08 Nov 1999: uk.people.crossdressing

From: Robbie Irvine <r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:00:39 GMT
Subject: RESULT : Formation of Newsgroup uk.people.crossdressing.
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,alt.support.crossdressing,alt.fashion.crossdressing


                RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES 

Title of CFV - Formation of Newsgroup uk.people.crossdressing.

Summary of results:

The three options were:

Status Quo (No)
Re-Open Discussion

STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo:

Yes		   preferred to Status Quo by 24 votes to  6
Re-Open Discussion preferred to Status Quo by 17 votes to  4

All options beat Status Quo by at least 12 votes and so continue.

STAGE TWO - Comparison of the remaining options:

Yes preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 22 votes to 9

Yes was preferred to all the other options, therefore the group
uk.people.crossdressing is created with the charter as given below.

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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 18th October 1999.

Proponent: Jeanette <pinknfluffy@btinternet.com>
Votetaker: Robbie Irvine <r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk>

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The Results:

The results follow below in the following order:

1) Results
2) Particulars of the Vote
3) Votetakers Comments
4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
5) Rationale & Proposed Changes

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            Yes    SQ   ROD
       Yes [n/a] [ 24] [ 22]
Status Quo [  6] [n/a] [  4]
       ROD [  9] [ 17] [n/a]

In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were 
cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option 
appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 24 votes preferred 
creation of the group to Status Quo while 17 votes preferred reopening 
the discussion to Status Quo.  


     Yes   ROD
Yes [n/a] [ 13]
ROD [-13] [n/a]

In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were 
cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option 
appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were 
cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the 
option appropriate to the number's row. For instance, 13 more people 
preferred creating the group to Re-Opening the Discussion than 
preferred Re-Opening the Discussion to creating the group.  

As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive,
creating the group was preferred to all other options and hence wins the

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Formation of Newsgroup uk.people.crossdressing Final Vote Ack

                                             Re-Open Discussion --------\
                                                Status Quo (No) -------\|
                                         Create the group (Yes) ------\||
{R}namesunshine@tm (Richard Ashton)                                   312
1999-10-votenamejh-c@demon@co@uk (Jim Hill)                           312
alex@fosternamezetnet@co@uk (Niles)                                   133
andrewnamepeek-a-boo@demon@co@uk (Andrew Stoker)                      312
andynamepigsonthewing@demon@co@uk (Andy Mabbett)                      321

arkenamedircon@co@uk (Richard Kennaway)                               132
barbaranamehallclose@demon@co@uk (Barbara)                            123
cdvotenamejester@nu (Andy Brown)                                      231
chrisnamehansenhome@demon@co@uk (Christian Hansen)                    122
Class67nametinyonline@co@uk (Jimmy)                                   1AA

clivenamecmartin@demon@co@uk (Clive Martin)                           132
deeceenameangelfire@com (Dee Coveran)                                 132
drnamebrowser@demon@co@uk (Dr John Bett)                              1AA
fulleraaronnameukonline@co@uk (Aaron Fuller)                          1AA
GeorginaSymesnamegeorgem@free-online@co@uk (Georgina Symes)           1AA
heather_dnamebigfoot@com (Heather D)                                  132
jamesnamesfgiants22@freeserve@co@uk (James Farrar)                    AA1
jeangenienamecwcom@net (JeanGenie)                                    1AA
kakenameox@compsoc@net (Kate L Pugh)                                  321
karen@fergusonnamedial@pipex@com (Karen Ferguson)                     132

lorrainenamepetery@demon@co@uk (Lorraine Taylor)                      1AA
matthewnamecalmeilles@demon@co@uk (Matthew Malthouse)                 122
mharveynameargonet@co@uk (M)                                          132
mikenametw2@com (Mike Henry)                                          132
P@J@Leakenamedurham@ac@uk (Paul Leake)                                231

pinknfluffynamebtinternet@com (Jeanette)                              132
$simon$namestar-one@org@uk (Simon Gray)                               A21
steffnamesebyte@clara@co@uk (Stephanie Elliot)                        132
tflnamepsp@co@uk (Thomas Lee)                                         1AA
tinanameamorous@com (Tina Read)                                       132
vote-uknamekholdan@snafu@de (Tobias Erle)                             132

A = Abstain/No preference stated

Disallowed Votes:

anon7bdcnamenyx@net (Nikita) - Anonymous e-mail address
csquarenamepobox@co@uk - No name on ballot paper

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Votetakers Comments:

A simple vote with little to distinguish it apart from the fact that I
killed my machine moving house during the count. I eventually had to ask
someone else in UKVoting could count them while I rebuilt my machine at
home, I thank Barry Salter for this great favour. I also apologise to the
proponent who has been very restrained in waiting so long for the

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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. 
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf 
of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.  

The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted 
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:


The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce.  Allegations of irregularity should be sent to

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Postings to existing groups covering crossdressing issues are 
dominated by US based contributors covering the US scene. The 
purpose of this newsgroup, therefore, is to provide a supportive,
informative and friendly environment dedicated to and relevant to
UK based crossdressers.

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This summary of discussion has been supplied by the votetaker and
agreed to by the proponent.

There have been a number of questions raised during the RFD's
the proponent feels that they have been answered sufficiently and
any that the proponent hasn't answered are because of the pedantry
nature of the people asking for further clarification on what he 
feels is an adequate charter. The proponent was happy to take 
on board the change of name suggested in the first RFD though.

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This newsgroup provides a supportive, informative and friendly 
environment for UK based crossdressers i.e. individuals who for any
number of reasons dress at any time  in clothes normally associated
with individuals of a gender other than their own.


Articles posted to this newsgroup should be relevant to members of 
this community or about the newsgroup itself.

Announcements concerning fashion, support group meetings, important
events and transcribed news articles of interest to crossdressers are
allowed and encouraged.

Monthly posting of personal advertisements, not otherwise excluded
herein, are allowed provided the individual is based in the UK. New
individuals to the group are encouraged to post a short introduction
about themselves and their situation.

Posting monthly pointers to websites of interest to the crossdressing
community in general is also allowed.


Personal attacks, sexual come-ons, obscene language, works of fiction,
commercial advertisements, trolls, flames and general "spam" are 
strictly prohibited.

Especially forbidden is the open condemnation of crossdressing or any
transgendered lifestyle.

The posting of binaries (pictures, programs, sound files - generally
anything encoded for posting purposes) is prohibited. Binaries should
be posted to a newsgroup in the alt.binaries.* hierarchy.

Articles posted in response to articles of questionable topicality are
also deemed to be off-topic. Off topic articles should be ignored.

Articles violating this charter shall be considered to be usenet abuse
and treated as such.


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