09 May 2000: uk.comp.os.win2000
From: Mark Goodge <mark@good-stuff.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:50:03 GMT
Subject: Result: uk.comp.os.win2000 PASSES
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.comp.win95
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Result: uk.comp.os.win2000 PASSES
Summary
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Option A (create group as 'uk.comp.os.win2000') was preferred by a majority
of voters to all other options, and exceeded the +12 margin over Option C
(Status Quo).
Therefore, Option A (create group as 'uk.comp.os.win2000') wins.
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 27th April 2000
Proponent: Thomas Lee <tfl@psp.co.uk>
Votetaker: Mark Goodge <m.goodge@ukvoting.org.uk>
Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.comp.os.win95
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The full results follow below in the following order:
1) Information on the ballot
2) Results
3) Individual Vote Details
4) Votetakers Comments
5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
6) Rationale & Charter
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Information on the ballot
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Votetaker's note: On the ballot paper, I somewhat foolishly numbered the
four options in Section One from 1 to 4. When it came to counting them, I
realised that this makes the results table rather number-heavy, so for the
purposes of presenting the results I have re-labelled them from A to D,
retaining the same order.
The options on the ballot were:
Section One:
A: Create group as 'uk.comp.os.win2000'
B: Create group as 'uk.comp.os.microsoft.win2000'
C: Status Quo (Do not create group)
D: Re-Open Discussion
[A, B, C and D were 1, 2, 3 and 4 respectively on the ballot]
Section Two:
If Option 2 (Create group as 'uk.comp.os.microsoft.win2000')
wins, should the existing group 'uk.comp.os.win95' be renamed
as 'uk.comp.os.microsoft.win95'?
Rename uk.comp.os.win95 : [ ] (YES/NO/ABSTAIN)
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RESULTS
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Brief Results List
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Multi-option votes in the uk.* hierarchy are decided by a two-stage
procedure. All options are first compared with votes for Status Quo (SQ),
and any which are not preferred to SQ by the required margin of 12 votes
are eliminated. The remaining options, if any, are then evaluated by the
Condorcet method.
There were 92 votes cast.
STAGE ONE:
Option A was preferred to SQ (Option C) by a margin of 47
Option B was preferred to SQ (Option C) by a margin of 21
Option D was preferred to SQ (Option C) by a margin of 18
Therefore, all options proceed to a full Condorcet count.
STAGE TWO:
A was preferred to B by 64 votes to 17, with 11 abstentions or equal-rankings.
A was preferred to C by 68 votes to 21, with 3 abstentions or equal-rankings.
A was preferred to D by 71 votes to 19, with 2 abstentions or equal rankings.
Option A (create group as 'uk.comp.os.win2000') is therefore the Condorcet
winner.
As Option A wins Section One, it was not necessary to tally the votes for
Section Two.
Full Condorcet Tables
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Table 1 - Absolute Figures (Raw preferences Grid)
A B C D
A (uk.comp.os.win.2000) [n/a] [ 64] [ 68] [ 71]
B (uk.comp.os.microsoft.win2000 [ 17] [n/a] [ 52] [ 50]
C (Status Quo - do not create group) [ 21] [ 31] [n/a] [ 31]
D (Re-Open Discussion) [ 19] [ 33] [ 49] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 64 votes preferred Option
A to Option B while 19 votes preferred Option D to Option A.
Table 2 - Relative Figures (Opposite Comparison Grid)
A B C D
A (uk.comp.os.win.2000) [n/a] [ 47] [ 47] [ 52]
B (uk.comp.os.microsoft.win2000 [-47] [n/a] [ 21] [ 17]
C (Status Quo - do not create group) [-47] [-21] [n/a] [-18]
D (Re-Open Discussion) [-52] [-17] [ 18] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's column to the option
appropriate to the number's row. For example, 47 more people preferred
Option A to Option B, and 18 more people preferred Option D to Option C.
The winning option in the absolute table is that where all the numbers in
its row are higher than the number in the equivalent position in its
column. The winning option in the relative table is that which has all
positive numbers in its row and all negative numbers in its column. (In
both cases, this is Option A).
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Individual Vote Details
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Notes:
1. Voters were asked to rank the options from 1 (highest) to 4 (lowest).
Equal rankings are allowed, and any unranked options are considered to be
given the lowest possible rating.
2. Voters used a variety of different marks (or lack of them) to indicate
unranked options. Irrespective of the actual character used, all unranked
options have been represented in the table by '-' (dash).
3. The Section One votes column shows the ranking given by the voter to
each option. For example:
ABCD
voter 1 1234
voter 2 -2-1
Voter 1 ranked option A first, then B, then C, then D. Voter 2 ranked
Option D first, then B, and left A and C unranked.
4. The Section 2 votes column has a single letter:
Y = YES
N = NO
A = ABSTAIN
Sections
1 2
Name Email ABCD |
- ---- ----- ---- -
Alan Fleming af.contract/co/gb 3-12 N
Alex D. Baxter alex-news.oenone/demon/co/gb 1234 N
Alex Nichol Alexn.mvps/gro 1243 N
Allan Beetlestone {A}.beetlestone/demon/co/gb 1243 Y
Andrew Hartley andrew.eastupham/freeserve/co/gb 1342 N
Andrew Sayers storm.fallendell/freeserve/co/gb 1243 Y
Andrew Stoker andrew.peek-a-boo/org/gb 1234 N
Andy Mabbett andy.pigsonthewing/demon/co/gb ---- A
Andy Roberts andyrobts.zetnet/co/gb --12 N
Anthony Gold tgold.panix/moc 3312 Y
Barry Dorrans barryd.bann/co/gb 12-- N
Barry Salter gbvotes.salterg/demon/co/gb 1342 N
Ben Whyte cs97bbw2.brunel/ac/gb 1243 Y
Brett Paul Dunbar brett.dimetrodon/demon/co/gb 2121 A
C. Newport crn.netunix/moc 3412 A
Charles F Hankel noos.hankel/freedombird/ten --12 N
Chris Bannister cj.moodog/org/gb 3124 Y
Chris Croughton chris.keris/demon/co/gb --12 N
Craig Hardie craighardie.algatis/moc 2143 A
Darren Wyn Rees merlin.netlink/co/gb --12 Y
Dave Hillam d/hillam.btinternet/moc 1243 Y
Dave Mason dave.lowjobs/co/gb 1243 N
Dave Mayall david/mayall.gbonline/co/gb 1432 N
Dave Sparks Dave/Sparks.sisyphus/demon/co/gb -213 A
DaveMills DaveMills.ravesw/demon/co/gb 1243 Y
David Damerell damerell.chiark/greenend/org/gb 1434 A
David Mahon dmahon.amigo/co/gb 1243 Y
David Wood david.wood2/org/gb 1132 N
Denis F bedfordtlfan.yahoo/moc 1243 N
Denis McMahon denis.pickaxe/demon/co/gb 1243 Y
Dion L Heap dion.homesix/globalnet/co/gb 1423 N
Eddie Bernard edward.ebernard/greatxscape/net 1244 Y
Edward King eaking.ulape/demon/co/gb 11-- A
Gerard Alan Latham gerard.galatham/demon/co/gb 1243 N
glynn bradley glynn.euphony/demon/co/gb 1--- N
Gordon Milner g/milner.blib/demon/co/gb 1243 N
Grant Mason grant/mason.dtn/ntl/moc 1243 Y
Iain Bowen alaric.harlech/demon/co/gb 1342 N
Ian Chard ian.tanagra/demon/co/gb 1432 Y
Ian Jackson ijackson.chiark/greenend/org/gb 1432 Y
James Farrar james.sfgiants22/freeserve/co/gb 1233 Y
J M Kemp james.jmkemp/demon/co/gb 1243 A
J.P. Gilliver john/gilliver.gecm/moc 1323 Y
guy fawkes guy/fawkes.surfbaud/co/gb 1--- N
Jezza jezza.hotwells/freeserve/co/gb 1423 N
Jim Hill vote-win2000.jhc/org/gb 4312 N
John Line jml4.cus/cam/ac/gb 1243 A
John McL johnmcl.benlakeland/cix/co/gb 1243 A
Jon Thomson jon.thomson2273/freeserve/co/gb 3412 N
Keith Brazington keith.quetz/demon/co/gb 4123 Y
Lord Treguard Chris/higham.btinternet/moc 1423 Y
Mark Tyndall mrt102.york/ac/gb 1243 A
Michael Parry michael.cavrdg/demon/co/gb 1243 Y
Mike Fleming mike.tauzero/co/gb 1243 A
Mike Henry mike.tw2/moc 1423 N
Mike Landers plissken.netmocgb/co/gb 12-- N
Nick Regan nick.nregan/co/gb 2143 Y
Andrew Norman nja.le/ac/gb 1--2 N
Owen Rees owenrees.waitrose/moc 4312 Y
Patrick Herring ph.anweald/exnet/co/gb 3412 Y
Paul Smith ozric99.btinternet/moc 1324 N
Pekka P. Pirinen ppp.pirinen/demon/co/gb --12 Y
Peter Murphy pete.ento/demon/co/gb 4312 A
Peter Alfredsen peteralf.fabel/kd 4312 Y
Peter Parry peter.wpp/ltd/gb 2143 N
Philip Hunt phil.mocuno/moc 1-23 A
Phillip Smith phil.nexussft/demon/co/gb 1342 Y
Philip Powell philip.blencathra/demon/co/gb 1243 A
{R} {R}.pink/semolina/gro 4444 A
Rachael Munns vashti+cfv.dream/org/gb 2143 A
red-5 me.red-5/co/gb 1243 N
Richard Kennaway jrk.sys/uea/ac/gb 1--- N
Richard Kettlewell rjk.sfere/greenend/org/gb 3421 N
Richard Lamont richard.stonix/demon/co/gb 3214 Y
Richard Letts richard-vote.illuin/gro 1--2 Y
Richard Rees richardr.gbgateway/ten 1243 A
Rob Baldwin rob.rfbaldwin/fsnet/co/gb 2143 Y
Robbie robbie.gbvote/arrakis/un 1132 A
Rob Jones Rajman.bigfoot/moc 2143 Y
Ron Fitzpatrick ronfitz.btinternet/moc 321- Y
Shane Matthews smatt.1st-legend/co/gb 1--- N
Steve Peake puppet.dial/pipex/moc 1243 N
Steve Peek peek_s.hotmail/moc 1432 Y
Steve Wright steve.wrightnet/demon/co/gb 1233 Y
Stuart Baldwin Stuart.boxatrix/demon/co/gb 1--2 N
Stuart Vessey stuartv.boyznow/ten 1243 Y
Tez Boyes tez.pierrot/co/gb 1243 A
Tim Walls tim.snowgoons/fsnet/co/gb 4123 Y
Thomas Lee tfl.psp/co/gb 1243 N
tobias erle vote-gb.kholdan/snafu/ed 1342 Y
Tony Evans tony.tagman/demon/co/gb 1243 N
William Allen mail.mayfly13/fsnet/co/gb 1423 N
Invalid Votes:
Leo Vegoda leo.lurve/gro - incomplete vote
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Votetaker's Comments
Quite an easy vote for a first-timer - only a few invalid votes, and all
but one of them fixed it after I sent back a reject notice. Most rejects
were due to a missing name and/or email address on the ballot.
Two acks bounced, but these were later resubmitted with valid addresses so
I haven't included them in the invalid votes list.
A couple of people voted as if it was an fptp vote - just one option marked
with an X and the rest left blank. A fair amount of people managed to
mangle the ballot paper a bit - usually due to leaving too many blank
spaces between the [ ]s after inserting their name and address, which made
the lines wrap. One vote arrived in HTML. All of these were counted, but it
would have made automatic parsing rather more difficult had I chosen to do
it that way.
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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf
of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.
The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
<ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting>
The UKVoting web pages can be found at <http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/>
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce.
Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.
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Rationale and Charter from the CFV
RATIONALE: uk.comp.os.win2000
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Windows 2000 was released on February 17th 2000 and is being rolled out
across the world. It has already created a lot of news postings in a
variety of groups. Many of these are less useful for UK users.
The success of the Windows 95 group (uk.comp.win95), and others, shows
that a similar group, focused on Windows 2000 would be useful. The straw
poll supports this view.
CHARTER: uk.comp.os.win2000
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This newsgroup is for the discussion of all aspects of
Microsoft's Windows 2000 operating system with particular
reference to technical issues affecting users of the UK release.
Valid topics include, but are not limited to, hardware
requirements, software compatibility, installation, maintenance
and Internet access.
Windows NT, from which Windows 2000 was derived, and direct
decedents of Windows 2000 are on topic but discussion of the
Windows 9x and Windows 3.xx operating systems and their direct
descendants is specifically excluded.
This newsgroup wishes to be welcoming to new users who may be
unfamiliar both with Windows 2000 and with Usenet etiquette.
Common errors, e.g. articles written in HTML or containing upside
down quoting, should be corrected by experienced users but not
flamed.
The primary language for this newsgroup is English.
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