24 Nov 2000: Amend Hierarchy Charter for uk.media.*
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From: alan@whirlnet.co.uk (Alan Ford)
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Subject: RESULTS: Amend Hierarchy Charter for uk.media.* PASSES (OPTION
2)
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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:07:19 +0000
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Amend Hierarchy Charter for uk.* PASSES with OPTION 3
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Voting began Thursday 12th October 2000
Voting closed Thursday 2nd November 2000 23:59:59 GMT
Proponent: Graham Drabble <graham.drabble@lineone.net>
Primary Votetaker: Alan Ford <alan@whirlnet.co.uk>
Secondary Votetaker: Jim Hill <vote-admin@jhc.co.uk>
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DISTRIBUTION
These results have been posted to:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.media
uk.media.tv.misc
uk.media.radio.misc
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RESULTS COUNTING
The options were:
OPTION 1 allows for the quick creation of a group *without* an RFD
being produced by ammending the heirachy charter to allow
this. This will require 7 supporters.
OPTION 2 allows fot the quick creation of a group providing that a RFD
is submitted at the same time by ammending the heirachy
charter.
This will require 7 supporters.
OPTION 3 uses the existing template mechanism to create a group. This
will require 11 supporters.
STATUS QUO
RE-OPEN DISCUSSION
STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo:
Option 1 preferred to SQ by 18 : 6
Option 2 preferred to SQ by 20 : 5
Option 3 preferred to SQ by 20 : 5
Re-Open Discussion (ROD) preferred to SQ by 11 : 5 - FAILS +12 rule
The following options beat Status Quo by the required 12 votes, and
therefore proceed to the next stage:
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
STAGE TWO - Comparison of remaining options:
Option 3 is preferred to Option 1 by 12 : 10
Option 3 is preferred to Option 2 by 14 : 7
Option 3 is preferred to Status Quo (SQ) by 20 : 5
Option 3 is preferred to Re-Open Discussion (ROD) by 20 : 5
OPTION 3 was preferred to all the other options, and had a majority of
more than twelve over the Status Quo, therefore the hierarchy charter
will be amended accordingly
There were a total of 25 votes.
There will be a five day discussion period after these results have been
posted before the group is created to allow for any allegations of
irregularities to be raised.
The Rationale, Summary of Discussion, Proposal, and Charter follow the
main results for informational purposes.
RAW PREFERENCES GRID
OP1 OP2 OP3 SQ ROD
OP1 [n/a] [ 15] [ 10] [ 18] [ 17]
OP2 [ 5] [n/a] [ 7] [ 20] [ 19]
OP3 [ 12] [ 14] [n/a] [ 20] [ 20]
SQ [ 6] [ 5] [ 5] [n/a] [ 5]
ROD [ 7] [ 6] [ 5] [ 11] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column.
OPPOSITE COMPARISONS GRID
OP1 OP2 OP3 SQ ROD
OP1 [n/a] [ 10] [ -2] [ 12] [ 10]
OP2 [-10] [n/a] [ -7] [ 15] [ 13]
OP3 [ 2] [ 7] [n/a] [ 15] [ 15] <- WINNER
SQ [-12] [-15] [-15] [n/a] [ -6]
ROD [-10] [-13] [-15] [ 6] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were
cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the
option appropriate to the number's row.
As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive,
OPTION 3 (OP3) was preferred to all other options and hence wins the
ballot.
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THE RESULTS IN FULL
Total Votes: 25
Re-Open Discussion (ROD)------------------------------------------------
-----+ Status Quo (SQ)--------------------------------------------------
---------+ | Option 3--------------------------------------------------
-------------+ | |
Option 2------------------------------------------------------------+ |
| |
Option 1---------------------------------------------------------+ | |
| |
| | |
| |
Alex Dawson alex@goselldirect@OCm 1 2 3
5 4
Andrew Berry andrew@aberry@demon@OC@KU 1 2 3
- -
Andrew Gierth andrew@erlenstar@demon@OC@KU 5 4 3
1 2
Andrew Smith andrew@smithh@usa@net 1 2 3
5 4
astral alice alice@death@org@KU 1 3 2
- -
Charles Lindsey chl@clw@cs@man@ac@KU 2 4 1
5 3
Christopher Dearlove chris@mnemosyne@demon@OC@KU 1 1 1
2 2
Clair Shaw SeedieS@yahoo@OCm 2 3 1
- 4
Dave Mayall david@mayall@ukonline@OC@KU 3 1 5
4 2
DinkiPixie dinkipix@dinkipix@OC@KU 3 3 1
4 -
Eddie Bernard usenet@ebernard@greatxscape@net 2 3 1
5 4
Graham Drabble graham@drabble@lineone@net 1 2 5
4 3
Jack Howard jack@stormshadow@OC@KU 1 2 3
- -
James Coupe james@zephyr@org@KU 2 1 1
2 2
Justa Lurker jlurker@bigfoot@OCm 4 4 1
2 3
Marcus Houlden uk@m-vote@nukesoft@OC@KU 1 3 2
- -
Paul Betteridge PaulBetteridge@kjoak@globalnet@OC@KU - - -
1 2
Paul Bolchover pb10003@cam@ac@KU 4 5 1
2 3
Pekka P@ Pirinen ppp@pirinen@demon@OC@KU 2 3 1
- -
Philip Powell philip@blencathra@org@KU 5 2 1
4 3
Richard Kettlewell richard+ukmedia1@sfere@greenend@org@KU 1 3 2
5 4
Robbie robbie@ukvote@arrakis@nu - - -
1 1
Terrance Richard Boyes tez@pierrot@OC@KU 3 2 1
- 4
Tim Miller tim@economic-truth@OC@KU 2 3 1
- 4
Tony Walton tony@walton@uk@sun@OCm 1 2 3
- -
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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS:
It surprised me how small the turnout for this vote actually was.
Be that as it may, it all went smoothly and here we have the results.
There is nothing more for me to really add!
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RATIONALE: uk.media.*
There is a clear need for groups to be quickly created to enable
discussion of TV shows in the uk.* hierarchy. The current process is too
long winded to be of use in short series. Another problem facing
proponents is that the groups can often be short term and may dry up
after the series has finished. This change hopes to rectify this by
allowing speedy creation of temporary groups. The idea was borrowed from
the uk.current-events.* charter with some minor amendments.
I have also taken this opportunity to slightly re-word the existing
paragraph to make it easier to read.
RATIONALE: uk.media.(tv/radio).* template
This allows the group to be created quickly under the existing template
rules. However by having the 90/120 day clause in the charter it allows
them to be easily removed if no RFD is forthcoming.
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OPTION 3: The Winning Option, to be applied
Group Template uk.media.tv.* and uk.media.radio.*
UK.MEDIA.TV.* AND UK.MEDIA.RADIO.* GROUP TEMPLATE CHARTERS
GROUP DEFINITION
Any programme or series currently being broadcast, or scheduled to be
broadcast within the two months following the request, on any
terrestrial, cable or satellite channel receivable within the UK.
CONDITIONS:
Any proponents wishing to create a TV or radio group using the
"Group Template" option must satisfy the following conditions:
1. The programme shall fall within the "Group Definition".
2. A further 11-20 potential newsgroup users shall provide their
names and valid email addresses for listing in the posting, by
Control, to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config and uk.media
as well as uk.media.tv.misc or uk.media.radio.misc as appropriate.
3. The normally accepted full name of the programme shall be
used in the newsgroup name and shall be hyphenated if necessary
(e.g. big-brother).
4. The group charter shall be the following in full:
CHARTER TEMPLATE
Newsgroup line:
uk.media.tv.<programme-name> The TV program <programme-name>
OR uk.media.radio.<programme-name> The Radio program <programme-name>
Charter for uk.media.<tv/radio>.<programme-name>
uk.media.<tv/radio>.<programme-name> is for the discussion of all
aspects of the program <programme-name> currently broadcast on
<channel(s)>.
This group shall be rmgrouped after 90 /120 days unless in the meantime
an RFD has been proposed to make it permanent, with an appropriate
permanent charter. Any RFD that proposes to make the group permanent
must have applied for a vote taker or fast track by the 90th/120th day
in which case the removal of the group shall be postponed pending the
outcome. If either of these fails the rmgroup shall be issued. Control
should post a message to the group after approximately 70/90 days to
remind them of this. An announcement of the rmgroup should be posted to
uk.net.news.announce.
ADVERTISING:
Advertising is forbidden.
BINARIES AND FORMATTING
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.), are
*forbidden*, except for cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP). Binaries
belong on a web or ftp site, whose URL may be posted.
Posts must be in plain text. To see how to make your newsreader comply
with this, read http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html
WARNING
Anyone posting advertisements, binaries or other material contrary
to this charter may be reported to their ISP or postmaster.
END CHARTER TEMPLATE.
QUICK GROUP CREATION REQUEST:
A request for a newsgroup should be emailed to control@usenet.org.uk
with the wording:
"Request for quick creation:
We request creation of a newsgroup for <program-name> in accordance
with the Charter Template for uk.media.tv.* groups"
and a list of 12-21 supporters with valid email addresses.
END GROUP TEMPLATE CHARTER.
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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf
of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.
The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting
The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
uk.net.news.announce.
Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.
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Alan Ford <alan@whirlnet.co.uk> <a.ford@ukvoting.org.uk> UKVoting
Votetaker
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