Path: sn-us!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!easynet-quince!easynet.net!colt.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!harlech.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: David Mahon Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.media.radio.misc,uk.media.radio.bbc-r1 Subject: Result: Create newsgroup uk.media.radio.local PASSES Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:39:37 +0100 Lines: 192 Sender: Iain Bowen as Control Approved: Iain Bowen as Control Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: harlech.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1035356399 10553 158.152.39.156 (23 Oct 2002 06:59:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 06:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Xref: sn-us uk.net.news.announce:3044 uk.net.news.config:149937 uk.media.radio.misc:9769 uk.media.radio.bbc-r1:19001 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.media.radio.local PROPOSAL - Create newsgroup uk.media.radio.local PASSES - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 18th October 2002. Proponent: Andrew Hartley Votetaker: David Mahon - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.media.radio.misc, uk.media.radio.bbc-r1 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Particulars of the Vote 3) Votetakers Comments 4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 5) Rationale, Summary of Discussion & Proposed Charter - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RESULTS: PROPOSAL - Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.media.radio.local UKVoting received 34 submissions to the address dedicated to handling this vote: YES : 19 votes NO : 5 votes ABSTAIN : 5 votes OTHER : 5 (see votetaker comments) Total : 34 YES beat NO by a majority of 14 votes. For passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, this proposal PASSES. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PARTICULARS OF THE VOTE: Name Email Vote Andrew Hartley andy+eastupham#freeserve#uk#co Y Andy Davidson andy+nosignal#org Y Carl Inglis cinglis+yoshiwara#uk#org Y Chris Croughton chris+keristor#org Y David Morris david+davidm#demon#uk#co Y David Uri daviduri+bigfoot#com Y David Worth david+worth3#demon#uk#co Y Denis F zwarniwhoop+yahoo#uk#co N I J Clifton ian+melvin#dp#ox#uk#ac Y Ian Kitching i#m#kitching+apu#uk#ac Y James Farrar londonstatto+yahoo#uk#co A Janice Mulligan jan#mulligan+euroseek#com Y Jezza jezza+hotwells#freeserve#uk#co Y Jon Thomson J#A#Thomson+warwick#uk#ac N kqr kqr2D2+btopenworld#com Y Linz linz+lindsayendell#uk#org A Mark Coxley mark+xcski#com Y Mark Goodge mark+good-stuff#uk#co Y MJ Ray markj+0110+cloaked#freeserve#uk#co Y Molly Mockford molly+mockfords#clara#uk#co Y paul {voter}+watman#clara#uk#co A Paul B paul+streetka#biz Y Pete Fenelon pete+fenelon#com N Peter Smyth psmyth+gmx#net N Philip Powell philip+blencathra#uk#org A Ronan Flood ronan+noc#ulcc#uk#ac Y Scott Taylor taylorscott67+yahoo#uk#co N Spider dipsey-doodle+shaw#ca A Tony Walton tony#walton+sun#uk#co Y - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VOTETAKERS COMMENTS: A straightforward vote with fairly small numbers and a close result. The 5 submissions listed as OTHER were: 3 Testing by votetaker 1 SPAM/UCE 1 Question from voter - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VOTING AND APPEAL GUIDELINES: This vote was conducted by a neutral third party members of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RATIONALE, SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION, NEWSGROUPS LINE AND PROPOSED CHARTER: ================================================================= RATIONALE: - - ---------- There is currently no group for the discussion of local radio in the UK, BBC or commercial. Although this group would not be specific to any station or multiplex (group of stations), there are many programmes that are broadcast across local radio, for example the popular chart on a Sunday afternoon. All programmes will be on topic including programmes broadcast across multiplexes such as GWR (The Mix Network) and the BBC. ================================================================= SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION - - --------------------- Although discussion was sparse, I feel there was enough positive input to warrant a vote stage. A handful of points were made, with the main one being the inclusion of Access radio (a.k.a. community radio) in what would be "on topic" in the group, this was added to the charter and amended in the newsgroups line. ================================================================= NEWSGROUPS LINE - - --------------- uk.media.radio.local Local BBC, Independent and Access radio in the UK. ================================================================= CHARTER - - ------- This group is for the discussion of programmes on local radio in the United Kingdom. All programmes are on topic and include, but are not limited to programmes broadcast on; single Independent stations, single local BBC stations, Access radio (community radio), a multiplex of stations (e.g. The Mix Network, or the BBC). News services on these stations are also on topic. Programmes broadcast on local BBC frequencies after shutdown (e.g. BBC Radio Five Live) should not be discussed in this group, nor should programmes broadcast on national radio stations. Users are advised that there are groups for the discussion of the BBC's national radio stations. Advertising Advertising is forbidden. Binaries & Formatting Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where authentication is important and should be as short as possible. Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some common newsreaders comply with this, read . 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