Path: oaktree.co.uk!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!usenet.org.uk!not-for-mail From: Alex Holden Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer Subject: RESULT: New Newsgroup uk.media.tv.angel PASSES (29:10) Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:07:26 +0000 Message-ID: Sender: Control Approved: Control X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP uk.net.news.announce iQCVAwUBOh4932OfGXkh8vHZAQFIuwP/WQMCzCzZfs7RoQqa0KfZkuq9CmkSKFCU egDMn04Lju1cAeE8UviZh3TzBKsZPF0FC1qC6gre4vQ7/ADSZ4yhItESmoeo9kq0 9I48H13N6DiOxfjPKfJBfjYTte5s/MqevfKihCN5CILkWt61rKGQUzMd+XVDfL0D sS5GwJiEpG4= =VrwA Lines: 187 Xref: oaktree.co.uk uk.net.news.announce:1987 uk.net.news.config:99445 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Creation of uk.media.tv.angel proposal PASSES 29:10 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 11th November 2000. Proponent: Craig Lucas Votetaker: Alex Holden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Particulars of the Vote 3) Votetakers Comments 4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 5) Rationale & Proposed Charter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RESULTS: PROPOSAL - Creation of uk.media.tv.angel YES : 29 votes NO : 10 votes ABSTAIN : 5 votes Total : 44 votes YES beat NO by a majority of 19 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal PASSES. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Particulars of the Vote Question = Create uk.media.tv.angel Y= Yes, N = No, A = Abstain Address Name Vote a.hogg@sms.ed.ca.uk Andrew Hogg Y a.j.walker@virgin.tne Andy Walker N alex@goselldirect.cmo Alex Dawson N amn@ubik.demon.oc.uk Anthony Naggs Y andrew@poulter.cmo Andrew Poulter N andy@pigsonthewing.rgo.uk Andy Mabbett A angelcfv@mcintyre10.freeserve.oc.uk aMc Y broonie@sirena.rgo.uk Mark Brown Y c.g.brannigan@btinternet.cmo Christopher G Brannigan Y cath@hendrix.demon.oc.uk catherine grey Y craig.lucas@bigfoot.cmo Craig Lucas Y Daniel.Grimmer@icl.cmo Danny Y Dave.Painter@care4free.tne Dave Painter Y david@billen.oc.uk David Billen N david@evildeath.madasafish.cmo David Chapman N dinkipix@dinkipix.oc.uk DinkiPixie Y DJWhiteman@bigfoot.cmo DJWhiteman Y dmahonvote@amigo.oc.uk David Mahon Y donna.taylor@compaq.cmo Donna Y drcaulas_tea_bags@hotmail.cmo Dracula's Tea Bags Y flynny@redhotant.cmo James Farrar N garymyles@mca.cmo Keyman Y grete@darkstorm.oc.uk Grete Y herbie@orca1.clara.oc.uk Herbie Y jrsc2@cam.ca.uk James Coupe A littlewood@troston.freeserve.oc.uk Charles Littlewood N liz@westhoughton.demon.oc.uk Liz Batty Y Marell@ellmar.demon.oc.uk Mark Eller N mklui89@rocketmail.cmo Bertha Catherine Chin Y natalie@ntlworld.cmo Natalie Y neil.scott@cableinet.oc.uk Neil Scott Y p.dawson@agamenon.demon.oc.uk Paul Dawson Y pahyett@cativist.demon.oc.uk Paul Hyett Y pb10003@cam.ca.uk Paul Bolchover N Peter.Card@jet.ku Peter Card N richard@tga.u-net.cmo Richard Gadsden A richard+ukvoting+angel@sfere.greenend.rgo.uk Richard Kettlewell A robbie@ukvote.arrakis.un robbie Y stephen@qwango.cmo Stephen Clifford Y stewart@foxbasealpha.oc.uk Stewart Tolhurst Y tez@pierrot.oc.uk Terrance Richard Boyes Y tfl@psp.oc.uk Thomas Lee A thegrouchybeast@hotmail.cmo The Grouchybeast Y votes@barrykas.salterg.oc.uk Barry Salter Y Rejected votes Steve Lorek muffle@immortalcurse.cmo - No ballot paper received Mark Adamson fingalscave@hotmail.cmo - No ballot paper received - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Votetakers Comments: All in all a fairly smooth running vote. The two rejected votes were sent to the voting address with no ballot paper. A copy of the CFV was sent to them with their formal acknowledgment of an invalid vote. No valid vote or any kind of response was received from either of these voters by the close of voting. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RATIONALE: uk.media.tv.angel - ---------------------------- With the possibility of Angel being shown on terrestrial television in the UK, the spoiler rules which are operating within uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer (the usual forum for Angel discussion) are becoming at best blurred and at worst draconian. A sister group to UMTB would allow those who follow both programmes more freedom to post without confusion as to what constitutes a "spoiler" and what does not. The proposed group is also intended to have less restrictive off-topic subjects than in UMTB, allowing posters more freedom of discussion. CHARTER: uk.media.tv.angel - -------------------------- uk.media.tv.angel is for the discussion of the television show 'Angel' and related matters, including merchandise, conventions, and the cast's other work. Discussion of Angel episodes not yet screened on non-subscription television is permitted but posting of spoiler material without an appropriate warning in the subject header is not permitted. ADVERTISING Advertising is forbidden, with these exceptions: Suppliers of goods and services relevant to 'Angel' in the UK may post, not more than once every month, an invitation of four lines or fewer, to visit their web site or request details. The subject line must begin "ADVERT: " BINARIES & FORMATTING Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.), are *forbidden*, except for cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP). Binaries belong on a web or FTP site, whose URL may be posted. Posts must be in plain text. 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