Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.utanet.at!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!130.88.203.18.MISMATCH!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!news.mcc.ac.uk!clerew!clw.cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: Pedt Scragg Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.gardening Subject: RESULT : Create uk.rec.gardening.allotments FAILS 12:26 Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:45:08 +0000 Message-ID: Sender: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Approved: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Lines: 241 Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.net.news.announce:3132 uk.net.news.config:186124 uk.rec.gardening:246795 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments FAILS 12:26 NO beat YES by 14 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 16th March 2004. Proponent : Gary Poston Votetaker : Pedt Scragg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Distribution: uk.net.news.announce uk.net.news.config uk.rec.gardening - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period 2) Results 3) Individual Vote Details 4) Votetakers Comments 5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 6) Rationale 7) Newsgroups Line 8) Proposed Charter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUMMARY OF MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE VOTING PERIOD 61 emails were received at the ballot request address: 52 : Ballot requests 6 : Viruses/worms 1 : Query from a voter 1 : Test by the votetaker 1 : Test by a voter (see Votetaker comments) 56 emails were received at the vote submission address: 38 : Valid votes 2 : Votes later resubmitted (see Votetaker comments) 1 : Valid vote superseded by a later vote 1 : Invalid vote (see Votetaker comments) 13 : Votetaker queries and subsequent correspondence 1 : Test by the Votetaker 20 emails were received at the vote query address: 18 : Queries and subsequent correspondence 2 : Junk/viruses/worms. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RESULTS: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments YES : 12 votes NO : 26 votes Total : 38 votes NO beat YES by 14 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS Voted Yes - 12 votes - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Norton chris@norton?zetnet@co@uk YES Dan Keeley dan?dankeeley@co@uk YES Dangerous sjalldred?tiscali@co@uk YES David Uri daviduri?bigfoot@com YES Graham Carr gpcarr?ntlworld@com YES Martin Sykes martin?sykesm@globalnet@co@uk YES Melanie McCluskey melanie-mccluskey?tesco@net YES Neil Ellwood carl@ellwood2?btinternet@com YES Robert mail?burnley27@fsnet@co@uk YES Shazzbat shservices?shservices@fsnet@co@uk YES The Barsteward thebarsteward?freeuk@com YES Whingin' Pom whinginpom?donotreply@com YES Voted No - 26 votes - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alan R Williams alanrw?cs@man@ac@uk NO Bazza bazzas?btinternet@com NO Chris French ngvote?familyfrench@co@uk NO Dave Mason xurga?sarnie@org@uk NO David WE. Roberts wibble?talk21@com NO Derek Turner frderek?cesmail@com NO Franz Heymann franz@heyman?btopenworld@com NO Jane jane?moonrose@demon@co@uk NO Janet Baraclough janet@and@john?zetnet@co@uk NO John Rye jrye?ukonline@co@uk NO Jon Rouse jon?timewarp@demon@co@uk NO Jon Smith basketballjones?lycos@co@uk NO Martinp martinp?wanadoo@nl NO Max Wright maxwright?wys-systems@demon#co#uk NO Neil Jones Neil@Jones?t-mi@com NO Pete Fenelon pete?fenelon@com NO Peter Smyth psmyth?ukf@net NO Rhiannon S mddestiny?aol@com NO Richard Ashton {R}?semolina@org NO Robert Harvey bobharvey?europe@com NO RogerH rogerh?clara@co@uk NO Sally Thompson sally@thompson?btinternet@com NO Stephen Gower socks-netnews?earth@li NO Stuart Baldwin stuart?boxatrix@co@uk NO Tony Anson horrid@squeak?zetnet@co@uk NO Wm tcnw61?tarrcity@demon@co@uk NO Invalid - 1 vote - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Harvey harveytm?lineone@net (See Votetaker comments) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Votetaker Comments: Very straightforward to count the vote as nearly all voters followed the instructions in the Ballot Paper and queries by the votetaker were, with one exception, answered quickly and helpfully by the voter. Thank you. The vote was a little less straightforward in other respects. A few voters suffered email delays after Ballot Papers or Acknowledgements were issued and generated some of the correspondence noted in the summary - one voter being unfortunate enough to suffer delays to both. The test ballot request, noted under email received, was due to a voter asking someone to see if the ballot request address was working, rather than contacting the Votetaker, after a Ballot Paper was requested to a spamtrapped address. Voters are reminded that you need to use a working email address for the reply to receive Ballot Papers or if contacting the Votetaker. Two ballot papers were requested to be resubmitted for technical reasons. Both voters submitted valid votes at the 2nd attempt. Invalid vote: The one exception mentioned in the initial paragraph of these comments was "Mike Harvey" who failed to make any reply to a query by the Votetaker. There was no alternative other than to disallow the vote. The Votetaker was pleasantly surprised that the email address for this vote remained remarkably junk and virus/worm free. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control at usenet.org.uk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RATIONALE: I have searched to find many allotment web sites and found that if this group was opened it would allow all allotment (and would be) allotment holders to to exchange views in one convenient place. This in turn would give valued exchange of views by every visitor. To also pick up tips and sometimes tricks into allotment gardening. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEWSGROUPS LINE uk.rec.gardening.allotments Allotments holders group - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PROPOSED CHARTER: uk.rec.gardening.allotments To discuss allotment issues, planting times, tips on gardening, pest controls and general allotment posts. Advertising Advertising is forbidden Binaries & Formatting Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. 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