RESULT: uk.politics reorganisation : All groups PASS. Author: Iain D. Bowen Email: voting@harlech.demon.co.uk Date: 1996/03/14 Forums: uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.announce, uk.politics Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULT Splitting the uk.politics group into a hierarchy Voting for this CFV closed 23:59:59 UTC, 5 March 1996. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UK-VOTING. For voting questions only contact voting@harlech.demon.co.uk (Iain Bowen). For questions about the proposed new newsgroups contact the respective proponents whose names are against the individual groups. Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.politics Summary: - rename uk.politics to uk.politics.misc - create uk.politics.announce - create uk.politics.economics - create uk.politics.environment - create uk.politics.constitution - create uk.politics.philosophy - create uk.politics.drugs - create uk.politics.crime For Group Passage, the sum of votes for a name proposal be 12 greater than the number of votes against group creation on the first ballot. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group will be created shortly thereafter. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. SUMMARY: uk.politics split PASSES 64: 16 rename uk.politics to uk.politics.misc PASSES 61: 19 create uk.politics.announce PASSES 63: 11 create uk.politics.constitution PASSES 61: 11 uk.politics.{crime,justice,law-&-order,legal} Total Valid Votes 70 FIRST COUNT - Quota = 36 uk.politics.crime 22 uk.politics.justice 8 ELIMINATED uk.politics.law-&-order 13 uk.politics.legal 14 No group 13 SECOND COUNT - NTV = 0 Quota = 36 uk.politics.crime 22 + 3 = 25 uk.politics.law-&-order 13 + 3 = 16 uk.politics.legal 14 + 2 = 16 No group 13 13 ELIMINATED THIRD COUNT - NTV = 6 Quota = 33 uk.politics.crime 25 + 3 = 28 uk.politics.law-&-order 16 16 ELIMINATED uk.politics.legal 16 + 4 = 20 FOURTH COUNT - NTV = 2 Quota = 32 uk.politics.crime 28 + 11 = 39 ELECTED uk.politics.legal 20 + 3 = 23 create uk.politics.drugs PASSES 51: 18 create uk.politics.economics PASSES 62: 9 create uk.politics.environment PASSES 56: 21 create uk.politics.philosophy PASSES 52: 16 Successful Group Charters: NAME: uk.politics.misc ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.misc Miscellaneous UK political discussion. PROPONENT Philip Hunt CHARTER: uk.politics.misc will carry discussion relevant to politics in the UK which is not covered by a more specific group within the uk.politics.* hierarchy. ADVERTISING: Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines) announcements of relevant events are allowed. MODERATION: Unmoderated. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: uk.politics.announce ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.announce UK political announcements PROPONENT Lyn David Thomas CHARTER: uk.politics.announce will be the group for political announcements. Suitable subjects for postings would include: the announcement of political meetings, the text of new party policy, the opening of new political web sites. Discussion of issues raised in uk.politics.announce should be taken to the specific group within the uk.politics.* hierarchy for that subject or to uk.politics.misc. Posters to this group should set their follow up line to the relevant uk.politics subgroup. ADVERTISING: Commercial advertising is forbidden. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Cross posting to other groups in the uk.politics hierarchy is not permissible. MODERATION: Moderated. Proposed moderators: Lyn David Thomas (lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk) Ivor Peksa (ivor@club.demon.co.uk) BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NAME: uk.politics.economics ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.economics Economic policy relating to the UK. PROPONENT Philip Hunt CHARTER: uk.politics.economics will carry discussion of economics and economic policy that is relevant to politics in the UK. Examples of relevant topics are (but not limited to): a minimum wage, UK economic performance, the tax and benefits systems. ADVERTISING: Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines) announcements of relevant events are allowed. MODERATION: Unmoderated. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NAME: uk.politics.environment ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.environment Politics and the environment in the UK. PROPONENTS Stephen Hopkins Lyn David Thomas CHARTER: uk.politics.environment will carry discussion of the political aspects of environmental policy in the UK. Examples of relevant topics include (but are not limited to): transport policy and public versus private transport; planning regulations, greenbelts - their establishment and maintenance; industrial development and its impact on the environment; farming methods, ecological management; responsibility for safeguarding the ecosystem; recycling and waste disposal; water pollution; the Common Agricultural Policy; the Common Fisheries Policy; and matters relating to regulatory bodies such as the NRA. ADVERTISING: Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines) announcements of relevant events are allowed. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. MODERATION: Unmoderated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: uk.politics.constitution ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.constitution Constitutional issues relating to the UK. PROPONENTS Stephen Hopkins Lyn David Thomas CHARTER: uk.politics.constitution will carry discussion on the UK constitution, its proposed revision and alteration and the impact that various policies or legislation will have on it. Examples of relevant topics are: devolution to Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Cornwall and the English Regions; the development of the European Union and other trans-national organisations; the relationship between the executive and the legislature; reform of the upper chamber; the relationship between local government, Quangos and central government; the relevance of a written constitution, and constitutional matters affecting the Royal Family. ADVERTISING: Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines) announcements of relevant events are allowed. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. MODERATION: Unmoderated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: uk.politics.philosophy ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.philosophy Philosophical basis for politics in the UK. PROPONENT Lyn David Thomas CHARTER: uk.politics.philosophy will carry discussion of the ideological differences between the political parties in the UK and their underlining philosophies. Examples of relevant topics include (but are not limited to): What is capitalism/socialism/libertarianism; capitalism/communism can (never) work; the differences between nationalism as practised by Plaid Cymru/SNP etc and the white nationalists; personal liberty versus collective responsibility. ADVERTISING: Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines) announcements of relevant events are allowed. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. MODERATION: Unmoderated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: uk.politics.drugs ONE-LINE SUMMARY: uk.politics.drugs Politics of legal and illegal drug use in the UK. PROPONENT Philip Hunt CHARTER: uk.politics.drugs will carry discussion of the political aspects of legal and illegal drug use in the UK. Examples of relevant topics include (but are not limited to): licensing laws, legalisation of cannabis. ADVERTISING: Is forbidden, except that short (less than 20 lines) announcements of relevant events are allowed. MODERATION: Unmoderated. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: uk.politics.crime ONE LINE SUMMARY: Criminal policy relating to the UK PROPONENT: Stephen Hopkins CHARTER: This group will be for the discussion of criminal policy relating to the UK. For example crime prevention policy, the judiciary, Home Office policy on prison sentencing, and causes of crime. MODERATION: No moderation ADVERTISING: Short adverts of specific interest may be posted where relevant BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where binaries may be found are. CROSS POSTING: Excessive cross posting is inappropriate. Posters are requested to restrict their cross posting to no more than one other group in the uk.politics hierarchy, and no more than two other newsgroups. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS The following list of addresses is copyright 1996 by the Revolutionary Penguin Press(1985). Use for any purpose other than verifying the vote for this newsgroup is prohibited. Votes Processed ---------------- 1 2a 2b 2c ------2d------ 2e 2f 2g 2h | | | | c j l l n | | | | | | | | r u a e o | | | | | | | | i s w g | | | | | | | | m t o a g | | | | | | | | e i r l r | | | | | | | | | c d | o | | | | | | | | | e e | u | | | | V V V V V r V p V V V V 9407990@iona.sms.ed.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 4 1 N Y N Y (Michael R. Davidson) abelard@abelard.demon.co.uk Y N Y Y Y Y Y Y (abelard) ajs6@leicester.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 2 4 3 1 5 Y Y Y Y (Andrew Stoker) alan.ralph@ukonline.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 4 1 5 Y Y Y Y (Alan Ralph) apascoe@servelan.co.uk N N A A A A A A (Alan Pascoe) aw1@stade.co.uk A A A A A A A A (Adrian Wontroba) batemandt@cheshire-cc.btx400.co.uk (H Abraham) Y Y Y Y 1 2 3 N Y Y Y bob@speel.demon.co.uk Y Y A A A Y Y Y (Bob Speel) bt18@cityscape.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 1 Y Y Y Y (Allan Toombs) btcv@dobx.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 1 Y Y Y Y (Bill Edwards) cass@camberwell.compulink.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 1 4 Y Y N Y (Richard Cassidy) Claire.Speed@mailhost.mcc.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 2 4 3 Y Y Y Y (Claire Speed) colin@h-bplan.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (Colin Brookes) crn@netix.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 3 2 1 4 Y Y Y Y (Chris Newport) C.R.Gadsden@politics.hull.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 3 5 2 4 Y Y Y Y (Richard Gasden) david@election.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 3 4 2 5 A Y A Y (David Boothroyd) david@leguer.demon.co.uk N N Y Y 2 3 1 N Y N Y (David Chamberlain) doriordan@rcseng.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 2 N Y Y N (Dermot O'Riordan) D.Smith@exeter.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 4 3 2 5 Y Y Y Y (Daryl Smith) d.j.barker@uclan.ac.uk A Y N A 5 2 4 3 1 Y A N A (Deborah Barker) D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 3 1 4 2 Y Y Y Y (David Toube) G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk Y N N A 1 2 4 3 5 Y A Y A (J.P. Gilliver) Gary@divinity.demon.co.uk Y Y Y A 1 4 3 2 5 Y A Y Y (Gary Morgan) Graham@telvid.demon.co.uk Y Y N Y 1 Y Y Y Y (Graham King) grovesa@starbase1.caltech.edu N N N N 1 N N N N (Andrew K. Groves) huge@axalotl.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (Hugh Davies) hugh@st-ronan.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 4 2 3 Y Y Y A (Hugh Simmons) I.R.Neal@bham.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 2 1 3 Y Y Y Y (Ian R. Neal) Ian_Miller@bifroest.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 5 2 3 1 4 N Y Y N (Ian Miller) ibertram@cix.compulink.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 1 3 Y Y Y Y (Ian Bertram) IPE4NAD0@novell2.bham.ac.uk A Y N A 4 2 5 3 1 Y A N A (Neil Deason) itr@spuddy.mew.co.uk Y A Y Y 1 2 4 3 5 Y Y Y Y (Iain Robinson) ivor@club.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 1 4 Y Y Y Y (Ivor Peksa) jake@jellinek.com Y Y Y Y 1 2 4 3 Y Y Y Y (Jake Jellinek) jefft@accl.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 1 A Y Y Y (Jeffery Teece) Jim@indra.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 Y Y Y Y (Jim Holmes) john@chead-lp.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y A A A A (John McGuire) john@thebeard.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 1 4 3 5 Y Y Y Y (John Robinson) john@thegreys.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 2 3 Y Y Y Y (John Grey) jonivar@th.ph.ed.ac.uk A N A A A A N A (Jon Ivar Skullerud) Y Y Y Y 3 2 1 4 Y Y Y Y (John Eastwood) kaye@festival.ed.ac.uk N A A A A A A A (Kaye Brewster) Kevin@krlee.demon.co.uk N N N N 3 4 5 2 1 N N N N (Kevin Lee) leo@unixsoft.demon.co.uk Y Y Y A 2 3 1 4 5 A Y Y Y (Leo Hendry) lyn@stuffing.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 4 1 Y Y Y Y (Lyn David Thomas) marcus@youngnet.win-uk.net Y Y Y Y 3 2 1 4 Y Y Y Y (Marcus Young) Mark.Gould@bristol.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 3 2 4 5 Y Y Y Y (Mark Gould) mark.rigby-jones@keble.oxford.ac.uk (Mark Rigby-Jones) Y Y Y Y 1 3 2 4 5 Y Y Y Y matthew@cunliffe.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 3 4 1 2 5 A Y Y Y (Matthew Cunliffe) max@minster.york.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 2 4 3 1 5 Y Y Y N (Max Edwards) maxdes@xs4all.nl Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (Max Desorgher) mbm@mort.demon.co.uk Y N Y Y 1 3 2 4 Y Y N Y (Malcolm Mladenovic) mike@mikecat.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (Mike Cattell) mlb@rekab.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 1 4 Y Y Y Y (Martin L Baker) msr16@cus.cam.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 2 1 3 4 Y Y Y A (Matt Robb) M.S.Mangat@helios.herts.ac.uk N N N N A A A A (M.S. Mangat) nick@lilyg.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 2 3 A A A A (Nick Harrison) neilg@hpqt0319.sqf.hp.com Y Y Y Y 2 3 5 1 4 N Y Y Y (Neil Gall) Nigel@libparty.demon.co.uk N N Y N 3 2 4 1 N N N N (Nigel Ashton) osd1000@cam.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 3 2 4 1 Y Y N Y (Owen S Dunn) pdcawley@ftech.net Y Y Y Y 4 1 3 2 Y Y Y A (Piers Cawley) peter@duntone.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 1 Y Y Y Y (Peter West) pgpki@csv.warwick.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 3 4 2 Y Y Y Y (Ian Randle) phil@shuv.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 3 4 2 1 Y Y Y Y (Phil Stovell) poa02@politics.keele.ac.uk N A A A A A A A (Richard Kimber) pt100@cup.cam.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 1 Y Y Y Y (Paul Treadaway) richard@corixia.demon.co.uk Y Y Y N 1 N Y Y N (Richard Ashton) richard@illuin.demon.co.uk Y Y A Y A A A A (Richard Letts) richdan@pncl.co.uk N N N Y 3 4 2 1 N N N N (Richard Daniells) Richard@r-woolf.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 3 2 4 5 Y Y Y Y (Richard P. Woolf) rmacmillan@cix.compulink.co.uk N N N N 1 Y N N N (Robert Macmillan) RobinM@moffatt.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 4 2 3 Y Y Y N (Robin Moffatt) rod@ellery.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 3 2 1 4 5 N Y N N (Rod Ellery) rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk N N Y N 3 2 4 1 Y Y N A (Colin Rosenstiel) rpjs@stilling.tcp.co.uk N N Y Y 4 3 5 2 1 N Y Y N (Roy Stilling) simon@mahayana.demon.co.uk Y N Y Y 1 2 A Y N Y (Simon Gray) sjh@dunromin.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 3 2 4 N Y Y Y (Susan Humphrey) smusmtaj@reading.ac.uk N N Y N 3 2 5 4 1 N N Y N (Andrew John Smith) sparky@festival.ed.ac.uk Y Y Y Y 3 2 4 1 Y Y Y Y (Simon Stuart) stephen@horgan.demon.co.uk Y Y Y Y 1 2 Y Y Y Y (Stephen Horgan) Susan@ashton.demon.co.uk N N Y N 1 N N N N (Susan Ashton) tfl@psp.co.uk Y Y Y Y 2 3 1 4 5 Y Y Y Y (Thomas Lee) u4d14@cc.keele.ac.uk N N N N 1 N N N N (Julian White) u4m61@cc.keele.ac.uk N N N N 1 N N N N (Karen Matthews) Votes in error ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- gholdenorg@gnew.gn.apc.org (Gary Holden) Ack Bounced - invalid address mcpheat@phys.strath.ac.uk (R Mc Pheat) Ack Bounced - invalid address Votetakers Comment: A number of people had invalid votes in the AV vote, this is not individually reported due to format. If you voted in that section and your vote is not registered - it was invalid. The reasons for this were, in general, twofold: either voting with more than one YES, or in a YES, 2, 3 format. -- Iain D. Bowen - Volunteer Votetaker, UK-VOTING. voting@harlech.demon.co.uk please use alaric@harlech.demon.co.uk for personal mail. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------