From control@usenet.org.uk Thu Sep 11 13:30:37 BST 1997 Article: 769 of uk.net.news.announce Path: lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!bowl.news.pipex.net!pipex!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hose.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!krypton.inbe.net!INbe.net!news.belnet.be!jussieu.fr!oleane!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!feed1.news.erols.com!zdc!super.zippo.com!lotsanews.com!yama.mcc.ac.uk!io.salford.ac.uk!illuin.demon.co.uk!control Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 17:29:03 GMT Sender: Richard Letts Reply-To: control@usenet.org.uk Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce,uk.education.misc,uk.misc,uk.politics.misc Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Message-ID: Approved: Richard Letts From: Iain Bowen Subject: RESULT: uk.misc.query+answer PASSES 26:23 Lines: 206 Xref: lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk uk.net.news.config:22315 uk.net.news.announce:769 uk.education.misc:12403 uk.misc:241612 uk.politics.misc:126140 Status: OR RESULT Creation of uk.misc.query+answer Voting closed 23:59:59, Thursday 28th August 1997 This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UK-VOTING. UK-VOTING is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFV's in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote was taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting. Further information on UK-VOTING can be found at http://www.harlech.demon.co.uk For voting questions only contact voting@harlech.demon.co.uk (Iain Bowen). For questions about the proposed new group contact: simon@star-one.org.uk (Simon Gray) DISTRIBUTION: This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.education.misc, uk.misc, uk.politics.misc Summary: uk.misc.query+answers A group for receiving answers to questions ! CHARTER: uk.misc.query+answers The purpose of this newsgroup is to provide general information, providing a place/service where people can get help with studies including 'home-work' and where they can help each other to learn.... This will be a group where any who can help others will drop in and encourage those with 'problems' to think those problems through under guidance. The group will have no age bars. Note, however, that certain questions might be better asked in group that already exists specifically for a given topic - before posting such a question, please consider carefully if this is so in your case. The group will be particularly directed at helping with questions, to which you are finding it difficult to obtain useful and clear answers. The maximum help will be given to those who describe the work they've already done trying to solve problems and research on their own. Little, if any help will be given to those who do not exhibit any signs at all of intending to help themselves! If you need help in understanding how to set about finding out, that help will also be given where resources are available. The group will not be chatter or gossip oriented, unless the chatter is illustrative of solutions to 'problems'. As with all contacts on the net, you are advised to exert considerable caution. Crossposting: Excessive crossposting is inappropriate. Crossposting to other groups MUST be on-topic for those groups. Crossposting to more than a total of 1 or 2 groups will be strongly discouraged. FAQ: A FAQ will be developed; with particular attention to a directory of other groups, found helpful in answering questions, in defined categories. Advertising: Advertising is forbidden Binaries: Binaries are not permitted, but directions as to where relevant binaries may be found are welcomed. The counts ---------- FIRST COUNT (QUOTA=27) uk.education.self-help 11 uk.misc.questions 8 uk.misc.query+answer 9 uk.learning.general 5 ELIMINATED No group 19 At this point the group passes its non-creation hurdle by having a surplus of 12 votes for all the group names over the votes for no group. SECOND COUNT Non-transferable: 0 (QUOTA=27) uk.education.self-help 11 + 3 = 14 uk.misc.questions 8 = 8 ELIMINATED uk.misc.query+answer 9 + 1 = 10 No group 19 + 1 = 20 THIRD COUNT Non-transferable: 0 (QUOTA=27) uk.education.self-help 14 + 1 = 15 ELIMINATED uk.misc.query+answer 10 + 7 = 17 No group 20 = 20 FOURTH COUNT Non-transferable: 4 (QUOTA=25) uk.misc.query+answer 18 + 8 = 26 ELECTED No group 20 + 3 = 23 The group is to be called uk.misc.query+answer The Votes --------- No group ---------------------------------------------------------------- uk.learning.general ------------------------------------------------ | uk.misc.query+answer ------------------------------------------ | | uk.misc.questions ---------------------------------------- | | | uk.education.self-help ----------------------------- | | | | | | | | | v v v v v {R}(at)nospam.demon.co.uk Richard Ashton 4 2 3 5 1 abelard(at)abelard.demon.co.uk "abelard" 2 1 alan(at)nurdglaw.demon.co.uk Alan Grunwald 2 1 alan(at)the-one.demon.co.uk Alan Scobbie 1 alex(at)fairfield.demon.co.uk Alex Ray 1 3 2 4 andi(at)amcarey.demon.co.uk Andi Carey 4 1 3 2 5 angus(at)gulliver1.demon.co.uk Angus Gulliver 1 3 4 2 aw1(at)stade.co.uk Adrian Wontroba 1 4 3 2 5 bajones(at)larkhill.win-uk.net Brian Jones 1 bellaire(at)iquest.net James Bellaire 3 4 5 1 2 BridgesM(at)logica.com Martin Bridges 2 3 1 ceerab(at)cee.hw.ac.uk Rod Begbie 1 2 3 chasm(at)ccl4.org James Lawson 2 1 chl(at)clw.cs.man.ac.uk Charles Lindsey 3 2 1 5 4 cudce(at)csv.warwick.ac.uk Jon Harley 2 1 3 Claire.Speed@mailhost.mcc.ac.uk Claire Speed 1 dave(at)clues.com Dave Williams 3 2 1 david(at)bloor.demon.co.uk David Bloor 1 3 2 4 5 duncan(at)dewar.softnet.co.uk Duncan Dewar 4 1 2 3 5 ellen(at)tictac.demon.co.uk Ellen Mizzell 1 george(at)zingaro.demon.co.uk George Flinter 5 2 3 4 1 gp(at)mamba.demon.co.uk Gavin Lawson 1 iain(at)hotch.demon.co.uk Iain Hotchkies 4 2 1 3 idaniel(at)jesus.ox.ac.uk Illtud Daniel 1 keith(at)cowtown.demon.co.uk Keith Willougby 2 1 3 j(at)jbark.demon.co.uk Jeremy Barker 2 3 4 1 jesus(at)heaven.co.uk "Jesus" 5 3 4 2 1 jonivar(at)ph.ed.ac.uk Jon Ivar Skullerud 1 3 2 jrd(at)merlyn.demon.co.uk John Stockton 5 2 3 4 1 leo(at)venturer.co.uk "leo" 1 2 marlsch(at)mail.zynet.co.uk Steve Soames 1 maxb(at)maxmax.demon.co.uk Max Bone 1 mayalld(at)postoffice.co.uk Dave Mayall 3 1 2 5 4 merlin(at)netlink.co.uk Darren Rees 1 5 4 2 3 michael(at)unicorn-connection.co.uk Michael Parry 4 2 1 3 5 mike(at)emgee.demon.co.uk Mike Cavanagh 1 M.A.Brown-4(at)sms.ed.ac.uk Mark Brown 5 2 3 4 1 nigel(at)ashton.demon.co.uk Nigel Ashton 1 4 3 2 octobersdad(at)reporters.net T Bruce Tober 1 3 4 2 5 pb10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk Paul Bolchover 3 1 2 4 5 peter(at)wppltd.demon.co.uk Peter Parry 1 Phil.Boswell(at)news.codd-date.co.uk Phil Boswell 5 1 2 4 3 robert.irvine(at)gecm.com Robert Irvine 2 3 4 1 5 robnews(at)nospam.demon.co.uk Rob Alexander 4 2 1 3 5 rcollier(at)atthome.demon.co.uk Richard Collier 3 4 1 2 5 richard(at)illuin.demon.co.uk Richard Letts 1 rpjs(at)kalevala.demon.co.uk Roy Stilling 4 1 2 3 sft(at)aegis1,demon.co.uk Stephen Tonkin 1 simon(at)star-one.org.uk Simon Gray 2 1 S.W.Hopper(at)sussex.ac.uk Simon Hopper 4 2 5 3 1 slewin(at)zetnet.co.uk Steve Lewin 2 1 3 tfl(at)psp.co.uk Thomas Lee 2 3 1 Votes Rejected djones(at)demon.borve.co.uk Spamblock Dom(at)i-cubed.co.uk.REMOVE Spamblock hilde(at)demon.borve.co.uk Spamblock ncf(at)demon.borve.co.uk Spamblock Votetakers Comments ------------------- A relatively smooth vote to run, although the level of spamblock was a bit silly, several people managed to revote after realizing that they had spamblocked themselves. I am going to have to think about nospam.demon.co.uk at some point after I have fully grokked the nature of service. I realize that most spamblocks are easy to resolve, but I either have to resolve them all or none. The vast majority of people managed to send back a full ballot, which helped processing no end. -- Iain D. Bowen - Volunteer Votetaker, UK-VOTING. voting(at)harlech.demon.co.uk please use alaric(at)harlech.demon.co.uk for personal mail. UK-VOTING web pages are at http://www.harlech.demon.co.uk/ukvoting.htm