03 Dec 1998: uk.people.dead

From: Robert Felton <swinny@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 1998 02:47:32 -0000
Subject: RESULTS - Creating new unmoderated newsgroup uk.people.dead
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce



	Summary: Creating new unmoderated newsgroup uk.people.dead

	 PROPOSAL - Create newsgroup uk.people.dead   PASSES 22:9

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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 12th November 1998.

Proponent: phoenixuk@bigfoot.com (Kathleen Walker)
Votetaker: votequestion@swinny.cix.co.uk (Rob Felton)

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uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config

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The Results:

The results follow below in the following order:

1) Result
2) Particulars of the Vote
3) Votetakers comments
4) Voting and Appeal guidelines
5) Rationale & Newsgroup charter

PROPOSAL - Create newsgroup uk.people.dead

YES = 22
NO = 9

YES beat NO by a majority of 13 votes, this is more than the +12
majority required to beat the status quo.

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The Particulars of the Vote

A = Abstain                                             PROPOSAL

Vernon Hampson     vhampson##netcomuk,uk??co                  Y
Darren Meldrum     darren##meldrum,uk??co                     N
john harris        harris##dmu,uk??ac                         Y
Andy Mabbett       amabbett##bham-assist.demon,uk??co         A
Stephen Gower      sjg##k2.stcatz.ox,uk??ac                   Y
Warren Ellis       WarrenE##aol,,com                          Y
Peter Bowyer       peter##unica,uk??co                        Y
Paul O'Rourke      Paul##wight.demon,uk??co                   N
Richard Ashton     richard##corixia.demon,uk??co              Y
John Lynch         jlynch##ldta.demon,uk??co                  Y
Alex Holden        votes##alexh.claranet,uk??co               A
richard letts      richard-vote##illuin.demon,uk??co          A
Richard Daniells   richdan##pncl,uk??co                       Y
T Lee              tfl##psp,uk??co                            A
Dave Mayall        mayalld##postoffice,uk??co                 Y
Jon Harley         Jon.Harley##warwick,uk??ac                 Y
Peter Riocreux     peter.riocreux##cs.man,uk??ac              Y
Tony Towers        tony##fishblanket.demon,uk??co             Y
SJFBeckwith        sjfb##cirra,,com                           A
Alex Dawson        alex.dawson##uea,uk??ac                    N
Joe Otten          joe.otten##virgin,,net                     Y
Rachael Munns      vashti##dream.org,,uk                      Y
Tim Emanuel        temanuel##proweb,uk??co                    Y
Phil Hunt          philh##vision25.demon,uk??co               Y
Daniel Toye        daniel.toye##cableol,uk??co                A
Chris M. Dickson   chris##dickson.demon,uk??co                Y
Tobias Erle        vote##kholdan.snafu,,de                    Y
Andrew Hunt        andy##vision25.demon,uk??co                Y
Bryan Kennerley    bk2##northwalesonline.freeserve,uk??co     Y
Andrew Smith       andy##mythic,,net                          Y
Darren Wyn Rees    merlin##netlink,uk??co                     N
Alan Fleming       af##contract,uk??co                        N
Lyn David Thomas   lyn##stuffing.demon,uk??co                 N
Mark Goodge        mark##good-stuff,uk??co                    N
Alex D. Baxter     alex##oenone.demon,uk??co                  N
James Coupe        james##obeah.demon,uk??co                  N
Martin Watson      martin##whitecross.demon,uk??co            Y

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Votetakers Notes:

This was a simple vote but close vote.

And I must apologise for the slight delay in announcing the result due to 
my time commitments within real life and the Committee Elections.

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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in
the uk hierarchy.  The rules under which this vote is taken are posted
regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:

The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to

Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.

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There is currently an increasing interest in death on the internet. The 
worldwide group alt.obituaries has a healthy traffic, fuelled by the 
growing popularity of "Dead Pools".

Many UK posters participate in alt.obituaries, and dead people are often 
discussed on uk.misc. The value of alt.obituaries is reduced by the 
inclusion of many bit part US entertainers, who have never been heard of 
outside the US, and a regular "who?" reaction from US posters whenever any 
famous UK personality is discussed.

Whilst this is not a group about dead pools, it is recognised that a large 
proportion of the traffic will arise as a result of those whose only 
interest in a death is the points it will score them.

Charter (with changes from 1st RFD):

Changes from the 1st RFD:

Clarifications as to the purpose of the group. It isn't about dead pools, 
it's about dead people. Because of dead pools there is a whole lot of 
people wanting to talk about dead people, they don't want to discuss the 
finer points of how to win this year's Lee Attwater.

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This group is for all discussion relating to dead people from a UK 
perspective. Postings are welcomed in respect of all dead people, whether 
famous or not, who had some connection with the UK.

Discussions of the mechanics and rules of the various dead pools will not 
be on-topic in this group, which will be concerned with who is dead, who 
isn't dead (even if their careers are), and who is likely to be dead soon.

Commercial advertising is forbidden, with the exception that the owners of 
www sites relating to death may post announce type messages no more 
frequently than once per month.

With the exception of PGP signatures, all encoded binaries (eg pictures, 
word processor files, .zip files etc), HTML, or similar non-plaintext 
postings are *forbidden*; such material should be placed on a web or FTP 
server and the URL posted.

Newsgroups line

uk.people.dead        UK obituaries and discussion of dead people

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Swinny - Rob Felton
Co-Ordinator, UKVoting (mailto:ukvoting@usenet.org.uk)

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