Path: oaktree.co.uk!ewrotcd!feed-ewrotcd!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!server1.netnews.ja.net!fu-berlin.de!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: alan@whirlnet.co.uk (Alan Ford) Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,sci.philosophy.meta,talk.philosophy.misc,alt.philosophy Subject: RESULTS: Creation of uk.philosophy.misc PASSES 50:5 Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:50:40 GMT Sender: control@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Approved: Charles Lindsey acting as control Message-ID: X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 951326060 mail2news:28668 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!probity.mcc.ac.uk!nessie.mcc.ac.uk!clw.cs.man.ac.uk Lines: 213 Xref: oaktree.co.uk uk.net.news.announce:1683 uk.net.news.config:83654 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Creation of new newsgroup uk.philosophy.misc PASSES 50:5:6 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Voting began Friday, 28 January 1999 Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, Friday 18 February 1999 Proponent: Geoff Berrow Votetaker: alan@whirlnet.co.uk (Alan Ford) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Distribution: These results have been posted to: uk.net.news.announce uk.net.news.config sci.philosophy.meta talk.philosophy.misc alt.philosophy - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Voting Summary: The Rationale, Summary of Discussion, and Charter follow the main results for informational purposes. YES : 50 (82%) NO : 5 (8%) ABSTAIN : 6 (10%) TOTAL : 61 YES MAJORITY : 45 There were a total of 61 valid votes. YES beat NO by a majority of 45. This is above the majority of 12 that is required for a vote to pass. There were 6 abstentions. There were no invalid votes. There will be a five day discussion period after these results have been posted before the group is created to allow for any allegations of irregularities to be raised. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Votetaker's Comments: A lot of people voted in this vote, and the result at the end was incredibly clear. With only five NO votes this must be one of the clearest majorities in a vote for a long time. This vote can probably be used as a fair sample of the opinion regarding the entire uk.philosophy.* subhierarchy as a whole. Once again (now for three votes in a row -- wow!) nobody made a mess of their ballot papers for me. Which was nice. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Results in Full: Aidan Folkes aidan@celestis@freeserve@OC@KU Y Alan Fleming af@contract@OC@KU Y Alex Dawson alex@dawson@uea@ac@KU Y Alex Holden votes@alexh@clara@OC@KU Y Andrew Norman nja@le@ac@KU Y Andy Roberts andyrobts@zetnet@OC@KU Y Barry Dorrans barryd@bann@OC@KU Y Bill Snyder wsnyder@sciti@OCm Y Bob Williams bob@williams@drbobw@demon@OC@KU Y Brett Paul Dunbar brett@dimetrodon@demon@OC@KU Y Bryan Kennerley bryank@btinternet@OCm Y Calum MacLeod mmacle@scri@sari@ac@KU Y Charles F Hankel charles@hankel@mersinet@OC@KU Y Chris Croughton chris@keris@demon@OC@KU Y Danny Collman ddcollman@hwthwood@demon@OC@KU Y Dave Sparks Dave@Sparks@sisyphus@demon@OC@KU Y Denis F bedfordtlfan@yahoo@OCm Y Doug Weller dweller@ramtops@demon@OC@KU Y Ellen Mizzell uphmvote@teasel@OC@KU Y Geoff (Blade-Runner) black-dog@geocities@OCm Y Harlequin harlequin@fnord@org@KU Y Jason Waghorn wj@tesco@ENt Y Jeffrey Goldberg J@Goldberg@Cranfield@ac@KU Y Jezza jezza@hotwells@freeserve@OC@KU Y Jim Benton-Evans jim@benton-evans@demon@OC@KU Y John B jcb@avism@demon@OC@KU Y Leo Vegoda leo@vegoda@ROg Y Livia Mitson livia@wheelwright@ENt Y Mark Etherington mark@roxley@demon@OC@KU Y Martin Dann mdann@j9to56@demon@OC@KU Y Mike Fleming mike@tauzero@OC@KU Y Mike Henry mike@tw2@OCm Y Mike Tan mike@duntone@demon@OC@KU Y Molly Mockford molly@orbs@demon@OC@KU Y Nick Regan nick@nregan@OC@KU Y Paul Leake P@J@Leake@durham@ac@KU Y Peter Humphrey prh@essence@demon@OC@KU Y Phil Wade philwade@bigfoot@OCm Y Philip Powell philip@blencathra@demon@OC@KU Y simon gray simon@star-one@org@KU Y St Mym news@druidic@ROg Y Steve Wright steve@wrightnet@demon@OC@KU Y Susan Ashton susan@ashton@demon@OC@KU Y Terrance Richard Boyes tez@pierrot@OC@KU Y Tim Bray tim@kooky@ROg Y Tim Brutton tim@arcady@demon@OC@KU Y Tim Walls tim@snowgoons@fsnet@OC@KU Y tobias erle vote-uk@kholdan@snafu@DE Y Tony tony@darkstorm@OC@KU Y webhamster/Angelfish mmm27@cam@ac@KU Y Dave Mason dave@lowjobs@OC@KU N Pekka P Pirinen ppp@pirinen@demon@OC@KU N Philip Baker phil@thalasson@OCm N {R} {R}@semolina@ROg N Richard Clayton richard@turnpike@OCm N Alex D Baxter alex-news@oenone@demon@OC@KU A Anthony Naggs amn@ubik@demon@OC@KU A David Damerell damerell@chiark@greenend@ROg@KU A James Farrar james@sfgiants22@freeserve@OC@KU A Peter Alfredsen peteralf@mailme@DK A Tim Miller tm9829@bristol@ac@KU A YES 50 NO 5 ABSTAIN 6 TOTAL 61 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RATIONALE: The purpose of the RFD was to discuss the creation of an initial group in the uk.philosophy hierarchy. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PROPONENT'S SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION Discussion was minimal with the main item being the name of the group. This was resolved by straw poll. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NEWSGROUPS LINES: uk.philosophy.misc General discussion of philosophy PROPOSED CHARTER: uk.philosophy.misc General philosophy discussion where no other more suitable group exists. Typically, topics include: a, the pursuit of wisdom; b, the search for a general understanding of values and reality by chiefly speculative rather than observational means; c, the grounds of, and concepts expressing, fundamental beliefs. ADVERTISING: Advertising is forbidden. BINARIES & FORMATTING: Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or ftp site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where authentication is important and should be as short as possible. WARNING: Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their "postmaster" and/or Service Provider. END CHARTER - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOLPztmOfGXkh8vHZAQG3pwP/W+3P3xIfwCq2Z9zAuaJt9Vwy7oToRCBG C/Ztd5oI+E4l3wcq7vd+3WRJ8CAnOkN2Xfx0t6jl4pXG6lrcvnZ4LMW0vu1wsb2d 5kWGhX3PEEczZG5VVYyeITvM/h6dszPg3W9go/swVmEHBt4ZJGhG8MHUbokwumBi E5Ek6Ya7Drc= =uIZf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Alan Ford UKVoting Votetaker