Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!feed1.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!news.xenopsyche.net!news.mcc.ac.uk!clerew!clw.cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: David Mahon Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.people.support.bullying Subject: Result: Remove uk.people.support.bullying Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:31:02 +0100 Message-ID: Sender: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Approved: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Lines: 218 Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.net.news.announce:3151 uk.net.news.config:188746 uk.people.support.bullying:2113 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Remove uk.people.support.bullying Only one option beat SQ by more than 12 votes. Accordingly, this option (ROD) is the winner. The proponent indicated prior to the ballot that the re-opened discussion would be with a new proponent. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Voting closed at 23:59:59 Sat, 17th April 2004. Proponent: Paul Cummins Votetaker: David Mahon - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Distribution: uk.net.news.announce uk.net.news.config uk.people.support.bullying - --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period 2) Result 3) Individual Vote Details 4) Votetakers Comments 5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 6) Proposal 7) Rationale 8) Newsgroups Line - --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY OF MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE VOTING PERIOD 42 messages were received to the voting address, of which: 38 were valid votes 1 was a vote deemed invalid (voter re-voted correctly) 1 was a vote deemed invalid (voter did not re-vote) 2 were tests by the votetaker - --------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULT: Remove unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.regulation This was a multi-option vote. Multi-option votes in the uk.* hierarchy are decided by a two-stage procedure. All options are first compared with votes for the status quo, and any which are not preferred to SQ by the required margin of 12 votes are eliminated. The remaining options, if any, are then evaluated by the Condorcet method. Option A: Remove uk.people.support.bullying Option B: Status Quo (do not remove group) Option C: Re-Open Discussion with a different proponent Raw preferences table: A B C A n/a 14 11 B 24 n/a 12 C 25 25 n/a STAGE 1 Option B (SQ) beat Option A (Remove) by 24 votes to 14 Option C (ROD) beat Option B (SQ) by 25 votes to 12 Option C (ROD) is the only option to beat SQ by 12 or more votes. Option C is the only option to proceed to the second stage and is therefore the winner. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS The votes column shows the ranking given by the voter to each option. For example: A B C voter 1 1 2 3 voter 2 - 2 1 Voter 1 ranked option A first, then B, and then C. Voter 2 ranked Option C first, then B, and left the other options unranked. Re-Open Discussion -----------------------------\ | Status Quo -----------------------------\ | | | Remove -------------------------\ | | | | | A B C {R} {newsnospam}@semolina.gro 3 2 1 Alan Fleming af@etrigan.gro 3 2 1 Alasdair Baxter llb@llb.em.ku 3 1 3 Alex Holden votes@alex-holden.oc.ku - 1 - Andrew Norman spam.andrew@ajnorman.gro 3 1 2 anonimulo anonimulo2003@yahoo.moc 1 3 2 Barry Dorrans barryd@idunno.gro - 2 1 Blippie webmaster@blippie.gro.ku 1 3 2 Bob Eager rde42@spamcop.ten 3 1 2 Brian Brian@bjforster.force9.oc.ku 3 2 1 Chris Croughton chris@keristor.gro 3 2 1 Clive Feather clive@davros.gro 1 3 2 Dave Hillam brillig@dsl.pipex.moc 3 1 2 Dave J. requiem@freeuk.moc 3 2 1 Dave Mason xupsb@sarnie.gro.ku 3 1 2 Dave Mayall david.mayall@ukonline.oc.ku 3 1 2 Dave Millard dave@focus3.uk.moc 3 2 1 David Boothroyd david@election.demon.oc.ku 1 2 3 Dick Gaughan dickg@dickalba.demon.oc.ku 3 1 2 Ebb Chernobyl ebb.chernobyl@softhome.ten 1 3 2 Geoff Berrow xupsb@ckdog.oc.ku 3 2 1 Graham Drabble graham.drabble@lineone.ten 2 3 1 JBM jpb8@duke.ude 1 3 2 jcw jcw43@cam.ca.ku 1 3 2 John Bean john@waterfoot.ten 3 1 2 kat kat.news@ntlworld.moc 3 2 1 Liz Carnell help@bullying.oc.ku 1 - - Michael Parry michaelj.parry@ntlworld.moc 3 1 2 paul {voter}@watman.clara.oc.ku 3 2 1 Paul Cummins paul@cummins.ei.ue.gro 1 - 2 Paul Harper paul@harper.ten 3 1 2 Pete Fenelon pete@fenelon.moc 3 2 1 Peter Smyth psmyth@ukf.ten 1 3 2 Philip Powell philip@blencathra.gro.ku - 2 1 Richard Clayton richard@highwayman.moc 2 3 1 Tez Burke burkesworks@lineone.ten 3 2 1 The Barsteward thebarsteward@freeuk.moc 1 3 2 Wm tcnw61@tarrcity.demon.oc.ku 2 3 1 Paul C. Dickie pcd@bozzie.demon.oc.ku INVALID (see below) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Votetakers Comments: A fairly straightforward vote, which appears to be a pleasant change. Two votes were deemed invalid because the acknowledgements were bounced by their intended recipients: One voter got in touch to enquire where his acknowledgement had gone, as is recommended. He subsequently re-voted, this time accepting the ensuing acknowledgement. The other voter did not get in touch to enquire about his lack of acknowledgement. He did not attempt to re-vote. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk - --------------------------------------------------------------------- PROPOSAL: uk.people.support.bullying =================================================================== RATIONALE: Remove uk.people.support.bullying The group uk.people.support.bullying was formed in an environment of dispute and harassment. Despite the fine purposes of the group, it has descended into a group for personal attacks on the original proponent, often from anonymous posters who have no interest in the Chartered purpose for the group. Furthermore, despite suggestions from others that an RFD would be raised to moderate the group, this has not come to fruition. This group has severely lost its way and purpose, and should be removed. =================================================================== NEWSGROUPS LINE uk.people.support.bullying discussion of bullying and its effects =================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBQIboIGOfGXkh8vHZAQEaegP+NqpUEObckFoVSf80w25PCTct7QXvOAxi NLGVjsHt+bSMuI6sik6GhjS5w38FuGQf3wnDNSfgC+K0NzEgGsfdPJpNl4yLCC5w k17GqyymaSQcXiuq4hGLZH/rZFpO2swemBWqLYlKQJSLH2NF0sD/XlwcuRuNELnF Eiqezysu2tU= =qxnx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----