17 Apr 1999: Change the UK Usenet Documents Ref: Fasttracking
From: Barry Salter <b.salter@ukvoting.org.uk>
Date: 17 Apr 1999 13:08:11 +0100
Subject: RESULT - Change the UK Usenet Documents Ref: Fasttracking
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.management,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce
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RESULT - Change the UK Usenet Documents Ref: Fasttracking
Summary of results:
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PROPOSAL ONE
Add text to guidelines passed by a majority of 24:5.
PROPOSAL TWO
The four options were: 1: explicitly permit guideline fast-tracking
2: explicitly disallow guideline fast-tracking
Re-Open Discussion
Status Quo
STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo:
Option 1 preferred to Status Quo by 18 votes to 13
Option 2 preferred to Status Quo by 18 votes to 13
Status Quo preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 19 votes to 11
No options beat Status Quo by at least 12 votes, therefore neither
option takes effect and the discussion is not re-opened.
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 28th March 1999
Proponent: Rob Felton <swinny@cix.co.uk>
Primary votetaker: Barry Salter <b.salter@ukvoting.org.uk>
Secondary votetaker: Chris Dickson <c.dickson@ukvoting.org.uk>
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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.management
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The Results:
The results follow below in the following order:
1) Results
2) Particulars of the Vote
3) Votetakers Comments
4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
5) Rationale & Proposed Changes
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RESULTS:
Proposal 1 - Amend "Voting Procedures with the UK hierarchy" Guidelines &
"Group Creation within the UK hierarchy" Guidelines
YES = 24 = 72.7%
NO = 4 = 12.1%
ABSTAIN = 5 = 15.2%
YES beat NO by a majority of 20 votes, this is more than the +12
majority required to beat the status quo.
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Proposal 2 - Allow amendments to the Guidelines to be fast tracked.
RAW PREFERENCES GRID
1 2 SQ ROD
1) Permit fast-track: [n/a] [ 14] [ 18] [ 20]
2) Disallow fast-track: [ 16] [n/a] [ 18] [ 19]
Status Quo: [ 13] [ 13] [n/a] [ 19]
Re-Open Discussion: [ 12] [ 11] [ 11] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 14 votes preferred
option one (permit fast- track) to option two (disallow fast-track) while
12 votes preferred reopening the discussion to option one (permit
fast-track).
However, as none of the options beat Status Quo by twelve or more
preferences, the Condorcet count is irrelevant and Status Quo prevails.
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PARTICULARS OF THE VOTE:
Proposal 1 Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes = 24 votes
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ajtr2~%~cam,ac,uk (Alex Ray)
alex-news~%~oenone,demon,co,uk (Alex D. Baxter)
billyboy~%~gto,net,om (Bill Davies)
c,speed~%~mcc,ac,uk (Claire Speed)
chl~%~clw,cs,man,ac,uk (Charles Lindsey)
Dave,Sparks~%~sisyphus,demon,co,uk (Dave Sparks)
david,mayall~%~ukonline,co,uk (Dave Mayall)
duncan~%~brandane,demon,co,uk (Duncan Dewar)
jezza~%~hotwells,freeserve,co,uk (Jeremy McNeill)
jon,harley~%~warwick,ac,uk (Jon Harley)
marysia~%~jadzia,demon,co,uk (Marysia)
mike~%~tauzero,demon,co,uk (Mike Fleming)
mike~%~tw2,com (Mike Henry)
ncf~%~borve,demon,co,uk (Neil Fernandez)
pb10003~%~cus,cam,ac,uk (Paul Bolchover)
peet~%~dircon,co,uk (Pete Humble)
richard~%~corixia,demon,co,uk (Richard Ashton)
richard~%~turnpike,com (Richard Clayton)
robbie~%~arrakis,nu (Robbie Irvine)
swfb~%~bokop,win-uk,net (S.W.F. Borthwick)
swinny~%~cix,co,uk (Rob Felton)
tgold~%~panix,com (Anthony R. Gold)
tmf~%~ecs,soton,ac,uk (Tim Forcer)
wish~%~dumain,demon,co,uk (Bill Hay)
Voted No = 4 votes
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alex,dawson~%~uea,ac,uk (Alex Dawson)
craig~%~poxon,org (Craig Poxon)
merlin~%~netlink,co,uk (Darren Wyn Rees)
vote-uk~%~kholdan,snafu,de (Tobias Erle)
Abstained = 5 votes
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amn~%~ubik,demon,co,uk (Anthony Naggs)
andyrobts~%~zetnet,co,uk (Andy Roberts)
eaking~%~ulape,demon,co,uk (Edward King)
neilc~%~wallaby,cc (Neil Crellin)
sjfb~%~cirra,com (SJFBeckwith)
Invalid Votes = 0 votes
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NONE
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Proposal 2 Final Vote Ack
The preference legend is an alternative visual interpretation of each
vote; options joined by an = were given equal preference; all items to the
left of a > were preferred to all items on the right of it.
Re-Open Discussion ------+
Status Quo -----+|
Option 2 ----+||
Option 1 ---+||| Preference
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ajtr2~%~cam,ac,uk (Alex Ray) 1432 1 > R > S > 2
alex-news~%~oenone,demon,co,uk (Alex D. Baxter) 4123 2 > S > R > 1
alex,dawson~%~uea,ac,uk (Alex Dawson) 4132 2 > R > S > 1
amn~%~ubik,demon,co,uk (Anthony Naggs) 3214 S > 2 > 1 > R
andyrobts~%~zetnet,co,uk (Andy Roberts) 4123 2 > S > R > 1
billyboy~%~gto,net,om (Bill Davies) 1--- 1 > 2 = S = R
c,speed~%~mcc,ac,uk (Claire Speed) 1423 1 > S > R > 2
chl~%~clw,cs,man,ac,uk (Charles Lindsey) 1243 1 > 2 > R > S
craig~%~poxon,org (Craig Poxon) 4421 R > S > 1 = 2
Dave,Sparks~%~sisyphus,demon,co,uk (Dave Sparks) 4123 2 > S > R > 1
david,mayall~%~ukonline,co,uk (Dave Mayall) 1423 1 > S > R > 2
duncan~%~brandane,demon,co,uk (Duncan Dewar) 3132 2 > R > 1 = S
eaking~%~ulape,demon,co,uk (Edward King) 4132 2 > R > S > 1
jezza~%~hotwells,freeserve,co,uk (Jeremy McNeill) 2134 2 > 1 > S > R
jon,harley~%~warwick,ac,uk (Jon Harley) 123- 1 > 2 > S > R
marysia~%~jadzia,demon,co,uk (Marysia) 2134 2 > 1 > S > R
merlin~%~netlink,co,uk (Darren Wyn Rees) --12 S > R > 1 = 2
mike~%~tauzero,demon,co,uk (Mike Fleming) 1423 1 > S > R > 2
mike~%~tw2,com (Mike Henry) 4132 2 > R > S > 1
ncf~%~borve,demon,co,uk (Neil Fernandez) 312- 2 > S > 1 > R
neilc~%~wallaby,cc (Neil Crellin) 1423 1 > S > R > 2
pb10003~%~cus,cam,ac,uk (Paul Bolchover) 3124 2 > S > 1 > R
peet~%~dircon,co,uk (Pete Humble) 1422 1 > S = R > 2
richard~%~corixia,demon,co,uk (Richard Ashton) 1432 1 > R > S > 2
richard~%~turnpike,com (Richard Clayton) 4132 2 > R > S > 1
robbie~%~arrakis,nu (Robbie Irvine) 1234 1 > 2 > S > R
sjfb~%~cirra,com (SJFBeckwith) ---- ABSTAIN
swfb~%~bokop,win-uk,net (S.W.F. Borthwick) 1432 1 > R > S > 2
swinny~%~cix,co,uk (Rob Felton) 1-2- 1 > S > 2 = R
tgold~%~panix,com (Anthony R. Gold) 4123 2 > S > R > 1
tmf~%~ecs,soton,ac,uk (Tim Forcer) 1324 1 > S > 2 > R
vote-uk~%~kholdan,snafu,de (Tobias Erle) 3241 R > 2 > 1 > S
wish~%~dumain,demon,co,uk (Bill Hay) 2134 2 > 1 > S > R
Note : - = Abstain/No Preference, S = Status Quo,
R = Re-Open Discussion
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Votetakers Comments:
The vote ran fairly smoothly apart from a couple of people neglecting to
put their name and address on the ballot paper. They did, however, rectify
the situation when they received the ACK.
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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in
the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting
The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce.
Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.
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RATIONALE: (including Summary of Discussion)
The following proposals seek to allow multiple proposal documents to be
issued for amending the guidelines, and then seeking fast tracking of
certain proposals & votes on other proposals.But also gives the option
that all changes to any of these documents must automatically be voted
upon.
And also bring all of the documents in line with the UK Usenet Committee
Guidelines.
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PROPOSALS:
Proposal 1 - Amend "Voting Procedures with the UK hierarchy" Guidelines &
"Group Creation within the UK hierarchy" Guidelines
Add following "Rule Changes" section to the end of each document
ADD:
Rule Changes
Any changes to these rules, or those in the companion documents, shall be
proposed in an RFD in accordance with the GUIDELINES FOR GROUP CREATION
WITHIN THE UK HIERARCHY, insofar as they are applicable. RFDs for rule
changes shall be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.management, and
this will be the definitive record of discussion.
Proposal 2 - Allow amendments to the Guidelines to be fast tracked.
Option 1:
Section 1 - Amend "THE UK USENET COMMITTEE" Guidelines
Rule Changes Section
REPLACE
If the change is trivial, or an obvious consensus has emerged, then the
"fast track" method may be invoked. However, if a petition to have a Vote
is received from 4 or more people, then the matter shall be decided by
vote.
WITH
If the change is trivial, or an obvious consensus has emerged, then the
"fast track" method may be requested for one or more of the proposal(s) in
the RFD. However, if a petition to have a Vote is received from 4 or more
people, then the matter shall be decided by a vote.
Section 2 - Amend "Voting Procedures with the UK hierarchy" Guidelines &
"Group Creation within the UK hierarchy" Guidelines
ADD:
If the change is trivial, or an obvious consensus has emerged, then the
"fast track" method may be requested for one or more of the proposal(s) in
the RFD. However, if a petition to have a Vote is received from 4 or more
people, then the matter shall be decided by a vote.
Option 2:
Section 1 - Amend "THE UK USENET COMMITTEE" Guidelines
Rule Changes Section
REPLACE
If the change is trivial, or an obvious consensus has emerged, then the
"fast track" method may be invoked. However, if a petition to have a Vote
is received from 4 or more people, then the matter shall be decided by
vote.
WITH
Any proposed change to this document should be decided by a vote.
Section 2 - Amend "Voting Procedures with the UK hierarchy" Guidelines &
"Group Creation within the UK hierarchy" Guidelines
ADD:
Any proposed change to this document should be decided by a vote.
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Barry K A Salter, b.salter@ukvoting.org.uk
Posting as a member of UKVoting
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