Path: sn-us!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!newsfeed.online.be!bnewspeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.osn.de!lon1-news.nildram.net!news-peer.gradwell.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.management From: m.mockford@ukvoting.org.uk (Molly Mockford) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:53:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Result: Membership UK Usenet Committee 2002 Approved: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Followup-To: uk.net.news.management Sender: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18WgEa-00092C-00*mNLXJ994t3g* Lines: 916 NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Jan 2003 17:12:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.149.39.13 X-Trace: 1042132375 news.gradwell.net 33925 mail2news/195.149.39.13 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@gradwell.net Xref: sn-us uk.net.news.announce:3110 uk.net.news.config:153084 uk.net.news.management:46778 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULTS OF A CALL FOR VOTES Committee Elections 2002 The following people are elected to serve until end of December 2005: As Open Class Candidates Geoff Berrow Sarah Reeson Thomas Lee Andrew Gierth Voting closed at 23:59:59GMT, 31st October 2002. Primary Votetaker: r.irvine@ukvoting.org.uk (Robbie Irvine) Backup/Secondary Votetaker: m.mockford@ukvoting.org.uk (Molly Mockford) - --------------------------------------------------------------- Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.management - --------------------------------------------------------------- The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Result 2) Particulars of the Vote 3) Secondary Votetaker's comments 4) Voting and Appeal guidelines 5) Copy of the Call for Votes dated 13th October 2002 1) RESULT Please note that the count has been done using software developed by the Electoral Reform Society . Committee Elections 2002 31/10/2002 Stage 1 Quota = 26.40 Geoff_Berrow ELECTED with 31.00 over quota 26.40 Sarah_Reeson ELECTED with 28.00 over quota 26.40 Vote required for election now: 26.40 Stage 2 No candidates can be excluded, so we transfer the largest surplus Surplus of Geoff_Berrow 30 papers transferred. Total Present Value: 30.00 1 papers non-transferable. Papers transferred at 0.15 Vote required for election now: 26.37 Stage 3 The sum of Andrew_Hartley: 2.15 and the total surplus: 1.60 is less than the support for the next lowest candidate, Jezza: 8.15, so that candidate is excluded. Excluding Andrew_Hartley Transferring papers worth 1.00 Transferring papers worth 0.15 Stage 4 The sum of Jezza: 9.15 and the total surplus: 1.60 is less than the support for the next lowest candidate, James_Coupe: 12.75, so that candidate is excluded. Excluding Jezza Transferring papers worth 1.00 Vote required for election now: 26.04 Transferring papers worth 0.15 Stage 5 The sum of James_Coupe: 13.75 and the total surplus: 1.60 is less than the support for the next lowest candidate, Graham_Drabble: 16.05, so that candidate is excluded. Excluding James_Coupe Transferring papers worth 1.00 Thomas_Lee ELECTED with 28.80 over quota 26.40 Andrew_Gierth ELECTED with 26.90 over quota 26.40 Total votes cast: 133 Valid Votes 2) PARTICULARS OF THE VOTE 2a) VOTER LIST The following 133 people posted valid votes which have been counted: {R} {R} % semolina gro Adam D. Barratt usenet+ukce2002 % adam-barratt ku gro Alan Ford alan % whirlnet ku oc Alex Cook alexcook % cwcom ten Alex Holden vote % alex-holden ku oc Andrew Gierth andrew % erlenstar ! demon ku oc Andrew Hartley andy % eastupham ! freeserve ku oc andrew stone andrewstone % hemscott ten Andrew Wheatley andrew ! wheatley % union gro az Andy Davidson andy % nosignal gro Anthony Naggs amn % ubik ! demon ku oc Anthony R. Gold tgold % panix moc Barry Dorrans barryd % idunno gro Bill Godfrey billg % bacchae f9 ku oc Bill Muskett billn % musketts ku gro Bob Goddard bob % godwit ! demon ku oc Brett Paul Dunbar brett % dimetrodon ! demon ku oc Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk % dsl ku oc Charles Lindsey chl % clw ! cs ! man ku ca Chris Bannister cj % moodog ku gro Chris Croughton chris % keristor gro Chris Gidden cdir % crag ku oc Clive Martin clive % cmartin ! demon ku oc Clive R Robertson cliver % clive ku gro Colin Rosenstiel rosenstiel % cix ku oc Dave Dave % community-spirit ! demon ku oc Dave Budd d ! budd % man ku ca Dave Johnson requiem % freeuk moc Dave Mason COM2002 % sarnie ku gro Dave Millard dave % focus3 ! uk moc David Brain news % davidbrain ku oc David Mahon dmahon_vote_com2002 % amigo ku oc David Mayall dave % research-group ku oc David Riley dave % dmriley ! demon ku oc David Taylor davidt-vote % yadt ku oc David Uri duri % blueyonder ku oc Denis F denis % withypool ten Denis McMahon com2002 % pickaxe ten Devi Jankowicz devi ! jankowicz % luton ku ca DG dickg % dickalba ! demon ku oc Don Aitken don-aitken % freeuk moc Douglas Paulley kq % kingqueen ku gro Dr John Stockton 20021030 % merlyn ! demon ku oc Eddie Bernard usenet % ebernard ! greatxscape ten Fred Barber fredb % frolix8 ! demon ku oc Geoff Berrow geoffberrow % bigfoot moc gizbon gizbon % higs ku oc Glenys Pople gkp % howfen ! demon ku oc Graham Drabble graham ! drabble % lineone ten Graham Murray newspost % gmurray ku gro Grant Mason usenet % mason hs Iain A F Fleming iainf % circuit-systems moc Iain Bowen alaric % alaric ku gro James Bentall jimney % bigfoot moc James Coupe james % zephyr ku gro James Davies jawida % ticket-stub ku oc James Farrar londonstatto % yahoo ku oc Jeff Lewis jeff % maerdy gro Jeffrey Goldberg jeffrey % goldmark gro Jezza jezza % hotwells ! freeserve ku oc Jim Hill com2002 % jhc ku gro Jim Riley jimrtex % pipeline moc John Bean news % waterfoot gro John Dean john-dean % lineone ten John Hall john % jhall ku oc Jon Beasley-Murray jpb8 % duke ude Jon Thomson mawdl % csv ! warwick ku ca Jonathen Wheeler J ! F ! Wheeler % rl ku ca Justa Lurker jlurker % bigfoot moc Keith Willoughby keith % flat222 gro Kevin Andreoli kevin % andreoli ku oc kqr kqr2D2 % btopenworld moc Lesley Simpson nl % corwyn ! demon ku oc Linz linz % lindsayendell ku gro Liz Batty emb51 % cam ku ca Lt. Cmdr. Jim jim % us-lot gro Lyn David Thomas lyn % cibwr ! freeserve ku oc Malcolm Mladenovic mbm % tinc ku gro Mark Coxley mark % xcski moc Mark Tyndall mrt102 % york ku ca Michael Parry michael % cavrdg ! demon ku oc Mike Bristow mike % urgle moc Mike Fleming mike % tauzero ku oc Mike Henry $usenet$} % mrtickle ! demon ku oc Mike Tullett mtullett % ntlworld moc Neil Ellwood cne % netmatters ku oc Nigel Ashton nigel % nigelashton ! demon ku oc Noreen noreen ! c % blueyonder ku oc Patrick Herring anweald % ntlworld moc paul {voter} % watman ! clara ku oc Paul Giverin paul % giverin ku oc Paul Harper paul % harper ten Paul Roe paulroe660 % btinternet moc Paul Womar Vote % womar ku oc Pete Fenelon pete % fenelon moc Pete The Gardener pete_the_gardener % hotmail moc peter gradwell peter % gradwell moc Peter Munn pmunnsub % pearce-neptune ! demon ku oc Peter Robinson pmrobinson % gmx ten Peter Smyth psmyth % gmx ten Phil Todd philtodd % bigfoot moc Philip Powell philip % blencathra ku gro Richard Clayton richard % highwayman moc Richard Kennaway jrk % sys ! uea ku ca Richard Kettlewell richard+ukcom2002 % sfere ! greenend ku gro Ron Morgan mysteron % zetnet ku oc Ronan Flood ronan % noc ! ulcc ku ca Ross Younger news04 % crazyscot moc Roy Stilling rpjs % kalevala ku gro Sarah Reeson sarah % gubbins ten Shane Matthews ukcom2002 % gaelyn ten sparhawk sparhawk2 % ntlworld moc Spider dipsey-doodle % shaw ! ca squire squireb % bryhod99 ! demon ku oc Stephen Gower ukvoting % gowerpower ku gro steve steve % rawlinson ! demon ku oc Steve Firth vote % malloc ku oc Steve Lewin slewin % clara ku oc steve peake spam % puppet-head ku oc Stuart Millington news % dsv1 ku oc Susan Ashton susan % ashton ! demon ku oc Tez Burke burkesworks % lineone ten the kat katnews % ntlworld moc Thomas Lee tfl % psp ku oc Tim Emanuel tim % cantona ku gro Tim Forcer tmf % ecs ! soton ku ca Tim Miller tim % economic-truth ku oc Tom Hughes tom % compton ! nu Tony tony % darkstorm ku oc Tony Towers tony % cats ! tele2 ku oc Tony Walton tony ! walton % sun ku oc Tony Wright adw % saska ! demon ku oc Wm tcnw51 % tarrcity ! demon ku oc 2b) INVALID VOTES The following five invalid votes were submitted: * Acknowledgement notice undeliverable * Scott Taylor taylorscott67 ! yahoo moc It was noted that the Primary Votetaker had sent the initial acknowledgement, which did not bounce, to the From address on this ballot, and not to the e-mail address contained within the ballot. The e-mail address in the vote has therefore not been validated as a working one and this vote has to be excluded. * More than one candidate ranked in first place * One ballot, superseded by a later valid vote from that voter. * Invalid Ballot Key * Three ballots, all of which were superseded by later valid votes from those voters. 2c) VOTES CAST The following are the valid votes, each with their Unique ID to enable voters to identify their votes: HH: James Coupe -------------------------------+ GG: Jezza ---------------------------------+ | FF: Andrew Hartley --------------------+ | | EE: Andrew Gierth -----------------+ | | | DD: Geoff Berrow --------------+ | | | | CC: Graham Drabble --------+ | | | | | BB: Sarah Reeson ------+ | | | | | | AA: Thomas Lee ----+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Ballot ID AA BB CC DD EE FF GG HH 0041dd2ad205fca4 - 6 1 2 3 5 4 - 01db204baeb83218 - 1 - - - - - - 025481ed36c43dbe 2 - - 3 1 - - 4 03a102456474e3d1 - 1 4 - - 2 3 - 04726b34f4c6c6d0 3 4 7 2 1 8 5 6 082c9567935a24ec 8 1 2 6 7 4 5 3 08987f1c6c3fba55 6 1 3 4 2 8 5 7 0a8d998c38b21c52 2 6 7 1 3 8 4 5 0afb62d468368439 8 4 3 2 5 7 6 1 0b0dd3db4d6a1ce9 - 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2 - 1 - - 4 3 c91954268d123eb5 3 - - 1 - - 4 2 c97143c69de90da7 - 1 - 2 4 3 - - c990d4644a95ba49 5 1 4 2 3 - - 6 c9ab5475cd28085b 1 - - 2 3 - - 4 cb530b8031ee252f 4 1 6 3 5 7 8 2 ccae312517502590 4 7 3 - 6 5 2 1 cf7d613c7d6c4439 1 4 5 6 2 7 8 3 d051e9d81133180b 5 1 4 2 3 7 8 6 d14c76b97412352d 3 4 2 1 6 8 7 5 d5011504c948d17d - 3 4 - - 1 2 - d79ccba560e072a1 1 6 5 2 3 4 8 7 d8da3e21ef097bb4 4 7 3 8 1 6 5 2 d9055e0bac807953 - 3 2 4 5 6 1 - da35fb14d966f948 6 1 7 3 2 4 5 8 dcae36645dc853c3 6 3 4 2 1 7 8 5 dd6f7ee213b51823 7 3 2 1 5 6 4 8 ee13ed10a211ff62 - 1 3 - 2 - 4 - ee71a733e55f8f2c 3 - - 1 4 - 5 2 f19a3e0b8ee5a0be 2 4 5 3 1 7 8 6 f2865811b058802f 3 7 6 5 1 8 4 2 f293824b33f4fec2 - 2 - - 3 - 1 - f2f1c2a24e20ae3f - 5 4 2 1 - 3 - f39582bb52419553 1 4 5 2 8 7 6 3 f51b1b05a62d23e0 2 8 4 1 3 7 5 6 f8ea98701031633b 1 7 3 2 8 6 5 4 f9cd9a5d4f0a079c 5 1 6 3 2 7 4 8 fed5c896875f0c10 3 8 4 5 2 6 7 1 ff356b87e74c0bc3 4 - 2 1 3 - - - 3) Secondary Votetaker's Comments This vote began badly, and continued badly. The first CFV was withdrawn because of the omission of one candidate's name from the list and the omission of another candidate's statement. The replacement CFV still contained errors (too many nominators were listed for some candidates) and the associated ballot paper introduced an altered definition of "anonymous redirection services". The intervention of the Committee, during the course of the vote, which resulted from this introduction was not universally welcomed (and has been disregarded by me in the production of these results). The Primary Votetaker eventually submitted a set of results to Control, which the Committee decided should be published in part only pending investigation of appeals and objections. The Primary Votetaker resigned. At this stage I was able to step in as Secondary Votetaker and, with the support of Control, the Committee and UKVoting, I issued an announcement stating that I would be re-examining and re-acknowledging every vote submitted, establishing their validity or otherwise using methods which differed from both the CFV and the ballot paper. This unprecedented approach found acceptance in the uk.net.news.management community. These results have therefore been arrived at on the following basis: 1. Largely as a result of the "Bigfoot row", some voters had submitted votes from more than one e-mail address. These voters were invited to select which vote they wished to appear in the results, their choice being limited to the latest valid vote received from each e-mail address. I, as the individual votetaker now in charge of the vote, do not agree that ballots using a Bigfoot address should have been excluded in the way that they were, and I have disregarded the reference to Bigfoot in the rubric on the ballot paper. 2.. The CFV required that the e-mail address which appeared in the ballot paper should be that to which the ballot paper had been sent. This requirement (which automatically validates the e-mail address) was not adhered to when the votes were initially examined, and as a result voters who fell foul of this instruction were offered no opportunity to re-vote. Because of this, I have disregarded this instruction when re- examining the votes. 3. Some voters entered in the ballot paper e-mail addresses which are role or positional addresses listed in RFC2142, such as news@domain or usenet@domain. On the initial examination of the votes, these particular votes were not queried to establish whether they did in fact come from individuals. Because it is now too late to invite such voters to vote again from an alternative address, I have not discarded any vote on the grounds of the use of a role or positional e-mail address. 4. Some voters sent their ballot to an address other than the voting address (e.g. to com2002@autoballot.ukvoting.org.uk or to com2002@request.ukvoting.org.uk). Such votes should have been refused and the voter invited to re-vote to the correct address. Because this did not initially happen in all such cases, I have accepted all such votes which I received as if they had been sent to the voting address. None of the above departures from normal custom and practice should be considered in any way to set a precedent, and voters in future votes are strongly advised to read the CFV and ballot paper rubric carefully and ensure that the votes they submit are in accordance with the instructions for that particular vote. It is very regrettable that in the case of one voter it was discovered, during re-examination of the votes, that the initial acknowledgement had been sent to the wrong e-mail address, and the acknowledgement sent by me to the e-mail address contained in the ballot paper bounced as undeliverable. This means that this vote must be regarded as invalid, despite the voter having originally received no notification of its invalidity, because the e-mail address in the ballot paper was never validated as a working address. Two other acknowledgements which I sent bounced as undeliverable - fortunately, neither was one which required a reply selecting which vote to use. In one case I had expected this, since the voter had already notified me, immediately after my published announcement, that he had changed e-mail accounts in the meantime. In both cases the original acknowledgement (which was sent to the correct address) was successfully delivered, and the e-mail address in the ballot had therefore been validated as a working one. These votes have therefore been included in the results. In the list of votes, there is one ballot ID whose length differs from the others. This was issued manually by the Primary Votetaker at the voter's request. I have added some spurious characters after the end of the ballot ID so that it is indistinguishable from the others in terms of its length, but the voter to whom it was allocated will be able to recognise it. It is not usual to include a paragraph like this in the votetaker's comments, but I wish to apologise to all candidates for the very long time they have had to wait to learn the outcome of the elections, and to congratulate them on the restraint which they have by and large shown during the waiting period. 4) VOTING AND APPEAL GUIDELINES This vote was conducted by neutral third party members of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/ There is a ten day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. 5) COPY OF THE CALL FOR VOTES DATED 13TH OCTOBER 2002 ELECTIONS: ========== There are currently four Open member Vacancies DEFINITIONS OF A OPEN MEMBER An Open Member is any person who is a reader of uk.* articles. NOMINATION RULES Nominations in the case of the "Open" class of membership may be made by any reader of uk.* articles. You may only nominate up to and including four persons. PERSONS RESIGNING FROM COMMITTEE N.B. There are now three vacancies on the committee for this class. Open Member Class: ================================================================= Open Class: 8 nominations received - the committee has 4 vacancies and therefore an election will be held to fill the 4 vacancies. Candidates: AA) Thomas Lee BB) Sarah Reeson CC) Graham Drabble DD) Geoff Berrow EE) Andrew Gierth FF) Andrew Hartley GG) Jezza HH) James Coupe Please find below details of the people who nominated each candidate (Name & Email Address) and a short statement from each candidate: - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Thomas Lee Email: tfl@psp.co.uk Nominators Name : James Coupe Email: james[at]zephyr/org\uk Name : Dave Williams Email: dave[at]clues\com Name : Richard Clayton Email: richard[at]highwayman\com Name : Mark Goodge Email: mark[at]good-stuff/co\uk Name : Jack Howard Email: renegade[at]stormshadow\com Statement I have been a member of the UK Usenet Committee since it was first setup and have been the proponent on three UK RFDs since than and have helped another two through to fruition. I've also been a co-proponent on one Big-8 group (misc.business.consulting). I have tried to take an active part in most debates that we've held here and have contributed to the many decisions that the Committee has to make. Over the past few years, I've been away a great deal, although this has largely ceased and from October I will be in a much more local job. If you have any questions whatsoever, please feel free to ask. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Sarah Reeson Email: sarah@gubbins.net Nominators Name : Mark Donlon Email: sparhawk2[at]ntlworld\com Name : Liz Batty Email: emb51[at]cam/ac\uk Name : Paul Roe Email: paulroe660[at]btinternet\com Name : James Davies Email: jd_d931t[at]btinternet\com Statement It's been nearly five years since I subscribed to u.n.n.c, and since that time I've argued, ignored, disagreed and proposed. I think now may be the right moment to act: considering the huge amounts of rhetoric that seem to spew forth daily on anything other than the business of improving Usenet for the majority of it's users perhaps it is time for someone who has no axe to grind, no point to make and no glory to forge to put up her hand and try and make a difference. I make no promises: I'll do my best, I'll try and be fair. I'd expect nothing less from anyone else. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Graham Drabble Email: graham.drabble@lineone.net Nominators Name : Dave Mayall Email: dave[at]research-group/co\uk Name : Adam D. Barratt Email: usenet[at]adam-barratt/org\uk Name : Jeffrey Goldberg Email: jeffrey[at]goldmark/org Name : Paul Carpenter Email: paul[at]pcserv.demon/co\uk Name : Philip Powell Email: philip[at]blencathra/org\uk Name : Eddie Bernard Email: usenet[at]ebernard/greatxscape\net Statement I have been using Usenet for about four years now and have been active on uk.net.news.* for about two. During this time I have worked to try and ensure that the group creation process works smoothly and to try and make life easier for uk.* users to get useful groups. To that end I have been a mentor since their inception and have RFD'd changes to charters that allowed for the extending uk uk.current-event.* groups and quick creation of uk.media.* groups. To maintain the hierarchies integrity I feel that it is important that we continue to ensure that groups are properly named and that the written guidelines are followed and that confusiion is dealt with in a quick and sensible way. I also feel that we should be checking that groups haven't failed and that the role of Dr Death is very important. Overall I feel that the system is working well and I would not push for any major changes. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Geoff Berrow Email: cttecfa@ckdog.co.uk Nominators Name : Glenys Pople Email: gkp[at]howfen.demon/co\uk Name : Richard Ashton Email: {R}[at]semolina/org Name : Tony Evans Email: tony[at]darkstorm/co\uk Name : Jeffrey Goldberg Email: jeffrey[at]goldmark/org Statement Back in 1999, when I first stood for the committee, I had serious concerns about the difficulties which faced new proponents. A lot has changed since then and I now believe it is easier than ever to form a new group. There is ample help available for anyone who wants to go through the process. Whilst this has not totally removed the problems, it does make the passage of a new RFD that much easier. The hierarchy now faces new challenges. It faces the challenge of petty squabbles and unproductive noise that make the newcomer feel that he or she has stumbled upon a viper's nest. It is a problem that requires a new determination to overcome. Or rather a new apathy, since I am convinced the correct way of dealing with those whose sole purpose is to cause mischief is to ignore them. At the same time we (the committee) should be urging everyone to treat newcomers to our groups with politeness and patience. Our hierarchy /can/ rise above the trolls and wreckers. Thomas Lee once paid me a great compliment. He said I was pragmatic and flexible. That doesn't mean I am shy of speaking out for something in which I believe, but neither am I afraid to admit it when I've got it wrong. However, I try to keep a sense of perspective on the whole thing. It is, after all, only Usenet. No one dies. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Andrew Gierth Email: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Nominators Name : Graham Drabble Email: graham.drabble[at]lineone.net Name : Peter Parry Email: peter[at]wpp.ltd.uk Name : Richard Letts Email: richard[at]illuin/org Name : Tony Evans Email: tony[at]darkstorm/co\uk Name : Chris Croughton Email: chris[at]keristor/org Name : Kevin Andreoli Email: kevin[at]andreoli/co\uk Name : David Mahon Email: newsreply[at]amigo/co\uk Name : Steve Firth Email: %steve%[at]malloc/co\uk Statement As a professional news administrator, I believe that the interests of both uk.* users in general and my users in particular are best served by having a group creation process that maintains a reasonable balance between avoiding the creation of unnecessary groups while still allowing popular groups to be created easily. As part of this, I believe that on occasion, common sense and the Committee's discretion sometimes has to take precedence over strict interpretation of the Guidelines. I also consider it important that the Committee's decisions be based on accurate information on both the technical aspects of Usenet and the practical aspects of news administration. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Andrew Hartley Email: andy@eastupham.freeserve.co.uk Nominators Name : Eddie Bernard Email: usenet[at]ebernard/greatxscape\net Name : Tony Evans Email: tony[at]darkstorm/co\uk Name : Philip Powell Email: philip[at]blencathra/org.uk Name : Chris Croughton Email: chris[at]keristor/org Statement I'm not going to sit here and type a load of rubbish, so I'll say this instead; I want to see the uk.* hierarchy prosper as much as possible. I think that Usenet is an excellent resource, and much better than signing up for endless profiles and chat rooms. I see Usenet as a widespread digital university debating society, insofar as many serious issues are discussed but allot of fun is had along the way. As for why I want to be on the committee, I believe I can give a rational and common sense view on any issue raised. I will not act with bias towards a person, but look at the evidence for and against an issue (if you like, "weigh up the pros and cons") and decide on that, and that alone. Some of you may also know that I am a member of UK Mentors, and I state now that I will resign from UKM if I am elected to the committee on the basis of fairness to proponents. I also am a member of the Scout Association and I am attending the 20th World Scout Jamboree in Thailand, as part of the Devon contingent, at the end of this year. Oh BTW, don't forget to vote for me :-) - - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Jezza Email: jezza@hotwells.freeserve.co.uk Nominators Name : Dave Mayall Email: dave[at]research-group/co\uk Name : Suze Email: suze[at]theworkhouse1/co\uk Name : Denis F aka Denis Fuller Email: denis[at]withypool\net Name : Tony Pawsey Email: tpawsey[at]lineone\net Name : Adrian Stapley Email: adrian[at]semleystation/co\uk Statement I have been using usenet since 1996. I have knowledge of the group creation process gained from proposing uk.culture.arts.theatre, amending the charter for uk.local.southwest and proposing the removal of uk.announce.d I am a member of UK Mentors, actively engaged in helping people through the group creation process. In real life, I am a boatman, writer, web site creator and actor. I am also an editor for the Open Directory Project. If elected, I would aim to put something back into the uk.* usenet community, especially by maintaining the integrity of the uk.* usenet hierarchy and doing my best to ensure that decisions in which I participated were honest and as open as possible. In case you wish to know, my full name is Jeremy McNeill. - - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Name : James Coupe Email: james@zephyr.org.uk Nominators Name : Thomas Lee Email: tfl[at]psp/co\uk Name : Andy Davidson Email: andy[at]nosignal/org Name : August West Email: august[at]kororaa\com Also Known As: Iain Fleming Name : Dave Mayall Email: dave[at]research-group/co\uk Statement As a long-time poster in uk.*, and uk.net.news.*, several people suggested I stand. That experience of uk.* means I know both the highs and the lows, the perils and the pit-falls. I know what challenges I face, and I know I can see it through. I am not going to fall silent, I will continue to engage in discussions on what's best for uk.* with anyone who cares to approach me. My core belief is in that openness and frank discussion. It is all too easy for people, however well intentioned, to fall silent, in line with 'the system'. Open and flexible discussions, to gauge what the users of uk.* want, is necessary and desirable and I intend to be part of that process, representing people and their views, whether that be pro- or anti-any given point, so that the system works for the people, not the people for the system. I am not perfect, I am not infallible, and I reserve the right to make mistakes. Where I do, however, I would hope that people feel able to tell me what I should be doing and where uk.* should be working towards. 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