21 Dec 1997: uk.people.*.epilepsy & uk.people.*.mult-sclerosis
From: SJF Beckwith <me@steves.org.uk>
Date: 21 Dec 1997 15:30:50 -0000
Subject: RESULT: CFV Creation of Epilepsy and Multiple Sclerosis Newsgroups
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce,uk.people.disability,alt.support.epilepsy,alt.support.mult-sclerosis
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Creation of newsgroups uk.people.*.epilepsy and
uk.people.*.mult-sclerosis
Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 19th December, 1997.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party member of
UK-VOTING. UK-VOTING is a group of independent votetakers who count
votes on CFV's in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is
taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at
the following URL:
ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting
For voting questions only contact me@steves.org.uk (SJF Beckwith).
For questions about the proposed new newsgroups contact the proposer
at dferguson@sol.co.uk (Dave Ferguson)
DISTRIBUTION:
uk.net.news.announce uk.net.news.config uk.people.disability
alt.support.epilepsy alt.support.mult-sclerosis
RESULTS:
111 valid votes were recieved (Details can be found below).
3 invalid votes were recieved (Details can be found below).
Vote 1
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"Both groups" wins by a majority of 90.
Both = 96
None = 1
EpOnly = 1
MSOnly = 6
Abstained = 7
Vote 2
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"uk.people.support.*" wins by a majority of 18
The AV dissemination follows...
people = 38
disability = 8
health = 15
support = 44
no groups = 1
Eliminate "no groups" and redistribute, gives
people = 38
disability = 8
health = 15
support = 45
Eliminate "disability" and redistribute, gives
people = 38
health = 19
support = 47
Eliminate "health" and redistribute, gives
people = 42
support = 60
Applying the +12 rule, gives
42 + 12 = 54 < 60, therefore the option uk.people.support.* was
favoured by more voters.
Given these results, the following groups should be created with
their respective charters as ammended.
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NEWSGROUP:
uk.people.support.epilepsy
SUMMARY:
uk.people.support.epilepsy Epilepsy & treatment in the UK
RATIONALE:
Although there are international groups on this subject the amount of
US based discussion outweighs the UK discussion to the point of
swamping it.
There are also problems with matters such as:
i) The US refers to weight in pounds while we use stones
ii) Drugs have different names there and here
iii) Some US drugs are not licensed in the UK
Therefore the proponent feels that a UK based group for this matter
will be beneficial to the people in the UK who wish to discuss them.
The creation of this group should not affect the operation of the
existing groups - it is hoped they can run happily in parallel.
CHARTER:
Charter for the unmoderated group uk.people.support.epilepsy
Newsgroup Entry:
uk.people.support.epilepsy Epilepsy & treatment in the UK
Advertising: Advertising is forbidden.
Content: This group is for discussion of the illness epilepsy
and surrounding matters. This includes current
treatments in the UK, drugs available through both
private and NHS means, symptoms and support
mechanisms.
Users of the group are expected to behave in a
civilized manner and to stay on topic.
Binaries: Binaries are not permitted at all. Directions to
other sources of binaries (e.g. web pages or ftp
sites) are allowed.
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NEWSGROUP:
uk.people.support.mult-sclerosis
SUMMARY:
uk.people.support.mult-sclerosis Multiple sclerosis & treatment in
the UK
RATIONALE:
Although there are international groups on this subject the amount of
US based discussion outweighs the UK discussion to the point of
swamping it.
There are also problems with matters such as:
i) The US refers to weight in pounds while we use stones
ii) Drugs have different names there and here
iii) Some US drugs are not licensed in the UK
Therefore the proponent feels that a UK based group for this matter
will be beneficial to the people in the UK who wish to discuss them.
The creation of this group should not affect the operation of the
existing groups - it is hoped they can run happily in parallel.
CHARTER:
Charter for the unmoderated group uk.people.support.mult-sclerosis
Newsgroup Entry:
uk.people.support.mult-sclerosis Multiple sclerosis & treatment in
the UK
Advertising: Advertising is forbidden.
Content: This group is for discussion of the illness multiple
sclerosis and surrounding matters. This includes
current treatments in the UK, drugs available through
both private and NHS means, symptoms and support
mechanisms.
Users of the group are expected to behave in a
civilized manner and to stay on topic.
Binaries: Binaries are not permitted at all. Directions to
other sources of binaries (e.g. web pages or ftp
sites) are allowed.
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Valid Votes
In order to be able to display the results I have given each valid voter
a number, it is located on the extreme left hand side. To see how each
individual voter voted, please compare this against the number in the
extreme left hand side fo the table that follows it.
# Name Email Address
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1 A Bournes tone{'at'}antb.demon.co.u,k
2 Adrian Fletcher cpag{'at'}globalnet.co.u,k
3 Alan Fleming af{'at'}contract.co.u,k
4 Alex D Baxter a.baxter{'at'}ic.ac.u,k
5 Alex Ray ajtr2{'at'}cam.ac.u,k
6 Allison Linneken allison{'at'}gwi.ne,t
7 Andi Carey ukv{'at'}amcarey.demon.co.u,k
8 Andrew C Bray andy{'at'}chaos.org.u,k
9 Andrew King andy{'at'}the-barn.demon.co.u,k
10 Andrew Norman nja{'at'}le.ac.u,k
11 Andy Mabbett amabbett{'at'}bham-assist.demon.co.u,k
12 Anthony R. Gold tgold{'at'}panix.co,m
13 Anton Jackson antonj{'at'}antonj.demon.co.u,k
14 Arwel Parry arwel{'at'}cartref.demon.co.u,k
15 Barbara Mapes bmapes1{'at'}earthlink.ne,t
16 C. Newport crn{'at'}netix.org.u,k
17 Carol ATeasd5941{'at'}aol.co,m
18 Charles Lindsey chl{'at'}clw.cs.man.ac.u,k
19 Chris Gilliard Chris{'at'}gilliard.cix.co.u,k
20 Chris Griffiths chrisg{'at'}zed-inst.co.u,k
21 Chris M. Dickson chris{'at'}dickson.demon.co.u,k
22 Claire Speed c.speed{'at'}mcc.ac.u,k
23 Clemence Schultze C.E.Schultze{'at'}durham.ac.u,k
24 Clive Martin Clive{'at'}cmartin.demon.co.u,k
25 Craig A Willmott craig.willmott{'at'}virgin.ne,t
26 Cy Williams cydel{'at'}pacbell.ne,t
27 Darren Meldrum darren_usenet{'at'}meldrum.co.u,k
28 Dave Budd D.Budd{'at'}mcc.ac.u,k
29 Dave Mayall david.mayall{'at'}ukonline.co.u,k
30 Dave Roberts dave{'at'}darob.demon.co.u,k
31 David Damerell damerell{'at'}chiark.greenend.org.u,k
32 David Ferguson dferguson{'at'}sol.co.u,k
33 David Robinson dave{'at'}icepop.demon.co.u,k
34 David Spencer dave{'at'}dsds.demon.co.u,k
35 Doug Weller dweller{'at'}ramtops.demon.co.u,k
36 Edward H. Currie ecurrie{'at'}netcomuk.co.u,k
37 Edward King eaking{'at'}ulape.demon.co.u,k
38 Emma McMullan emma{'at'}shape-london.u-net.co,m
39 Ginny Sanchez ginny{'at'}hicom.ne,t
40 Hellmer Schmidt hellmer_schmidt{'at'}interconti.co,m
41 Iain Morrison iain{'at'}envision.demon.co.u,k
42 Iain Rowan irowan{'at'}netcomuk.co.u,k
43 Ian Peattie ian{'at'}johnrich.demon.co.u,k
44 J L Williams j.l.williams{'at'}zetnet.co.u,k
45 James Farrar james.farrar{'at'}ic.ac.u,k
46 James Kemp james{'at'}jmkemp.demon.co.u,k
47 James Lawson chasm{'at'}ccl4.or,g
48 Janet Willims janet{'at'}hartstreet.demon.co.u,k
49 Jim Hill jim{'at'}jh-c.demon.co.u,k
50 Joanne Batson martini{'at'}codenet.ne,t
51 John Morgan J.Morgan{'at'}btinternet.co,m
52 Kate Grey sqrg{'at'}sqrg.demon.co.uk
53 Katharine Seagram beach{'at'}ils.ne,t
54 Ken Rowland KRowl65135{'at'}aol.co,m
55 Kevin J Mayers kevinmayers{'at'}lineone.ne,t
56 Kevin Davies kevin_davies{'at'}bigfoot.co,m
57 Kevin Lee krl{'at'}keltia4.prestel.co.u,k
58 Laura Fenzl Laura{'at'}netexp.ne,t
59 Lewis Strassberg las1{'at'}pipeline.co,m
60 Lyn David Thomas lyn{'at'}stuffing.demon.co.u,k
61 Mark Goodge mark{'at'}good-stuff.co.u,k
62 Martin Bly bly{'at'}star.rl.ac.u,k
63 Martin Rush mrush{'at'}cix.compulink.co.u,k
64 Mary Woolliscroft keithmary.woolliscroft{'at'}virgin.ne,t
65 Maurice George mauriceg{'at'}mauriceg.demon.co.u,k
66 Mike Cassidy mike_cassidy{'at'}interconti.co,m
67 Mike Kelly mike{'at'}m-kelly.demon.co.u,k
68 Mike Pitt mikepitt{'at'}chiark.greenend.org.u,k
69 Neil Fernandez ncf{'at'}borve.demon.co.u,k
70 Neil Irving neil{'at'}neilirving.demon.co.u,k
71 Nick Sheeran Nick_Sheeran{'at'}caradon.co,m
72 Norma Parry norma{'at'}h-and-onews.demon.co.u,k
73 Owen Bevan owen{'at'}owenb.demon.co.u,k
74 Owen Lewis O.W.Lewis{'at'}warwick.ac.u,k
75 P Parry peter{'at'}wppltd.demon.co.u,k
76 Patrick Herring ph{'at'}anweald.exnet.co.u,k
77 Paul Bolchover pb10003{'at'}cus.cam.ac.u,k
78 Paul Carpenter paul{'at'}pcserv.demon.co.u,k
79 Paul L. Allen pla{'at'}sktb.demon.co.u,k
80 Pekka P. Pirinen ppp{'at'}pirinen.demon.co.u,k
81 Pete Humble pjh1{'at'}le.ac.u,k
82 Peter Thomas p.thomas{'at'}zetnet.co.u,k
83 Phil Clark pjclark{'at'}enterprise.ne,t
84 Phil Hunt philh{'at'}vision25.demon.co.u,k
85 Randy Linton randyll{'at'}clarkston.co,m
86 Ric Batson rbatson{'at'}iname.co,m
87 Richard Clayton richard{'at'}turnpike.co,m
88 Richard Lamont richard{'at'}stonix.demon.co.u,k
89 Robert Irvine robbie{'at'}arakeen.demon.co.u,k
90 Robert Tusler rtusler{'at'}unforgettable.co,m
91 Roy Stilling rpjs{'at'}kalevala.demon.co.u,k
92 S.W.F. Borthwick swfb{'at'}bokop.win-uk.ne,t
93 Sarah Clayton sarah{'at'}sattva.demon.co.u,k
94 Sarah Freed delphinus{'at'}which.ne,t
95 Scott Watson watson{'at'}isp.net.u,k
96 Shaun Hague shaunh{'at'}dtop.demon.co.u,k
97 Simon Gray simon{'at'}star-one.org.u,k
98 Simon Whitaker simon{'at'}whitaker.u-net.co,m
99 Stephen Gower sjg{'at'}k2.stcatz.ox.ac.u,k
100 S Wolstenholme steve{'at'}tropheus.demon.co.u,k
101 Steve Bloomer Steve{'at'}crowpark.demon.co.u,k
102 Steve Ellwood telecom{'at'}dircon.co.u,k
103 Steve Lewin slewin{'at'}zetnet.co.u,k
104 Steve Way steveway{'at'}ways.demon.co.u,k
105 Stuart Baldwin stuart{'at'}boxatrix.demon.co.u,k
106 Susan A. Francies MSFRancies{'at'}aol.com.u,k
107 Tim Forcer tmf{'at'}ecs.soton.ac.u,k
108 Toby Fisher toby{'at'}cottingham.u-net.co,m
109 Tony Towers wibble{'at'}fishblanket.demon.co.u,k
110 Vikash Shah vik{'at'}vshah.demon.co.u,k
111 Vivienne S Dunstan vd001{'at'}post.almac.co.u,k
How They Voted
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Vote 1 Vote 2
# Bot NoG Ep Ms Abs Peo Dis Hea Sup NoG
1 X 3 2 4 1 5
2 X 1 2 3 4 5
3 X 1 2 3
4 X 3 2 1
5 X 3 2 1
6 X 1 2 3
7 X 2 4 3 1 5
8 X 1 3 2 4
9 X 1
10 X 4 3 2 1 5
11 X 5 2 3 1 4
12 X 1
13 X
14 X 1 2
15 X 1
16 X 2 3 1
17 X 3 2 1 4
18 X 4 1 3 2 5
19 X 1 3 2 5 4
20 X
21 X 1 2 4 3 5
22 X
23 X 4 3 1 2 5
24 X 1 2
25 X 2 4 3 1 5
26 X 3 5 2 1 4
27 X 4 3 2 1 5
28 X 3 2 1 4 5
29 X 3 5 1 2 4
30 X 4 3 2 1 5
31 X 5 3 1 2 4
32 X 1 4 3 2 5
33 X 3 4 2 1 5
34 X 1 2 3 4 5
35 X 1
36 X 1 3 2
37 X 2 1 3
38 X 1 3 4 5 2
39 X 4 3 1 2
40 X 1 2 4 5 3
41 X 4 3 2 1
42 X 1 3 2 4
43 X 4 3 2 1
44 X 1 4 3 2 5
45 X 5 2 1 3 4
46 X 4 5 2 1 3
47 X 1
48 X 4 1 2 3
49 X 5 2 3 1 4
50 X 1 5 3 2 4
51 X 1 2 4 5 3
52 X 4 1 3 2 5
53 X 1 3 4 2
54 X 4 5 3 2 1
55 X 3 4 2 1 5
56 X 1 4 2 3 5
57 X 2 4 3 1 5
58 X 1
59 X 1 4 3 2 5
60 X 1 2 3 4
61 X 2 1
62 X 2 4 3 1
63 X 3 4 2 1 5
64 X 4 2 3 1 5
65 X 2 1
66 X 1 2 4 5 3
67 X 4 1 3 2 5
68 X
69 X 1 2 3 4 5
70 X 1 4 2 3
71 X 1 2 4 5 3
72 X 2 1
73 X 3 2 1
74 X 1 2 3
75 X 5 4 3 1 2
76 X 1 5 2 4 3
77 X 4 5 1 2 3
78 X 2 1 3
79 X 1
80 X 1 4 3 2
81 X 3 2 4 1 5
82 X 1 4 3 2 5
83 X 1
84 X 1 3 2 4
85 X 4 1 2 3 5
86 X 1 5 3 2 4
87 X 2 1 3
88 X 1 2 3 4
89 X 3 4 2 1 5
90 X 1 4 3 2
91 X 3 4 1 2 5
92 X 5 4 2 1 3
93 X 1 2 3
94 X 4 2 3 1
95 X 2 4 3 1 5
96 X 1 2
97 X 3 2 1 4
98 X 3 2 1
99 X 5 4 2 1 3
100 X 2 1
101 X 1 2
102 X 5 3 2 1 4
103 X 4 5 2 1 3
104 X 1 2
105 X 1 2 3 4
106 X
107 X 1 4 3 2 5
108 X 1 2
109 X 2 4 1 3
110 X 1 2 4 5 3
111 X 4 3 2 1
Invalid Votes
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Real name: Carl Henderson, voted from "BillGates@webtv.com" - Ack
bounced therefore the vote was ignored.
Real name:Graham Goldman, voted from "goldy1@parys.lia.net" - Ack
bounced therefore the vote was ignored.
Real name: Thomas Lee, voted from "tfl@nospam.demon.co.uk" - The domain
"nospam.demon.co.uk" is an illegal domain for voting purposes - Ack
bounced back to me by postmaster therefore the vote was ignored.
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SJF Beckwith, me@steves.org.uk
Deputy Co-ordinator and Votetaker, UK-VOTING
UK-VOTING web pages are at http://www.harlech.demon.co.uk/ukvoting.htm
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