RESULT: Change of charter for uk.rec.gardening PASSES 51:12 Author: Jon Ribbens Email: jon@oaktree.co.uk Date: 1998/04/18 Forums: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Change of charter for uk.rec.gardening PASSES 51:12 ====================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 16 April 1998. Proponent: newsmaster@tarrcity.demon.co.uk (William Tarr) Votetaker: jon@oaktree.co.uk (Jon Ribbens) ====================================================================== Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config ====================================================================== YES beat NO by a majority of 39 votes, this is more than the +12 majority required to beat the status quo. The results follow below, with the Rationale and the changes to the Charter beneath them for informational purposes. Voted YES to the charter change - total: 51 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Al goodgulf-demon-co-uk, Al Kate Alexander jbaassoc-demon-co-uk, kate Graham Anstey mpc.data-co-uk, ganstey Chris Boulby coniston-demon-co-uk, chris Matthew Bray eriw-u.net-com, cima David Bridges craigwell-demon-co-uk, cdb Alison Brooks flin-demon-co-uk, alison Paul Carter ntc-nokia-com, paul.carter Matthew Chatfield naturenet-net, matt Gary Cooper wordshop-demon-co-uk, cooper Alison Corfield enterprise-net, eurgain Dave Day stejonda-demon-co-uk, news98a Rose Dewar cee-hw-ac-uk, rose Susan Carlson Dunn nexus-demon-co-uk, carlson Kay Easton scarboro-demon-co-uk, Kay Carl Neil Ellwood clara-co-uk, cneilellwood Tobias Erle berlin-snafu-de, torex Chris French spennithorne-demon-co-uk, Chris Anthony Frost acorn-co-uk, afrost Rod Furr argonet-co-uk, rodfurr Paul Giverin giverin-demon-co-uk, paul Jon S Green harlequin-co-uk, jonsg Tim Green poppyfields-net, lime Andrew Henry dircon-co-uk, ahenry PAUL HERBER pherber-co-uk, pherber Sarah Holford brownswell-demon-co-uk, sfholford Alan Holmes brunel-ac-uk, Alan.Holmes JUNE HUGHES theacct-demon-co-uk, junehughes Neil Irving neilirving-demon-co-uk, neil Anne Jackson zetnet-co-uk, amygdala Barry Johnson camino-demon-co-uk, bj Helen Johnson spennithorne-demon-co-uk, Helen Karen goodgulf-demon-co-uk, Karen Gerard Alan Latham galatham-demon-co-uk, gerard James Lawson ccl4-org, chasm Thomas Lee psp-co-uk, tfl Andy Mabbett bham.assist-demon-co-uk, amabbett Alison Mair lemfarm-demon-co-uk, alison Tony McCormack tmac-clara-net, cormaic fran mcguinness mcg.gsy-demon-co-uk, fran Neil Milne gordian-co-uk, neil Judith Offord nottingham-ac-uk, judith.offord Barbara Jane Ransom mearsgyl-demon-co-uk, ransom Darren Wyn Rees netlink-co-uk, merlin David Roberts-Jones cix-co-uk, davidrj Kevin Rolph kgames-demon-co-uk, kcrolph Claire Speed mcc-ac-uk, c.speed K Starke (Gab) tarrcity-demon-co-uk, gab William Tarr (Wm) tarrcity-demon-co-uk, newsmaster Ray Williams sospan-demon-co-uk, ray Neil Youngman tsr2-demon-co-uk, neil Voted NO to the charter change - total: 12 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bram hotmail-com, brbr_goes_rsa Colin Brook cbassoc-demon-co-uk, Colin.Brook Thelma Good good1-demon-co-uk, thelma Elizabeth Harris radix-net, litze Trevor Haycocks zetnet-co-uk, t.haycocks Steen Jensen Piper-demon-co-uk, steen J. J. Lodder de.ster-demon-nl, jjl Tim Quilter yahoo-com, tjq Douglas Smith cix-co-uk, dis Bob Spence rspencebob-demon-co-uk, Bob Laurence G. Tilley lgtilley-demon-co-uk, laurence A. de Wit knoware-nl, toke-d-w ABSTAINED from voting - total: 1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Gray star.one-org-uk, simon Invalid votes - total: 6 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Helen C. Johnson Helen-demon-co-uk, Helen Duplicate vote (looks to be also spennithorne-demon-co-uk, Helen). Tim Green poppyfields-co-uk, lime Bounced ack. fran McGuinness mcg.gsy-demon-co,uk, fran Invalid address (contains ','). Thelma Good good1-demon-c-co-uk, thelma Bounced ack. Mercy Morris dial-pipex-com, Mercy Bounced ack. Rex Bradley brad-demon-co-uk, rex Invalid address (' ' after '@'). ====================================================================== RATIONALE: Postings have been made to the group in the past that have not been of relevance to gardening in the UK. These postings have sometimes resulted in extended and multiple threads that have provided excessive distraction and / or noise. The modified charter is intended to make it clearer what is on-topic for the group. The modified charter was formed after extensive discussion within the group and has been posted to the group a number of times since then without adverse comment. It has also been available on the web (albeit for a shorter period) without adverse comment. THE GROUP: old:uk.rec.gardening To discuss gardening topics of interest in the UK new:uk.rec.gardening To discuss gardening topics relevant to the UK THE CHARTER: old:To discuss gardening questions and share tips on- Weeds, flowers, shrubs, trees, fruit and veg., lawns, beneficial insects and animals, pests and diseases, soils, composting, design, location, situation, seasons/times, hard structures (paths, greenhouses, cloches, rockeries), tools and materials. new:To discuss gardening issues relevant to the UK. These will include flowers, shrubs, trees, fruit & vegetables, lawns, houseplants, beneficial insects & animals, soils, composting, design, location, situation, seasons/times, hard structures (paths, greenhouses, cloches, rockeries), ponds, tools & materials, weeds and pests & diseases. This is not meant to be an exhaustive list. In the absence of more appropriate, geographically specific newsgroups, discussion of gardening in Eire, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man will also be welcome. Because there are climatic, legal, cultural and other differences, discussion of gardening in other parts of the world is OFF TOPIC (there are other regional gardening newsgroups, and the global rec.gardens, one of which may be more appropriate). Please note that this exclusion relates to subject matter, not people, and posters from around the globe will be welcome to participate in or initiate discussion of UK-relevant topics. Specifically, please remember that there is no direct correlation between US climate zones and the climate of the UK. BINARIES: new:All posts should be in plain ASCII text. The posting of all binaries (including, for example, pictures, html format text or code, "business cards", software, word processor files) is not welcome. Such material belongs on a web or ftp site, to which a pointer may be posted. ADVERTISING: old:There is to be no advertising on this newsgroup. new:Advertising is not welcome, with the following exceptions: Suppliers of UK-relevant gardening equipment, services or plant material may post a pointer to their website or invitation to request a catalogue. This may not exceed four lines. This may be posted no more often than once every three months. The subject line should begin "AD" or "ADVERT". Participants in discussions may include references to their garden-related business in their .sig (max. four lines). MODERATION (no change): There will be no moderator for this newsgroup. ====================================================================== This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. Jon Ribbens - -- UKVoting. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBNTiKnWOfGXkh8vHZAQG3iwP5AStsqKofFp2qXIFhiw20HqqgCpJGT7Ut r8q4YYJEoZf9QIIYEA6LkVK7OnplnkKzgTpk/Km2zMf2bP9uocVU6Wiuadm1oJkz QowcrapQ4ZGbf9LT562miSn0rLRz6zf2ldTkDdkgVKs8NAq2ucn2QQ1CuXvIyId6 atedmsEg9ms= =93hx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----