Path: mercury.nildram.net!lon1-news.nildram.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!hirsch.in-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!host81-144-118-176.midband.mdip.bt.NET!not-for-mail From: Barry Salter Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config Subject: RESULT: Create newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation FAILS 29:24 Followup-To: uk.net.news.management Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:58 +0000 Lines: 239 Sender: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Approved: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-144-118-176.midband.mdip.bt.net (81.144.118.176) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1076382752 38413934 I 81.144.118.176 ([99345]) X-Orig-Path: clerew!clw.cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail Xref: mercury.nildram.net uk.net.news.announce:671 uk.net.news.config:55771 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation FAILS 29:24 YES beat NO by a majority of 5 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 2nd February 2004. Proponent: Richard Ashton <{R} semolina org> Votetaker: Barry Salter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Distribution: uk.net.news.announce uk.net.news.config - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period 2) Results 3) Individual Vote Details 4) Votetakers Comments 5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 6) Rationale 7) Newsgroups Line 8) Proposed Charter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUMMARY OF MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE VOTING PERIOD 71 messages were received to the Ballot Request Address, of which: 67 were valid Ballot Requests 4 were virus-infected messages 58 messages were received to the Voting Address, of which: 55 were valid Votes 3 were valid Votes subsequently superseded by the Voter 121 messages were received to the Votetaker's Address, of which: 121 were warnings of viruses intercepted by the company hosting the votetaker's domain - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RESULTS: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation YES : 29 votes NO : 24 votes ABSTAIN : 2 votes Total : 55 votes YES beat NO by a majority of 5 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS Voted Yes - 29 votes - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ annabel$amsmyth#demon#co#uk Annabel Smyth anonimulo2003$yahoo#com anonimulo burkesworks$lineone#net Tez Burke cfv_unnm$crowfam#org#uk Jim Crowther craig$craigoldfield#co#uk Craig dave$focus3#uk#com Dave Millard daviduri$bigfoot#com David Uri dmahon_vote_xmod01$amigo#co#uk David Mahon dmh$dmh#org#uk Dave H fred$fredc#demon#co#uk fred hyphen$hyphenologist#co#uk Dave Fawthrop john$waterfoot#org John Bean jongru$btinternet#com The Todal jpb8$duke#edu JBM katnews$ntlworld#com kat news$vmlinuz#org Richard Cohen pedt$dontspame#com Pedt pete_the_gardener$hotmail#com Pete The Gardener philip$blencathra#org#uk Philip Powell requiem$freeuk#com Dave Johnson roger$hayter#org Roger Hayter roy$ellor#vispa#com Roy Ellor somerat$hotmail#com Kim Andrews spam-trap$beeb#net Steve Walker UKvote$lehun#clara#co#uk Alan LeHun unm$good-stuff#co#uk Mark Goodge voting$deepsea#force9#co#uk Iain wanderer$tesco#net Wanderer {pc}$vlaad#co#uk Paul Cummins Voted No - 24 votes - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ adam+usenet$pappnase#co#uk Adam Price andrew$hodgsonfamily#org Andrew Hodgson barryd$idunno#org Barry Dorrans bigfoot$davros#org Anthony R# Gold Brian$bjforster#force9#co#uk Brian chl$clerew#man#ac#uk Charles Lindsey clive$davros#org Clive Feather debbie$cybertheology#net moderator for uk.religion.christian ebb#chernobyl$softhome#net Ebb Chernobyl graham#drabble$lineone#net Graham Drabble neil$chaos#org#uk Neil Matthews owen#rees$tesco#net Owen Rees paul$harper#net Paul Harper pete$fenelon#com Pete Fenelon peter$wpp#ltd#uk Peter Parry ph$anweald#co#uk Patrick Herring psmyth$ukf#net Peter Smyth richard$highwayman#com Richard Clayton robert$chezmarshall#freeserve#co#uk Robert Marshall tcnw61$tarrcity#demon#co#uk Wm tfl$psp#co#uk thomas lee thebarsteward$freeuk#com The Barsteward xmod01$sarnie#org#uk Dave Mason {voter}$watman#clara#co#uk paul Abstained - 2 votes - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ jim$us-lot#org Lt. Cmdr. Jim ukvotes$tinc#org#uk Malcolm Mladenovic - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Votetakers Comments: A reasonably straightforward vote for a change, with the vast majority of voters following the instructions correctly though, disappointingly, some still returned the entire ballot mail with their vote at the bottom rather than deleting the rest of the message as requested, and one voter whose vote had an XML version as well as the plain text. As noted in the mail summary above, only 4 virus-infected mails were received at the ballot request address, but 121 were sent to the address used to post the CFV, though these were all intercepted by Gradwell, so all I received was 121 warning messages. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control at usenet.org.uk. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RATIONALE: The uk.* hierarchy has a number of moderated groups. There is no specific place where moderators, moderated group readers, and other interested parties may discuss matters concerning existing or proposed moderated groups. There needs to be such a place as a discussion of the moderation of a group in the group itself may not be appropriate, or desirable. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEWSGROUPS LINE uk.net.news.moderation Discussion of the moderation of uk.* groups - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PROPOSED CHARTER: uk.net.news.moderation The group may discuss any and all aspects of moderation, including cancellation of posts, of any proposed or existing uk.* groups. Complaints by posters who feel they have been mistreated by moderators are specifically on topic. Other topics may include, but are not limited to, moderation software, moderation rules, selection and election of moderators, moderators responsibilities, moderators regular postings, complaints from aggrieved posters, PGPMoose, multiple moderated groups, etc. Advertising Advertising is forbidden. Binaries & Formatting Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where authentication is important and should be as short as possible. Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some common newsreaders comply with this, read . END CHARTER. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBQCgPFWOfGXkh8vHZAQGv2QP/XuftGf7wTL501NtWde/7odgof5FnZ7wh mrZKTabOZGmJkf1JXzbB81qfl4+jmexIRaOBTjT5XrowcBYiCUVQ2YZGSZSSjK2B uipqvGYRuKGpi1aJEoKAURNQSSXCVEsioOo7/sA1eeQazlgz3CKaI+f+aC0FdAAy MhWJdBpZMe4= =q5u5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----