31 Oct 2012: UK Usenet Committee Elections 2012

From: Barry Salter <bsalter@ukvoting.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:32:53 +0000
Subject: RESULT - UK Usenet Committee Elections 2012
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.management


                        Result of Call for Votes
                   UK Usenet Committee Elections 2012

Due to the continued prevalence of viruses and worms the harvest Usenet
posts for e-mail addresses, all e-mail addresses in these results are
modified to prevent this.


The following people are elected to serve as Open Members of the UK
Usenet Committee until December 2015:

        Clive D. W. Feather
        Matthew Vernon
        Ian Clifton


Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 25th October 2012.

Votetakers for the 2012 UK Usenet Committee Elections:

   Primary: Barry Salter <com2k12-queries (at) ukvotes.southie.me.uk>
 Secondary: Pedt Scragg <p.scragg (at) ukvoting.org.uk>



These results have been posted to the following newsgroups:


The full results follow below in the following order:

1) Information on the Ballot
2) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period
3) Results in Detail
4) Voter List
5) Counted Vote List
6) Votetaker's Comments
7) Voting and Appeal Information
8) Copy of Statements from the CFV


Information on the Ballot 

Voters were asked to rank the following candidates in order of

Ian Clifton                                      Candidate A
Paul Cummins                                     Candidate B
Clive D. W. Feather                              Candidate C
Alan Lee                                         Candidate D
Matthew Vernon                                   Candidate E


Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period

 47 messages were received to the Ballot Request Address, of which:

 46 were valid Ballot Requests
  1 was a test message sent by the votetaker
 42 messages were received to the Voting Address, of which:

 40 were valid and counted votes
  1 was rejected due to the voter submitting their vote via an anonymous
    remailer service
  1 was a test message sent by the votetaker


Results in Detail

The election was conducted using the Single Transferable Vote method of
voting, with the count carried out under the Electoral Reform Society's
1997 (3rd Edition) rules.

The STV analysis is as follows:

UK Usenet Committee Elections 2012

Stage 1

      Total Votes Cast:  41
         Invalid Votes:   1
      Total Valid Vote:  40
Places to be filled +1:   4

So Quota = 40 / 4
Quota = 10.00

First Preferences:

        Ian Clifton :  2
       Paul Cummins :  3
Clive D. W. Feather : 25
           Alan Lee :  0
     Matthew Vernon : 10
Clive D. W. Feather ELECTED
with 25.00
over quota 10.00

Matthew Vernon ELECTED
with 10.00
over quota 10.00

Active Vote: 22.00
Places left +1: 2
Vote required for election now: 10.00

Stage 2

No candidates can be excluded, so we transfer the largest surplus

Surplus of Clive D. W. Feather

Ian Clifton gets 10 papers
Paul Cummins gets 4 papers.
Alan Lee gets 10 papers.

24 papers transferred.

Total Present Value: 24.00
1 paper non-transferable.

Calculating transfer value: 15.00/24
Papers transferred at 0.62

Ian Clifton now has 8.20 votes.
Paul Cummins now has 5.48 votes.
Alan Lee now has 6.20 votes.
0.12 votes non-transferable.

Active Vote: 19.88
Places left+1: 2
Vote required for election now: 9.94
Stage 3

There are no outstanding surpluses, and Paul Cummins, with 5.48 has
fewest votes and is therefore excluded.

Excluding Paul Cummins

Transferring papers worth 1.00

Ian Clifton gets 3 papers.

Ian Clifton now has 11.20 votes.

Ian Clifton ELECTED
with 11.20
over quota 10.00.


In grid format, this is expressed as follows:

UK Usenet Committee Elections 2012
Number to be elected: 3 (from 5)
Counted votes: 40
Quota for election on first round: 10.00

1st     Stage 2           Stage 3
Pref    T        A        T        A
  2       6.20    8.20      3.00   11.20   Elect    Ian Clifton
  3       2.48    5.48    - 3.00    2.48            Paul Cummins
 25     -15.00   10.00             10.00   Elect    Clive D. W. Feather
  0       6.20    6.20              6.20            Alan Lee
 10              10.00             10.00   Elect    Matthew Vernon

          0.12    0.12              0.12            Non-transferable
 40              40.00             40.00            Totals

Key to grid:

Stage 2 - Surplus of Clive D. W. Feather
Stage 3 - Exclusion of Paul Cummins

T = number of votes transferred at this stage
A = votes for candidate after transfer


Voter List

The following individuals supplied valid votes:

Name                             E-Mail

.m                               nospam#notnominet#name
[.n]                             rainbowmedia#gmail#com
{R}                              {R}#semolina#org
Adam Funk                        a24061a#ducksburg#com
Alan LeHun                       ukvote#lehun#clara#co#uk

Alex Potter                      alex-usenet#ap-consulting#co#uk
Andrew Hodgson                   andrew#hodgsonfamily#org
Andy Burns                       andy#burns#net
Anthony R. Gold                  not-for-mail#ahjg#co#uk
Brian                            Brian#bjforster#force9#co#uk

Charles Lindsey                  chl#clerew#man#ac#uk
Clive D.W. Feather               clive#davros#org
Clive George                     clive#evil-c#co#uk
Colin Rosenstiel                 usenet#rosenstiel#cix#co#uk
crn                              crn#netunix#com

David Damerell                   damerell#chiark#greenend#org#uk
DG                               dg#dickgaughan#co#uk
Graham Drabble                   usenet05#drabble#me#uk
Ian Clifton                      ian.clifton#chem#ox#ac#uk
Ian Jackson                      ijackson#chiark#greenend#org#uk

John Blundell                    jcb.news#ntlworld#com
John Hall                        john_nospam#jhall#co#uk
kat                              katstuff#the-kat#org
Mark Goodge                      mark#good-stuff#co#uk
Matthew Vernon                   matthew#debian#org

Michael Parry                    mjp#crowsnest#co#uk
Mike Causer                      m.r.causer#googlemail#com
Mike Fleming                     mike#tauzero#co#uk
Molly Mockford                   com2012#mollymockford#me#uk
Nick                             Nick.Spam#yahoo#co#uk

Nick Leverton                    nick#leverton#org
Owen Dunn                        owend#chiark#greenend#org#uk
Owen Rees                        owenrees#fastmail#fm
paul                             {voter}#watman#clara#co#uk
Paul Cummins                     paulcummins#tiscali#co#uk

Richard Kettlewell               rjk#greenend#org#uk
Roger Hayter                     roger#hayter#org
Sara Merriman                    saramerriman#blueyonder#co#uk
Tony                             tony#darkstorm#co#uk
Victor Meldrew                   vicmeld#gmail#com


Rejected Votes

Address                          Reason

madrox017-20100401#yahoo#co#uk   Vote submitted via anonymous remailer


Counted Vote List

The guidelines for the UK Usenet Committee Elections stipulate
that the votes of all voters shall be published in such a way that
only the voter can recognise his/her own vote.

The following votes were counted, listed in alphanumeric order of
the Voter ID:

                 Candidate Ranking
   Ballot ID       A  B  C  D  E
================   =============
0a4f6c0d2b372000   4  3  1  5  2
0b228ca644e9d389   3  5  4  2  1
0ca93580c816c1cd   2  5  1  4  3
15562fc87f5af277   3  5  1  4  2
1d9c35f661dba725   3  -  1  -  2

280b55c8f08a2ac9   3  4  1  5  2
29f312caa2da99d9   4  -  1  3  2
2cc4a87cb4ac398a   5  3  1  4  2
3690c3061771c7ec   3  5  2  4  1
3d63eec191b7cb7f   3  5  1  4  2

4e5088465915f7d3   3  4  1  5  2
5823772949baa79e   4  -  3  2  1
5d609c07e4ff555f   5  3  1  4  2
6273286ea1c37e5b   2  5  1  4  3
6807794a0732d1fc   3  5  2  4  1

6a08dcb69b8db2a2   4  5  1  3  2
6dd17b6fdc52e3db   3  -  1  2  4
885689cc59f7407e   3  1  2  4  5
8e564af9faf990ca   4  5  2  3  1
907827ac40b0a61b   4  2  1  3  5

913c1b82150b1245   2  5  1  3  4
978c59d11e500e54   3  5  2  4  1
9b87804157bd46b7   3  -  1  4  2
9e724d332cf1b676   5  4  1  2  3
a5a8b2fa4d8ded56   3  5  2  4  1

a731a26dcbacdf02   4  5  1  3  2
aa4688ff992f91c7   4  5  1  3  2
aeda279769b7e2d4   1  -  2  3  4
b92e90d6036d0ef4   4  5  1  3  2
c78237586a7d52c1   3  -  1  4  2

cbc2eb23cab13579   2  5  4  3  1
cf91afeda7528596   4  5  2  3  1 
d50bd84b0551c414   3  1  2  4  -
d6c55edd184edc1c   2  5  3  4  1
e871f668c89a7746   -  -  1  -  2

ea9d8daa8d779670   1  5  3  4  2
ee09b2bab8f9d5ec   3  1  2  4  -
f37364fa8979f774   4  5  1  3  2
f826f134d138ffcd   -  4  1  2  3
fdba647cd67e14b1   4  5  1  3  2

Key: - = No preference expressed for that candidate

If you wish to check that your vote has been correctly recorded, your
Ballot ID can be found on your ballot paper and your acknowledgement.

It should be noted that the Ballot IDs were issued randomly, and the
sequence here does not match either the order in which ballot papers
were requested or the alphabetical sequence of voter names or email


Votetaker's Comments


Whilst it has been three years since the Committee Elections proceeded
to a vote, the comment that one voter included on their ballot paper
suggests they forgot that if you don't express a preference for a given
candidate, that candidate cannot receive any benefit from your vote.

As noted above, one would be voter submitted their vote (and their
ballot request for that matter) via an anonymous remailer, in clear
breach of the voting instructions. As is the custom in such cases, their
vote was accordingly rejected.

Having been a member of UKVoting for some time now, validation of most
voters was relatively easy, and most of those I didn't immediately
recognise were easily validated as well.

Finally, I'd just like to congratulate Clive, Matthew and Ian on their
election, and offer my commiserations to Paul and Alan.


Barry conducted a model vote and I agree with everything written above.


Voting and Appeal Information

This vote was conducted by neutral third party members of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on
behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.

The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:

The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to

Allegations of irregularity should be sent to the committee via email
to: control (at) usenet (dot) org (dot) uk.


(The information in this and the following section is a copy of that
provided in the CFV)

Definition of Open Class of Membership

Any participant in the uk.* hierarchy qualifies as a candidate in the
Open class.


Application Requirements

Any participant in the uk.* hierarchy qualifies as a nominator for the
Open class.

Any individual may nominate a maximum of three candidates.


Persons retiring from the Committee

In accordance with the Committee Document, the following Open Class
Members have served a full three year term and are deemed to be retiring
from the Committee. They are eligible for re-election.

Graham Drabble
Clive D. W. Feather
Matthew Vernon



Five nominations have been received. The Committee has three vacancies
and therefore an election will be held to fill the three vacancies.

A list of the candidates is below:

Ian Clifton                                      Candidate A
Paul Cummins                                     Candidate B
Clive D. W. Feather                              Candidate C
Alan Lee                                         Candidate D
Matthew Vernon                                   Candidate E

Please find below details of the people who nominated each candidate
(Name & Email Address) and a short statement from each candidate.

Note: In each case, only the names of the first four nominators to
confirm their nomination are listed.


Candidate A

  Name: Ian Clifton
E-Mail: ian (dot) clifton (at) chem (dot) ox (dot) ac (dot) uk


  Name: Paul Cummins
E-Mail: paulcummins (at) tiscali (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: John Hall
E-Mail: john (at) jhall (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Graham Drabble
E-Mail: graham (at) drabble (dot) me (dot) uk

  Name: Matthew Vernon
E-Mail: matthew (at) debian (dot) org

Personal Statement:

Few can deny [1] that Usenet is under intense pressure from other
media at this time in its long history. But I believe it’s a mistake
to think that decline is permanent or demise inevitable. As in many
other aspects of current life, loss of confidence is itself a driver
of shrinking fortune; perhaps we should say, with FDR, "the only thing
we have to fear is fear itself". What’s to be done? I can offer no
quick fix, I think we should just carry on running UK Usenet in a
constructive way, with as optimistic an outlook as we can manage,
short of imbecility. Why me? I have an equable and tolerant
nature, well able to deal with the colourful and highly-strung
characters to be found in UK Usenet. (I wonder, if I win, how soon I’m
going to regret those words.)
[1] I was going to put "no one", but thought better of it - this is
Usenet, after all.


Candidate B

  Name: Paul Cummins
E-Mail: committee (at) gstgroup (dot) co (dot) uk


  Name: Alan Lee
E-Mail: alan (at) darkroom (dot) plus (dot) com

  Name: John Hall
E-Mail: john (at) jhall (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Ian Clifton
E-Mail: ian (dot) clifton (at) chem (dot) ox (dot) ac (dot) uk

  Name: Selena Jones
E-Mail: selena (dot) n (dot) jones (at) gmail (dot) com

Personal Statement:

I have worked in ICT support since 1998, including with such August names
as CIX, Norsk Data and Telewest. I have been a regular and active
participant in the UK hierarchy since around 1999.

Since returning to usenet in 2009 I have tried (and have not always
succeeded) to avoid the errors I made in the past and admit my mistakes,
but also robustly challenge actions by Committee Members and UK Voting
which do not seem to be in the best interest of the UK hierarchy, whilst
supporting their decisions and processes where they ain't broke. People
call me a crank - a name I am proud to accept, as it's a simple tool that
makes revolutions 

If you select me as a committee member, I will offer my judgement, my 
diligence and my experience freely without complaint, and offer the
contrary view whenever dissent is beneficial. 


Candidate C

  Name: Clive D. W. Feather
E-Mail: clive (at) davros (dot) org


  Name: Tony Evans
E-Mail: tony (at) darkstorm (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Colin Rosenstiel
E-Mail: rosenstiel (at) cix (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Matthew Vernon
E-Mail: matthew (at) debian (dot) org

  Name: Paul Cummins
E-Mail: paulcummins (at) tiscali (dot) co (dot) uk

Personal Statement:

For those wondering what you'd get:
* experience of Usenet in general, and the Committee in particular;
* technical knowledge (see RFC 3977);
* a common-sense approach to the unimportance of Usenet;
* the capability to distinguish sensible points from idiot comments;
* the ability to be pedantic for England [1] if necessary [2];
* a world-weary cynicism;
* the ability to recycle previous paragraphs on myself.

Your choice.

[1] I have represented the UK to ISO.
[2] It appears I'm allowed more than one paragraph so long as I stay 
under 15 lines.


Candidate D

  Name: Alan Lee
E-Mail: alan (at) darkroom (dot) plus (dot) com


  Name: Paul Cummins
E-Mail: paul (dot) cummins (at) gstgroup (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: John Hall
E-Mail: john_nospam (at) jhall (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Clive George
E-Mail: clive (at) evil-c (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Ian Clifton
E-Mail: ian (dot) clifton (at) chem (dot) ox (dot) ac (dot) uk

Personal Statement:

I aim to be impartial. It would be nice to have some of the old style 
'netiquette' back in Usenet, which, I'm pretty sure, a lot of posters 
have never known, and unfortunately seems to be rapidly dying off, 
along with the Users.

A number of 'single issue' users have tended to dominate a lot of 
groups in the last few years, maybe we should have a think about usenet 
promotion, which, with,eventually, more users, would drown out the 
shouts from the  vocal minority.

A culling of unused groups is called for too - far too many dead 
groups, so a concentration of fewer groups could lead to healthier 
posting stats for some of the uk.* hierarchies.


Candidate E

  Name: Matthew Vernon
E-Mail: matthew (at) debian (dot) org


  Name: kat
E-Mail: katstuff (at) the-kat (dot) org

  Name: Tony Evans
E-Mail: tony (at) darkstorm (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Clive George
E-Mail: clive (at) evil-c (dot) co (dot) uk

  Name: Ian Clifton
E-Mail: ian (dot) clifton (at) chem (dot) ox (dot) ac (dot) uk

Personal Statement:

I'm Matthew Vernon. I've been reading usenet since around 1998; I 
contribute to several groups within uk.*. My day job's in science, 
though I co-administer a small usenet server in my spare time, as well 
as being a Debian developer.

I've served one term on the UK Usenet Committee. During that time, I 
successfully proposed a clarification of the committee guidelines, and 
have contributed to discussion on the committee list, and in unn*. My 
policy in unn* has been to add to discussion where I feel I have 
something constructive to say, and to try and listen to other points of 
view. I try hard to be civil. If re-elected, I will continue to listen 
and contribute to debate. I see the committee's role as being to 
facilitate the management of uk.* by the uk.* community.

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