RESULT - Creation of new newsgroup uk.adverts.holidays PASSES 15:3 Author: Jon Ribbens Email: jon@oaktree.co.uk Date: 1998/07/28 Forums: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.adverts.other Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Creation of new newsgroup uk.adverts.holidays PASSES 15:3 ====================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 15 Jul 1998. Proponent: crs@crowns.demon.co.uk (Edward McLean) Votetaker: jon@oaktree.co.uk (Jon Ribbens) ====================================================================== Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.adverts.other ====================================================================== YES beat NO by a majority of 12 votes, this is equal to the +12 majority required to beat the status quo. The results follow below, with the Rationale and Charter beneath them for informational purposes. Votes YES to the new newsgroup - total: 15 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ frogmore6_demon_co_uk: Colin Colin Price bigfoot_com: alexdawson Alex Dawson rmplc_net: ddunford David Dunford mcg-gsy_demon_co_uk: fran fran McGuinness calmeilles_demon_co_uk: matthew Matthew Malthouse enterprise_net: philwade Phil Wade waverider_co_uk: pmailkee Mike Paley dial_pipex_com: quillman Julian Curtis pixel-group_com: rick.martin Rick Martin tisl_co_uk: rob Rob Herbert ecs_soton_ac_uk: tmf Tim Forcer tagman_demon_co_uk: tony Tony Evans cableol_co_uk: upson Nick Upson erle_org: vote Tobias Erle valdena_demon_co_uk: voting AST Voted NO to the new newsgroup - total: 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ chiark_greenend_org_uk: ijackson Ian Jackson obeah_demon_co_uk: james James Coupe turnpike_com: richard Richard Clayton ABSTAINED from voting - total: 4 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cam_ac_uk: ajtr2 Alex Ray bham-assist_demon_co_uk: amabbett Andy Mabbett ccl4_org: chasm jAmES Lawson star-one_org_uk: simon Simon Gray ====================================================================== SUMMARY: , a newsgroup creating a medium for British individuals based in the UK or elsewhere, to offer activity holidays to the UK market. This is not intended for the large package holiday providers. RATIONALE: There are many thousands of people offering accommodation both in the UK and abroad (France, Spain, Italy, etc.) plus activities of interest to a wide and a special interest audience. Examples are: horseback riding, tennis, fishing, painting, swimming, on/off road bicycling, horse racing, film/cultural festivals, cooking schools, language schools, local cultural/historic tours, etc. For these small businesses it is very difficult to access the marketplace and at an affordable cost. The appropriate advertising media; general or special interest publications, newspapers (local & national) are very expensive, periodic and not very effective in reaching the potential clientele. All too often, the advertising expenditure necessary to generate custom, uses up most or all of the potential profit margin, thus making the activity unviable or marginal at best. This type of enterprise is often run by retired, semi-retired or redundant middle-aged persons looking to create a livelihood out of a home or holiday home along with a hobby or a professional interest. Examples could be a language school in a country home with accommodation, horseback riding with lessons in a vacation home, etc. Having a newsgroup for this type of venture enables them to access a much wider market quickly and cost effectively. It allows people to find a holiday that is something special, different and that offers activities they already practice or are interested in but have never tried. None of the existing newsgroups appear appropriate. Examples: these do not cover the subject rec.travel.bed&breakfast rec.travel.europe rec.travel.marketplace rec.travel.misc soc.culture.british THE GROUP: uk.adverts.holidays Adverts for non-package holidays THE CHARTER: This newsgroup provides a medium to bring together people looking for non-package activity holidays, based in the UK or abroad, together with enterprises who have the venues, structure and organisation to fill this need. BINARIES: Binaries are not permitted on this group, however references to FTP-able material and Web URL's are welcomed. ADVERTISING: Short (less than 20 lines) announcements of activities/events with amenities relevant to readers are permitted; blatant off-topic or commercial advertising (eg: large package holiday companies) is not. MODERATION: There will be no moderator for this newsgroup. ====================================================================== This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. Jon Ribbens - -- UKVoting. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBNb4pA2OfGXkh8vHZAQE/ewP7BZTeMBEn/lR0PtGJS72zPg8hHKkeCmMG FDOZ//X3ez2o26pTUDhM5GykwBkTzAJCWEylqqcqboyg5uDCFWJGFkwS7qwHnyhA 48PNzNlA8V5iv6V2gRAtPuBzAbe97Mm7ns6lUU0iWZbWiHK4CiAvf7n9cYyN0VPC y9Nyjq0Eb2c= =Adr5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----