02 Apr 1999: uk.housing (hierarchy) and uk.housing.misc


From: hou1@vote.ukvoting.org.uk (Jon Ribbens)
Date: 2 Apr 1999 00:34:23 +0100
Subject: RESULT - uk.housing (hierarchy) FAILS 16:6
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce

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                      RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES

         Summary: uk.housing (hierarchy) and uk.housing.misc

             Create new hierarchy uk.housing FAILS 16:6

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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 27 March 1999.

Proponent: cudce@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Jon Harley)
Votetaker: hou1@vote.ukvoting.org.uk (Jon Ribbens)

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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config

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The Results:

The results follow below in the following order:

1) Result
2) Particulars of the Vote
3) Voting and Appeal guidelines
4) Rationale & Newsgroup charter

PROPOSAL - Create new hierarchy uk.housing

YES = 16
NO = 6
ABSTAIN = 4

YES beat NO by a majority of 10 votes, which is less than the 12
required to change the status quo. Therefore the proposal FAILS.

PROPOSAL - Create new newsgroup uk.housing.misc

Since the uk.housing hierarchy vote failed, the votes for the
proposed newsgroup uk.housing.misc were discarded and will not be
counted.

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The Particulars of the Vote

YES VOTES

Andy Roberts                                  uk_co_zetnet@andyrobts
Kevin Andreoli                        uk_co_freeserve_andreoli@kevin
Jane Andreoli                           com_btinternet@jane.andreoli
David Hughes                              uk_co_clara@troubleshooter
tobias erle                                 de_snafu_kholdan@vote-uk
Claire Speed                                       uk_ac_mcc@c.speed
William Boughton                             uk_co_demon_xencat@bill
Alex Ray                                             uk_ac_cam@ajtr2
Jonathan Burt                                uk_co_medinagroup@jb203
Phil Wade                                        com_bigfoot@pooters
Jon Harley                                  uk_ac_warwick@Jon.Harley
Rick Payne                                      uk_co_rossfell@rickp
Anthony R. Gold                                      com_panix@tgold
Adrian Vickers                          uk_co_demon_toolsbase@nospam
Roy Stilling                               uk_co_demon_kalevala@rpjs
dave day                               uk_co_demon_stejonda@ukvoting

NO VOTES

Malcolm Mladenovic                                       org_acm@mbm
Alex D. Baxter                          uk_co_demon_oenone@alex-news
Charles Lindsey                                 uk_ac_man_cs_clw@chl
Alex Dawson                                    uk_ac_uea@alex.dawson
Darren Wyn Rees                                 uk_co_netlink@merlin
Bill Davies                                      om_net_gto@billyboy

ABSTAIN

Robbie Irvine                                      nu_arrakis@robbie
SJFBeckwith                                           com_cirra@sjfb
neil p chue hong                                uk_ac_ed_tardis@npch
Andy Mabbett                          uk_co_demon_pigsonthewing@andy

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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on
CFVs in the uk hierarchy.  The rules under which this vote is taken
are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the
following URL:

ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting

The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted
to uk.net.news.announce.

Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk.

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Proposed hierarchy charter for uk.housing:

uk.housing is a hierarchy for the discussion of all aspects of
housing in the UK. This includes: architecture and the process of
house building; interior decoration; legal aspects of house buying,
selling and ownership including planning permission and
conveyancing; housing associations and co-operatives; renting,
letting and home ownership; all other aspects of living in housing.

"Housing" here includes houses, flats, maisonnettes, bunkers (where
inhabited) and any other type of home.

Advertisments are specifically not allowed in any groups in this
hierarchy, unless otherwise stated; use groups in the uk.adverts 
hierarchy. Political aspects of governmental involvement in housing
should be discussed in or under uk.politics.

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Rationale:

Housing is a huge issue which affects virtually everyone. It has so
many different aspects (see above) that without its own hierarchy,
groups relating to housing would have to be put in a variety of
other hierarchies. Creating a new hierarchy to group them together
will make groups easier to locate and provide room for many future
groups to be given a logical and meaningful name.

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Proposed charter for uk.housing.misc:

For the discussion of any housing-related issues for which there
isn't another more appropriate group.

Adverts and binaries are not allowed.

One-line summary:
uk.housing.misc General discussion of all types of housing in the UK.

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Rationale:

A .misc group should be created at the outset to provide a forum for
general housing discussion where there is no more appropriate group.

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