Path: oaktree.co.uk!ewrotcd!feed-ewrotcd!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!join.news.uk.uu.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Robbie Irvine Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,alt.support.crossdressing,alt.fashion.crossdressing Subject: RESULT : Formation of Newsgroup uk.people.crossdressing. Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:00:39 GMT Sender: control@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Approved: Charles Lindsey acting as control Message-ID: X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 943445560 mail2news:9915 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!serenity.mcc.ac.uk!nessie.mcc.ac.uk!clw.cs.man.ac.uk Lines: 269 Xref: oaktree.co.uk uk.net.news.announce:1559 uk.net.news.config:78662 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Title of CFV - Formation of Newsgroup uk.people.crossdressing. Summary of results: =================== The three options were: Yes Status Quo (No) Re-Open Discussion STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo: Yes preferred to Status Quo by 24 votes to 6 Re-Open Discussion preferred to Status Quo by 17 votes to 4 All options beat Status Quo by at least 12 votes and so continue. STAGE TWO - Comparison of the remaining options: Yes preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 22 votes to 9 Yes was preferred to all the other options, therefore the group uk.people.crossdressing is created with the charter as given below. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 18th October 1999. Proponent: Jeanette Votetaker: Robbie Irvine - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Distribution: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,alt.support.crossdressing, alt.fashion.crossdressing - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Particulars of the Vote 3) Votetakers Comments 4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 5) Rationale & Proposed Changes - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS: RAW PREFERENCES GRID Yes SQ ROD Yes [n/a] [ 24] [ 22] Status Quo [ 6] [n/a] [ 4] ROD [ 9] [ 17] [n/a] In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 24 votes preferred creation of the group to Status Quo while 17 votes preferred reopening the discussion to Status Quo. OPPOSITE COMPARISONS GRID Yes ROD Yes [n/a] [ 13] ROD [-13] [n/a] In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the option appropriate to the number's row. For instance, 13 more people preferred creating the group to Re-Opening the Discussion than preferred Re-Opening the Discussion to creating the group. As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive, creating the group was preferred to all other options and hence wins the ballot. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PARTICULARS OF THE VOTE: Formation of Newsgroup uk.people.crossdressing Final Vote Ack Re-Open Discussion --------\ Status Quo (No) -------\| Create the group (Yes) ------\|| ||| {R}namesunshine@tm (Richard Ashton) 312 1999-10-votenamejh-c@demon@co@uk (Jim Hill) 312 alex@fosternamezetnet@co@uk (Niles) 133 andrewnamepeek-a-boo@demon@co@uk (Andrew Stoker) 312 andynamepigsonthewing@demon@co@uk (Andy Mabbett) 321 arkenamedircon@co@uk (Richard Kennaway) 132 barbaranamehallclose@demon@co@uk (Barbara) 123 cdvotenamejester@nu (Andy Brown) 231 chrisnamehansenhome@demon@co@uk (Christian Hansen) 122 Class67nametinyonline@co@uk (Jimmy) 1AA clivenamecmartin@demon@co@uk (Clive Martin) 132 deeceenameangelfire@com (Dee Coveran) 132 drnamebrowser@demon@co@uk (Dr John Bett) 1AA fulleraaronnameukonline@co@uk (Aaron Fuller) 1AA GeorginaSymesnamegeorgem@free-online@co@uk (Georgina Symes) 1AA heather_dnamebigfoot@com (Heather D) 132 jamesnamesfgiants22@freeserve@co@uk (James Farrar) AA1 jeangenienamecwcom@net (JeanGenie) 1AA kakenameox@compsoc@net (Kate L Pugh) 321 karen@fergusonnamedial@pipex@com (Karen Ferguson) 132 lorrainenamepetery@demon@co@uk (Lorraine Taylor) 1AA matthewnamecalmeilles@demon@co@uk (Matthew Malthouse) 122 mharveynameargonet@co@uk (M) 132 mikenametw2@com (Mike Henry) 132 P@J@Leakenamedurham@ac@uk (Paul Leake) 231 pinknfluffynamebtinternet@com (Jeanette) 132 $simon$namestar-one@org@uk (Simon Gray) A21 steffnamesebyte@clara@co@uk (Stephanie Elliot) 132 tflnamepsp@co@uk (Thomas Lee) 1AA tinanameamorous@com (Tina Read) 132 vote-uknamekholdan@snafu@de (Tobias Erle) 132 A = Abstain/No preference stated Disallowed Votes: anon7bdcnamenyx@net (Nikita) - Anonymous e-mail address csquarenamepobox@co@uk - No name on ballot paper - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Votetakers Comments: A simple vote with little to distinguish it apart from the fact that I killed my machine moving house during the count. I eventually had to ask if someone else in UKVoting could count them while I rebuilt my machine at home, I thank Barry Salter for this great favour. I also apologise to the proponent who has been very restrained in waiting so long for the results. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RATIONALE - --------- Postings to existing groups covering crossdressing issues are dominated by US based contributors covering the US scene. The purpose of this newsgroup, therefore, is to provide a supportive, informative and friendly environment dedicated to and relevant to UK based crossdressers. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION - --------------------- This summary of discussion has been supplied by the votetaker and agreed to by the proponent. There have been a number of questions raised during the RFD's the proponent feels that they have been answered sufficiently and any that the proponent hasn't answered are because of the pedantry nature of the people asking for further clarification on what he feels is an adequate charter. The proponent was happy to take on board the change of name suggested in the first RFD though. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PROPOSED CHARTER - ---------------- This newsgroup provides a supportive, informative and friendly environment for UK based crossdressers i.e. individuals who for any number of reasons dress at any time in clothes normally associated with individuals of a gender other than their own. ON-TOPIC Articles posted to this newsgroup should be relevant to members of this community or about the newsgroup itself. Announcements concerning fashion, support group meetings, important events and transcribed news articles of interest to crossdressers are allowed and encouraged. Monthly posting of personal advertisements, not otherwise excluded herein, are allowed provided the individual is based in the UK. New individuals to the group are encouraged to post a short introduction about themselves and their situation. Posting monthly pointers to websites of interest to the crossdressing community in general is also allowed. OFF TOPIC Personal attacks, sexual come-ons, obscene language, works of fiction, commercial advertisements, trolls, flames and general "spam" are strictly prohibited. Especially forbidden is the open condemnation of crossdressing or any transgendered lifestyle. The posting of binaries (pictures, programs, sound files - generally anything encoded for posting purposes) is prohibited. Binaries should be posted to a newsgroup in the alt.binaries.* hierarchy. Articles posted in response to articles of questionable topicality are also deemed to be off-topic. Off topic articles should be ignored. Articles violating this charter shall be considered to be usenet abuse and treated as such. END CHARTER. Newsgroups line: uk.people.crossdressing Support and info for UK based cross-dressers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBODvTW2OfGXkh8vHZAQEYxQP+MR4b9N39C3FJgNJvGYS61RvI4SUy15TU FCUzkxWsulpGPOilQZstGxsR85N7Bo/X5KTLZHZQieDwqpKOm3w1h1AW742OkrBZ QH51/7RRYa4xDtJ+qAYhdPKzbYYZPNF5dNobJ7mmNJkFh/fTqvzj+mwUKRK4CDGC 6/7omGWDzMc= =qSWI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- robbie@arrakis.nu <*> robbie@arakeen.demon.co.uk want to know about uk.* ? try www.usenet.org.uk ukvoting webpages http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/