18 Apr 1998: Change of uk.rec.gardening charter
RESULT: Change of charter for uk.rec.gardening PASSES 51:12
Author: Jon Ribbens
Email: jon@oaktree.co.uk
Date: 1998/04/18
Forums: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening
Message-ID: <result-uk.rec.gardening-980418-111148@usenet.org.uk>
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Summary: Change of charter for uk.rec.gardening PASSES 51:12
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 16 April 1998.
Proponent: newsmaster@tarrcity.demon.co.uk (William Tarr)
Votetaker: jon@oaktree.co.uk (Jon Ribbens)
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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config
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YES beat NO by a majority of 39 votes, this is more than the +12
majority required to beat the status quo.
The results follow below, with the Rationale and the changes to the
Charter beneath them for informational purposes.
Voted YES to the charter change - total: 51
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Al goodgulf-demon-co-uk, Al
Kate Alexander jbaassoc-demon-co-uk, kate
Graham Anstey mpc.data-co-uk, ganstey
Chris Boulby coniston-demon-co-uk, chris
Matthew Bray eriw-u.net-com, cima
David Bridges craigwell-demon-co-uk, cdb
Alison Brooks flin-demon-co-uk, alison
Paul Carter ntc-nokia-com, paul.carter
Matthew Chatfield naturenet-net, matt
Gary Cooper wordshop-demon-co-uk, cooper
Alison Corfield enterprise-net, eurgain
Dave Day stejonda-demon-co-uk, news98a
Rose Dewar cee-hw-ac-uk, rose
Susan Carlson Dunn nexus-demon-co-uk, carlson
Kay Easton scarboro-demon-co-uk, Kay
Carl Neil Ellwood clara-co-uk, cneilellwood
Tobias Erle berlin-snafu-de, torex
Chris French spennithorne-demon-co-uk, Chris
Anthony Frost acorn-co-uk, afrost
Rod Furr argonet-co-uk, rodfurr
Paul Giverin giverin-demon-co-uk, paul
Jon S Green harlequin-co-uk, jonsg
Tim Green poppyfields-net, lime
Andrew Henry dircon-co-uk, ahenry
PAUL HERBER pherber-co-uk, pherber
Sarah Holford brownswell-demon-co-uk, sfholford
Alan Holmes brunel-ac-uk, Alan.Holmes
JUNE HUGHES theacct-demon-co-uk, junehughes
Neil Irving neilirving-demon-co-uk, neil
Anne Jackson zetnet-co-uk, amygdala
Barry Johnson camino-demon-co-uk, bj
Helen Johnson spennithorne-demon-co-uk, Helen
Karen goodgulf-demon-co-uk, Karen
Gerard Alan Latham galatham-demon-co-uk, gerard
James Lawson ccl4-org, chasm
Thomas Lee psp-co-uk, tfl
Andy Mabbett bham.assist-demon-co-uk, amabbett
Alison Mair lemfarm-demon-co-uk, alison
Tony McCormack tmac-clara-net, cormaic
fran mcguinness mcg.gsy-demon-co-uk, fran
Neil Milne gordian-co-uk, neil
Judith Offord nottingham-ac-uk, judith.offord
Barbara Jane Ransom mearsgyl-demon-co-uk, ransom
Darren Wyn Rees netlink-co-uk, merlin
David Roberts-Jones cix-co-uk, davidrj
Kevin Rolph kgames-demon-co-uk, kcrolph
Claire Speed mcc-ac-uk, c.speed
K Starke (Gab) tarrcity-demon-co-uk, gab
William Tarr (Wm) tarrcity-demon-co-uk, newsmaster
Ray Williams sospan-demon-co-uk, ray
Neil Youngman tsr2-demon-co-uk, neil
Voted NO to the charter change - total: 12
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bram hotmail-com, brbr_goes_rsa
Colin Brook cbassoc-demon-co-uk, Colin.Brook
Thelma Good good1-demon-co-uk, thelma
Elizabeth Harris radix-net, litze
Trevor Haycocks zetnet-co-uk, t.haycocks
Steen Jensen Piper-demon-co-uk, steen
J. J. Lodder de.ster-demon-nl, jjl
Tim Quilter yahoo-com, tjq
Douglas Smith cix-co-uk, dis
Bob Spence rspencebob-demon-co-uk, Bob
Laurence G. Tilley lgtilley-demon-co-uk, laurence
A. de Wit knoware-nl, toke-d-w
ABSTAINED from voting - total: 1
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Simon Gray star.one-org-uk, simon
Invalid votes - total: 6
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Dr Helen C. Johnson Helen-demon-co-uk, Helen
Duplicate vote (looks to be also spennithorne-demon-co-uk, Helen).
Tim Green poppyfields-co-uk, lime
Bounced ack.
fran McGuinness mcg.gsy-demon-co,uk, fran
Invalid address (contains ',').
Thelma Good good1-demon-c-co-uk, thelma
Bounced ack.
Mercy Morris dial-pipex-com, Mercy
Bounced ack.
Rex Bradley brad-demon-co-uk, rex
Invalid address (' ' after '@').
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RATIONALE:
Postings have been made to the group in the past that have not
been of relevance to gardening in the UK. These postings have
sometimes resulted in extended and multiple threads that have
provided excessive distraction and / or noise. The modified
charter is intended to make it clearer what is on-topic for the
group.
The modified charter was formed after extensive discussion within
the group and has been posted to the group a number of times since
then without adverse comment. It has also been available on the
web (albeit for a shorter period) without adverse comment.
THE GROUP:
old:uk.rec.gardening To discuss gardening topics of interest in the UK
new:uk.rec.gardening To discuss gardening topics relevant to the UK
THE CHARTER:
old:To discuss gardening questions and share tips on- Weeds,
flowers, shrubs, trees, fruit and veg., lawns, beneficial
insects and animals, pests and diseases, soils, composting,
design, location, situation, seasons/times, hard structures
(paths, greenhouses, cloches, rockeries), tools and materials.
new:To discuss gardening issues relevant to the UK. These will include
flowers, shrubs, trees, fruit & vegetables, lawns, houseplants,
beneficial insects & animals, soils, composting, design, location,
situation, seasons/times, hard structures (paths, greenhouses,
cloches, rockeries), ponds, tools & materials, weeds and pests
& diseases. This is not meant to be an exhaustive list.
In the absence of more appropriate, geographically specific
newsgroups, discussion of gardening in Eire, the Channel Islands
and the Isle of Man will also be welcome. Because there are
climatic, legal, cultural and other differences, discussion of
gardening in other parts of the world is OFF TOPIC (there are
other regional gardening newsgroups, and the global rec.gardens,
one of which may be more appropriate). Please note that this
exclusion relates to subject matter, not people, and posters from
around the globe will be welcome to participate in or initiate
discussion of UK-relevant topics.
Specifically, please remember that there is no direct correlation
between US climate zones and the climate of the UK.
BINARIES:
new:All posts should be in plain ASCII text. The posting of all
binaries (including, for example, pictures, html format text or
code, "business cards", software, word processor files) is not
welcome. Such material belongs on a web or ftp site, to which a
pointer may be posted.
ADVERTISING:
old:There is to be no advertising on this newsgroup.
new:Advertising is not welcome, with the following exceptions:
Suppliers of UK-relevant gardening equipment, services or plant
material may post a pointer to their website or invitation to
request a catalogue. This may not exceed four lines. This may be
posted no more often than once every three months. The subject
line should begin "AD" or "ADVERT".
Participants in discussions may include references to their
garden-related business in their .sig (max. four lines).
MODERATION (no change):
There will be no moderator for this newsgroup.
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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in
the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to
control@usenet.org.uk.
Jon Ribbens
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