Xref: clerew uk.net.news.announce:946 uk.net.news.config:38545 uk.railway:45131 uk.transport:20579 Path: clerew!cs.man.ac.uk!yama.mcc.ac.uk!pln-w!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!news.oru.edu!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!illuin.demon.co.uk!control From: voting@mort.demon.co.uk (Malcolm Mladenovic) Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.transport,uk.railway,uk.local.london,misc.transport.urban-transit Subject: uk.transport.london PASSES Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:23:46 GMT Sender: Richard Letts Approved: Richard Letts Message-ID: Reply-To: control@usenet.org.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: illuin.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: illuin.demon.co.uk [158.152.202.79] X-No-Archive: Yes Lines: 305 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Creation of newsgroup uk.local.london.transport/uk.london.transport ------------------------------------------------------------------- Result ====== Newsgroup uk.transport.london PASSES Preferred 50:44 against uk.local.london.transport. Newsgroup creation succeeds 86:14 against No Group. Voter List ========== Valid ballots were received from the following: Robert Forsythe: robert.forsythe.rmep.demon.co.uk Mike Pitt: mikepitt.chiark.pea.greenend.org.uk Paul Duree: eep1pd.ee.eaus.surrey.ac.uk Ian B Snowdon: Snowy.reec.isnowdon.demon.co.uk Phil Culmer: heretic.spuddy.kmr.mew.co.uk Richard Letts: richard.illuin.gbyc.demon.co.uk Matthew Balyuzi: matt.matthewb.tog.demon.co.uk Steve Blighton: steve.blighton.dial.gkeml.pipex.com T Lee: tfl.slea.psp.co.uk J. J. Farrell: jjf.fjcomp.ntte.com Colin Leech: crleech.freenet.carleton.takt.ca Tobias Erle: tobias.bct.erle.gmx.net Alan Cheilek: cheilek.ssfci.cisco.com Andy Mabbett: amabbett.bham-assist.towc.demon.co.uk Lyn David Thomas: lyn.stuffing.jhogn.demon.co.uk martin w m bryant: mwmb.papanui.kiego.win-uk.net Christian P. Hansen: chris.sfwn.hansenhome.demon.co.uk Darren Meldrum: darren.wfeso.meldrum.co.uk Tim Green: lime.nefh.oaktree.co.uk Colin Cockerill: cdlc.hencomp.win-uk.bbfkt.net Theo van Riet: tvanriet.macbel.cdomo.be Lisa Webb: lisa.apc.ncbib.cix.co.uk James Lawson: chasm.ucsir.ccl4.org Phil Hunt: philh.dtjfa.vision25.demon.co.uk Claire Speed: Claire.Speed.nessie.tnras.mcc.ac.uk Martin Bridges: BridgesM.kwlc.logica.com Craig Antill: craig.ldceb.titangb.demon.co.uk John Blake: johnpbl.mae.globalnet.co.uk Chris Livsey: cjl.csl.ocrixon.demon.co.uk David Miles: david.gbfd.networkdesigns.demon.co.uk Colin Rosenstiel: rosenstiel.nrn.cix.co.uk Stephen Gower: sjg.k2.roag.stcatz.ox.ac.uk SJFBeckwith: me.nak.steves.org.uk Tony Walton: tony.walton.UK.Sun.laws.COM John S.Robinson: jsr.ggjpi.bcs.org.uk David Connor: dconnor.lvkfl.dircon.co.uk John Szmigielski: john.grppn.computel.demon.co.uk C Norrie: Charles.geodeon.njbe.demon.co.uk nIGEL mARSHALL: nigel_marshall.esf.nvm.globalnet.co.uk Roland Perry: roland.nlv.perry.co.uk PRAR: prar.snfg.vossnet.co.uk Mark Collis: mwc22.hermes.ioeeh.cam.ac.uk Aidan Folkes: af6715.hgltj.bristol.ac.uk Arwel Parry: arwel.cartref.naruc.demon.co.uk Simon Gray: simon.puoa.star-one.org.uk James Farrar: james.farrar.gbf.ic.ac.uk Ian Jelf: ian.yksh.bluebadge.demon.co.uk Jim Jaworski: soo696.freenet.stepg.mb.ca David R. Winters: wintersx.wdht.yahoo.com Annabel Smyth: Annabel.jafc.amsmyth.demon.co.uk Barry Salter: 9an82.jie.dial.pipex.com Steve Fitzgerald: steve.g7kkh.rseme.demon.co.uk Dan Glover: dan.dangl.anl.demon.co.uk David Richards: david.richards.dv-8.ohvts.demon.co.uk Alex Holden: alex.alexh.clara.dfe.net Dave Mayall: david.mayall.fmwr.ukonline.co.uk John Mara: JOHNMARA.prodigy.klmrd.net Mike Cattell: MCattell.mikecat.jtca.demon.co.uk Dave jw Day: news97d.stejonda.paa.demon.co.uk Mike Newman: mike.greatnorthern.tsaea.prestel.co.uk James Kemp: jas.jmkemp.gboct.demon.co.uk Alan Fleming: af.iaint.contract.co.uk Mike Arm: arm.iname.pbd.com John C. Elliott: john.elliott.vhf.mail.ndirect.co.uk Andy Savage: Andy.hiljarv.ege.demon.co.uk Nigel Cliffe: ncliffe.pdrs.hfnet.bt.co.uk David Spencer: dave.dsds.pgmdi.demon.co.uk Al Holmes: al.fawbc.alih.dircon.co.uk Andrew Wineberg: A.gbto.Wineberg.btinternet.com Gary Skinner: gary.skinner.uae.ukonline.co.uk Kevin Lee: keltia4.dial.amds.pipex.com Tim Gowen: tim.equipoise.demon.ltp.co.uk.anti-spam Gareth Rowlands: gareth.lightfox.rln.demon.co.uk Michael Parry: michael.ptod.unicorn-connection.co.uk Paul Bolchover: pb10003.awhbt.cus.cam.ac.uk Tim Miller: tm6248.fsit.bristol.ac.uk David Chamberlain: david.hdt.leguer.demon.co.uk Pete Humble: pjh1.mlode.leicester.ac.uk Tim Walls: walls.prl.vghbn.research.philips.com Martin Rich: M.mle.G.Rich.city.ac.uk Chris Richardson: foop.sg4.pst.pcy.kcl.ac.uk Paul Franklin: paul.tidbf.cd.co.uk Mark Ynys-Mon: mcy.tap.demon.net Anthony Matheson: Anthony.dsd.Matheson.amath.demon.co.uk Russell Schulz: Russell_Schulz.locutus.fch.ofb.org James Nash: J.ypeyi.Nash.mdx.ac.uk Charles Ellson: charles.ntrba.ellson.demon.co.uk Antony Marsden (Bod): A.D.Marsden.amme.itfk.salford.ac.uk Phil Clark: pjclark.enterprise.preu.net John C Haines: jhaines.eitp.argonet.co.uk Charles Lindsey: chl.iktum.clw.cs.man.ac.uk Andy Veitch: andrew.veitch.virgin.jlnk.net Mike Watson: mike.wfh.d-m-g.demon.co.uk John Rowland: johnr.sepac.tenet.co.uk Nick Leverton: leveret.gjkb.warren.demon.co.uk Steve Peake: puppet.pop.dial.leei.pipex.com P F Vincent: peter.vincefam.afm.demon.co.uk ANNA Warman: ANNA.warman.aprfc.demon.co.uk Steve Fagg: nightwol.vja.dircon.co.uk Stephen D. Way: steveway.amyk.ways.demon.co.uk Bancroft Gracey: bancroft.ekn.shoebox.win-uk.net Ballots ======= The ballots for each voter were are follows: ullt: uk.local.london.transport utl: uk.transport.london sq: status quo (no newsgroup) Voter Name ullt utl sq Preference order ====================================================== Robert Forsythe: 2 1 - utl ullt Mike Pitt: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Paul Duree: 2 1 - utl ullt Ian B Snowdon: 1 2 - ullt utl Phil Culmer: 1 2 - ullt utl Richard Letts: - - 2 sq Matthew Balyuzi: 2 3 1 sq ullt utl Steve Blighton: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq T Lee: - - 1 sq J. J. Farrell: - 1 - utl Colin Leech: 2 1 - utl ullt Tobias Erle: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Alan Cheilek: 1 2 - ullt utl Andy Mabbett: 2 1 - utl ullt Lyn David Thomas: 1 2 - ullt utl martin w m bryant: 1 - - ullt Christian P. Hansen: 2 1 - utl ullt Darren Meldrum: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Tim Green: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Colin Cockerill: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Theo van Riet: 3 1 2 utl sq ullt Lisa Webb: 2 1 - utl ullt James Lawson: - - 1 sq Phil Hunt: - - - Claire Speed: 3 1 2 utl sq ullt Martin Bridges: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Craig Antill: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq John Blake: 1 2 - ullt utl Chris Livsey: 2 1 - utl ullt David Miles: 2 1 - utl ullt Colin Rosenstiel: 2 1 - utl ullt Stephen Gower: 1 2 - ullt utl SJFBeckwith: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Tony Walton: 1 2 - ullt utl John S.Robinson: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq David Connor: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq John Szmigielski: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq C Norrie: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq nIGEL mARSHALL: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Roland Perry: 1 2 - ullt utl PRAR: 1 2 - ullt utl Mark Collis: 1 2 - ullt utl Aidan Folkes: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Arwel Parry: 1 2 - ullt utl Simon Gray: 1 - 2 ullt sq James Farrar: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Ian Jelf: 2 1 - utl ullt Jim Jaworski: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq David R. Winters: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Annabel Smyth: 2 1 - utl ullt Barry Salter: 1 2 - ullt utl Steve Fitzgerald: - - 1 sq Dan Glover: 1 2 - ullt utl David Richards: 2 1 - utl ullt Alex Holden: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Dave Mayall: 3 1 2 utl sq ullt John Mara: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Mike Cattell: - 1 - utl Dave jw Day: 2 1 - utl ullt Mike Newman: 2 1 - utl ullt James Kemp: - 1 - utl Alan Fleming: - 2 1 sq utl Mike Arm: 2 1 - utl ullt John C. Elliott: 1 2 - ullt utl Andy Savage: 2 1 - utl ullt Nigel Cliffe: 2 1 - utl ullt David Spencer: 1 - - ullt Al Holmes: 2 1 - utl ullt Andrew Wineberg: 2 1 - utl ullt Gary Skinner: 1 - - ullt Kevin Lee: 3 2 1 sq utl ullt Tim Gowen: 1 2 - ullt utl Gareth Rowlands: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Michael Parry: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Paul Bolchover: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Tim Miller: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq David Chamberlain: - - 1 sq Pete Humble: 1 3 2 ullt sq utl Tim Walls: 1 2 - ullt utl Martin Rich: 1 2 - ullt utl Chris Richardson: 1 - - ullt Paul Franklin: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq Mark Ynys-Mon: 2 1 - utl ullt Anthony Matheson: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Russell Schulz: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq James Nash: 1 - 2 ullt sq Charles Ellson: - - 1 sq Antony Marsden (Bod): 1 2 - ullt utl Phil Clark: 1 2 - ullt utl John C Haines: 1 2 - ullt utl Charles Lindsey: 1 2 3 ullt utl sq Andy Veitch: 1 - - ullt Mike Watson: 2 1 3 utl ullt sq John Rowland: 2 1 - utl ullt Nick Leverton: 1 2 - ullt utl Steve Peake: 2 1 - utl ullt P F Vincent: 3 2 1 sq utl ullt ANNA Warman: 1 2 - ullt utl Steve Fagg: 1 3 2 ullt sq utl Stephen D. Way: 1 - - ullt Bancroft Gracey: 2 1 - utl ullt Count ===== This vote was counted using the 'stop-gap' procedure specified by the UK Usenet Committee. PASS 1: Alternative vote, ignoring status quo option AV count: round 1 [status quo is ignored in pass 1] Ballots: 101, abstentions 7, quota 48 uk.local.london.transport: 44 uk.transport.london: 50 Option uk.transport.london with 50 reaches quota (48) PASS 2: Comparison of PASS 1 winner with status quo option Yes/No for uk.transport.london: YES: 86 NO: 14 ABS: 1 Result: Option uk.transport.london wins AV and passes +12 (72) v status quo Votetaker's Remarks =================== There were 101 valid ballots, including one abstention. Despite the relatively high turn-out, there was only one disallowed vote. One ballot contained a single 'x' against an option instead of a number. This was counted as a '1' for that option. One ballot was received from news@ and was returned with a request that it should be re-submitted from a non-admin address (a valid ballot was subsequently received). One ballot was recieved from username news97d. I had mixed feelings about this, but decided to allow it without requesting a re-submission. Four ballots didn't include the name in the appropriate place on the ballot paper. The name was extracted from the headers - note that under the procedures recently published by UK-VOTING these ballots would not be counted in future. Disallowed Votes ================ neilirving@nospam.demon.co.uk nospam.demon invalid - -- Malcolm Mladenovic - Volunteer Votetaker, UK-VOTING. voting@mort.demon.co.uk please use mbm@acm.org for personal mail UK-VOTING web pages are at http://www.harlech.demon.co.uk/ukvoting.htm voting@mort.demon.co.uk PGP key: http://www.mort.demon.co.uk/pgp/voting.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNQrB52rgO5yjpT05AQGUhgP/dnYJ+FX+qmc8yj0AN5ANVfDifVkwul3D pgfecv9nrxTsFgpsX8y5L8aweSZDQ/zS8Z5PRO8d0Fz7NxLRQJJFKmyHkMBz1DYC oJnxt2Qpw+9LllrhW9skwNBszzjN/NLKXySXTlTNdUEGnMteF3J7f6D7AP/8TKxb 0h7QXdKxnfI= =uVlA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----