Splitting the uk.politics group into a hierarchy
Voting for this CFV closed 23:59:59 UTC, 5 March 1996.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UK-VOTING.
For voting questions only contact voting@harlech.demon.co.uk (Iain Bowen).
For questions about the proposed new newsgroups contact the respective
proponents whose names are against the individual groups.
Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.politics
Summary: - rename uk.politics to uk.politics.misc
- create uk.politics.announce
- create uk.politics.economics
- create uk.politics.environment
- create uk.politics.constitution
- create uk.politics.philosophy
- create uk.politics.drugs
- create uk.politics.crime
For Group Passage, the sum of votes for a name proposal be 12 greater than
the number of votes against group creation on the first ballot.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group will be
created shortly thereafter. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to
control@usenet.org.uk.
SUMMARY:
uk.politics split PASSES 64: 16
rename uk.politics to uk.politics.misc PASSES 61: 19
create uk.politics.announce PASSES 63: 11
create uk.politics.constitution PASSES 61: 11
uk.politics.{crime,justice,law-&-order,legal}
Total Valid Votes 70
FIRST COUNT - Quota = 36
uk.politics.crime 22
uk.politics.justice 8 ELIMINATED
uk.politics.law-&-order 13
uk.politics.legal 14
No group 13
SECOND COUNT - NTV = 0 Quota = 36
uk.politics.crime 22 + 3 = 25
uk.politics.law-&-order 13 + 3 = 16
uk.politics.legal 14 + 2 = 16
No group 13 13 ELIMINATED
THIRD COUNT - NTV = 6 Quota = 33
uk.politics.crime 25 + 3 = 28
uk.politics.law-&-order 16 16 ELIMINATED
uk.politics.legal 16 + 4 = 20
FOURTH COUNT - NTV = 2 Quota = 32
uk.politics.crime 28 + 11 = 39 ELECTED
uk.politics.legal 20 + 3 = 23
create uk.politics.drugs PASSES 51: 18
create uk.politics.economics PASSES 62: 9
create uk.politics.environment PASSES 56: 21
create uk.politics.philosophy PASSES 52: 16
Successful Group Charters:
NAME: uk.politics.misc
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.misc Miscellaneous UK political discussion.
PROPONENT
Philip Hunt <philip@storcomp.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.misc will carry discussion relevant to politics in
the UK which is not covered by a more specific group within the
uk.politics.* hierarchy.
ADVERTISING:
Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines)
announcements of relevant events are allowed.
MODERATION:
Unmoderated.
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
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NAME:
uk.politics.announce
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.announce UK political announcements
PROPONENT
Lyn David Thomas <lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.announce will be the group for political announcements.
Suitable subjects for postings would include: the announcement of
political meetings, the text of new party policy, the opening of new
political web sites. Discussion of issues raised in
uk.politics.announce should be taken to the specific group within
the uk.politics.* hierarchy for that subject or to uk.politics.misc.
Posters to this group should set their follow up line to the
relevant uk.politics subgroup.
ADVERTISING:
Commercial advertising is forbidden.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Cross posting to other
groups in the uk.politics hierarchy is not permissible.
MODERATION:
Moderated. Proposed moderators:
Lyn David Thomas (lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk)
Ivor Peksa (ivor@club.demon.co.uk)
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
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NAME: uk.politics.economics
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.economics Economic policy relating to the UK.
PROPONENT
Philip Hunt <philip@storcomp.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.economics will carry discussion of economics and
economic policy that is relevant to politics in the UK. Examples of
relevant topics are (but not limited to): a minimum wage, UK
economic performance, the tax and benefits systems.
ADVERTISING:
Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines)
announcements of relevant events are allowed.
MODERATION:
Unmoderated.
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
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NAME: uk.politics.environment
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.environment Politics and the environment in the UK.
PROPONENTS
Stephen Hopkins <shopkins@coventry.ac.uk>
Lyn David Thomas <lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.environment will carry discussion of the political
aspects of environmental policy in the UK.
Examples of relevant topics include (but are not limited to):
transport policy and public versus private transport; planning
regulations, greenbelts - their establishment and maintenance;
industrial development and its impact on the environment; farming
methods, ecological management; responsibility for safeguarding the
ecosystem; recycling and waste disposal; water pollution; the Common
Agricultural Policy; the Common Fisheries Policy; and matters
relating to regulatory bodies such as the NRA.
ADVERTISING:
Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines)
announcements of relevant events are allowed.
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
MODERATION:
Unmoderated.
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NAME: uk.politics.constitution
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.constitution Constitutional issues relating to the UK.
PROPONENTS
Stephen Hopkins <shopkins@coventry.ac.uk>
Lyn David Thomas <lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.constitution will carry discussion on the UK
constitution, its proposed revision and alteration and the impact
that various policies or legislation will have on it. Examples of
relevant topics are: devolution to Scotland, Wales, Northern
Ireland, Cornwall and the English Regions; the development of the
European Union and other trans-national organisations; the
relationship between the executive and the legislature; reform of
the upper chamber; the relationship between local government,
Quangos and central government; the relevance of a written
constitution, and constitutional matters affecting the Royal Family.
ADVERTISING:
Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines)
announcements of relevant events are allowed.
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
MODERATION:
Unmoderated.
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NAME: uk.politics.philosophy
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.philosophy Philosophical basis for politics in the UK.
PROPONENT
Lyn David Thomas <lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.philosophy will carry discussion of the ideological
differences between the political parties in the UK and their
underlining philosophies. Examples of relevant topics include (but
are not limited to): What is capitalism/socialism/libertarianism;
capitalism/communism can (never) work; the differences between
nationalism as practised by Plaid Cymru/SNP etc and the white
nationalists; personal liberty versus collective responsibility.
ADVERTISING:
Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines)
announcements of relevant events are allowed.
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
MODERATION:
Unmoderated.
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NAME: uk.politics.drugs
ONE-LINE SUMMARY:
uk.politics.drugs Politics of legal and illegal drug use in the UK.
PROPONENT
Philip Hunt <philip@storcomp.demon.co.uk>
CHARTER:
uk.politics.drugs will carry discussion of the political
aspects of legal and illegal drug use in the UK. Examples of
relevant topics include (but are not limited to): licensing
laws, legalisation of cannabis.
ADVERTISING:
Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines)
announcements of relevant events are allowed.
MODERATION:
Unmoderated.
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
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NAME:
uk.politics.crime
ONE LINE SUMMARY:
Criminal policy relating to the UK
PROPONENT:
Stephen Hopkins <shopkins@coventry.ac.uk>
CHARTER:
This group will be for the discussion of criminal policy relating to
the UK. For example crime prevention policy, the judiciary, Home
Office policy on prison sentencing, and causes of crime.
MODERATION:
No moderation
ADVERTISING:
Short adverts of specific interest may be posted where relevant
BINARIES:
Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may
be found are.
CROSS POSTING:
Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to
restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the
uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups.
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FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
The following list of addresses is copyright 1996 by the Revolutionary
Penguin Press(1985). Use for any purpose other than verifying the vote
for this newsgroup is prohibited.
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u4d14@cc.keele.ac.uk N N N N 1 N N N N
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u4m61@cc.keele.ac.uk N N N N 1 N N N N
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gholdenorg@gnew.gn.apc.org (Gary Holden) Ack Bounced - invalid address
mcpheat@phys.strath.ac.uk (R Mc Pheat) Ack Bounced - invalid address
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is not individually reported due to format. If you voted in that section and
your vote is not registered - it was invalid. The reasons for this were, in
general, twofold: either voting with more than one YES, or in a YES, 2, 3
format.
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