25 Sep 2001: create uk.local.merseyside
From: Robbie Irvine <r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:50:09 +0100
Subject: RESULT uk.local.merseyside PASSES 31:7
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.nw-england,free.uk.talk.liverpool
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
New Newsgroup uk.local.merseyside PASSES 31:7
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Voting opened Saturday 11 August 2001
Voting Closed Fri 31 August 2001.
Proponent: "Peter Birmingham" <birmo@ic24.net>
Votetaker: "Robbie Irvine" <r.irvine@ukvoting.org.>
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DISTRIBUTION
These results have been posted to:
uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.nw-england
free.uk.talk.liverpool
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RESULTS COUNTING
Valid votes received : 43
Total votes in favour : 31
Total votes against : 7
Total abstentions : 5
The group creation proposal for uk.local.merseyside succeeds.
Votes received in favour (31) exceeded received votes against (7)
by more than the required minimum of twelve votes (31 - 7 = 24).
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THE RESULTS IN FULL
Abstain 5 votes
Graham Drabble graham.drabble#linene,ten a
James Coupe james#zephyr,rog,ku a
Jeffrey Goldberg jeffrey#goldmark.org a
Philip Powell philip#blencathra,rog,ku a
Richard Kettlewell richard+ulm01#sfere.greenend,rog,ku a
against 7 votes
Andrew Stoker andrew#peek-a-boo,rog,ku n
Charles F Hankel hankel#freedombird,ten n
distant distant5939#hotmail,moc n
Jon Thomson jon#thomson2273.freeserve,oc,ku n
Paul Cummins paul#cummins.ie.eu,rog n
Paul Rooney paulvrooney#prooney.fsworld,oc,ku n
six six#screamingeagle.1to1,rog n
for 31 votes
Alex Holden votes#alex-holden,oc,ku y
Alex Threlfall Alex#letsblowitup,moc y
Andrew Wheatley andrew.wheatley#union,rog.za y
Andy Mabbett andy#pigsonthewing,rog,ku y
Bill Muskett bill.muskett#which,ten y
Brian Barlow brian#brianb.u-net,moc y
Chopsocky mail#chopsocky.fsnet,oc,ku y
David Jackson david#middleroom,dcu y
Denis Mcmahon denis#pickaxe,dcu y
Eddie Bernard usenet#ebernard.greatxscape,ten y
gizbon gizbon#higs,oc,ku y
James West James#westy48.freeserve,oc,ku y
jeanette fitzhugh fine#blueyonder,oc,ku y
Kerene kerenejb#btinternet,moc y
Kevin Wilson kl3095#blueyonder,oc,ku y
Lyn David Thomas lyn#cibwr.freeserve,oc,ku y
Mal Franks malcolm.franks#btinternet,moc y
Michael Parry michael#cavrdg,dcu y
Mike Henry {$usenet$}#mrtickle,dcu y
Neil F microclot#hotmail,moc y
Nick jfnw41225#cableinet,oc,ku y
Nigel Ashton nigel#nigelashton,dcu y
Paula Burns paula#burns77.fsworld,oc,ku y
Peter Birmingham birmo#ic24,ten y
Peter Munn pmunnsub#pearce-neptune,dcu y
Peter Smyth psmyth#ukf,ten y
philip page philip.j.page#btinternet,moc y
Richard David Marbrow rmarbrow#blueyonder,oc,ku y
Richard Letts rjl-merseyvote#illuin,rog y
Squirm squirm#blueyonder,oc,ku y
Susan Ashton susan#ashton,dcu y
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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS:
First an Apology for the lateness of these results, my private life
has made major roads into the amount of free time I have and this set
of results suffered because of it. This was compounded due to the Call
for Applications for the Committee. I appologise to the Proponent and
the community. There was a ack bounced but I communicated with the
voter by other means and we sorted the error with his mailserver.
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Rationale: uk.local.merseyside
There are many up and coming towns on Merseyside which are covered by
the newsgroup uk.local.nw-england
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SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION: uk.local.merseyside
During the 1st RFD, it became evident that some people objected to
using the word 'county' to describe Merseyside. This was discussed
and it was agreed that the best way forward would be to omit the word
'county' from the newsgroup line. It was necessary to clarify and
define Merseyside and this was the way forward for the 2nd RFD.
After clarifying these points there were still voices of objection
about the name Merseyside. During the discussion, there was no better
description offered for the area detailed in the charter.
The point was raised that Merseyside is an area-name which is in
everyday usage and is also commonly understood and therefore complies
with the uk.local.* charter. There were still objections to the name.
The point was raised about traffic and it is in my opinion there has
been sufficient interest shown in unnc and to me privately via email.
The accidental creation of the uk.local.merseyside by Blueyonder
proves that the group can work and that the showing from one ISP
alone, demonstrates this.
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NEWSGROUPS LINE:
uk.local.merseyside Merseyside, England
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Charter: uk.local.merseyside
uk.local.merseyside is for the discussion of issues relevant to
Merseyside in the Northwest of England.
For the purposes of this newsgroup Merseyside is defined as ;
"Anywhere now in the Metropolitan Districts of Sefton, Liverpool,
Knowsley, St. Helens and Wirral, or previously in the former County of
Merseyside"
Advertising:
Advertising is strictly forbidden, with these exceptions:
Suppliers of goods and services relevant to Merseyside may post an
invitation to visit their web site or request details. It should be of
four lines or fewer and not posted more than once every 3 months. The
subject line should begin "ADVERT: ", except for vacancy adverts, when
it should begin "JOB: ".
Crossposting:
Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more
than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be
geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of
the post (e.g. "a proposed house move from Southport to
Southend-on-Sea").
Note that the advertising of widely-available goods or services is
*not* relevant in this context, and that most uk.local.* groups have
restrictions on advertising, or prohibit it. Cross-posted adverts,
where allowed, must meet the requirements of the charters of *all*
groups
Binaries & Formatting:
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a
pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be
used where authentication is important and should be as short as
possible.
Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some common
newsreaders comply with this, read
<http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
Warning:
Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their
System Administrator and/or Service Provider.
END CHARTER.
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Robbie Irvine (r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk)
UKVoting Votetaker
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