16 May 1999: uk.{telecom.adverts|adverts.telecom}.mobile
From: "Chris M. Dickson" <mobilevote@dickson.demon.co.uk>
Date: 16 May 1999 22:00:19 +0100
Subject: RESULT - uk.adverts.telecom.mobile CREATED
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.net.news.announce
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RESULT OF CFV ON CREATION OF uk.{telecom.adverts|adverts.telecom}.mobile
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Summary of results:
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The four options were: uk.telecom.adverts.mobile
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile
Status Quo
Re-Open Discussion
STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo:
uk.telecom.adverts.mobile preferred to Status Quo by 45 votes to 31
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile preferred to Status Quo by 63 votes to 9
Re-Open Discussion preferred to Status Quo by 34 votes to 29
Only uk.telecom.adverts.mobile and uk.adverts.telecom.mobile beat
Status Quo by 12 or more votes and so proceed to Stage Two.
STAGE TWO - Comparison of remaining options:
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile preferred to uk.telecom.adverts.mobile
by 42 votes to 33 and hence is the Condorcet winner.
Accordingly, a newsgroup called uk.adverts.telecom.mobile is created.
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT on Friday 23rd April 1999.
Proponent: p-dent@iboro.freeserve.co.uk (Peter Dent)
Votetaker: chris@dickson.demon.co.uk (Chris M. Dickson)
Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.telecom.mobile
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Results
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The results follow, with the rationale beneath for your information.
RAW PREFERENCES GRID FOR STAGE ONE
TAM ATM SQ ROD
uk.telecom.adverts.mobile: [n/a] [ 33] [ 45] [ 44]
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile: [ 42] [n/a] [ 63] [ 63]
Status Quo: [ 31] [ 9] [n/a] [ 29]
Re-Open Discussion: [ 31] [ 10] [ 34] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that
preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate
to the number's column. For instance, 42 votes preferred
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile to uk.telecom.adverts.mobile while 34 votes preferred
reopening the discussion to the Status Quo.
uk.telecom.adverts.mobile beat Status Quo by 45 votes to 31, a majority of at
least 12 votes, hence survives to Stage Two.
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile beat Status Quo by 63 votes to 9, a majority of at
least 12 votes, hence survives to Stage Two.
Re-Open Discussion beat Status Quo by 34 votes to 29, a majority of fewer than
12 votes, hence does not survive to Stage Two.
OPPOSITE COMPARISONS GRID FOR STAGE TWO
TAM ATM
uk.telecom.adverts.mobile: [n/a] [ -9]
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile: [ +9] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were
cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the
option appropriate to the number's row. Thus 9 more people preferred
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile to the uk.telecom.adverts.mobile than
preferred uk.telecom.adverts.mobile to uk.adverts.telecom.mobile.
As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive,
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile was preferred to all other options surviving to Stage
Two and hence wins the ballot.
Voting Particulars
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UTAM : preference awarded to uk.telecom.adverts.mobile
UATM : preference awarded to uk.adverts.telecom.mobile
SQ : preference awarded to Status Quo
ROD : preference awarded to Re-Opening Discussion
The preference legend is an alternative visual interpretation of each vote;
options joined by an = were given equal preference; all items to the left of a
> were preferred to all items on the right of it. In this legend, T refers to
uk.telecom.adverts.mobile, A refers to uk.adverts.telecom.mobile, S refers to
the Status Quo and R refers to Re-Opening the Discussion.
U U
T A R
A T S O
M M Q D Preference
Richard Ashton richard corixia.demon.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Tariq Atchia xycom netcomuk.co.uk 1 2 3 4 T > A > S > R
Mr. Anthony B. dodgy_pony hempseed.com 1 2 3 3 T > A > S = R
Chris Bannister cj moodog.demon.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Alasdair Baxter alasdair dram.demon.co.uk X T > A = S = R
James Bellaire bellaire tk.com 3 1 2 4 A > S > T > R
Dan Birkby daniel.birkby aethos.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Alex Blamey alexnn1 blamey.freeserve.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Simon Bonnick simon trimcase.com 2 1 3 2 A > T = R > S
Mike Bradley wmdb100 cam.ac.uk 1 T > A = S = R
Keith Brazington keith quetz.demon.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Martin G Bridges bridgesm logica.com 2 1 3 4 A > T > S > R
peter bruce news thule.demon.co.uk 3 2 4 1 R > A > T > S
Charles Bryant telad.vote.ch chch.demon.co.uk 3 2 1 S > A > T > R
Phil Buckley pbuckley mpc-data.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Paul Carpenter paul pcserv.demon.co.uk 4 1 3 2 A > R > S > T
David Clapham Dave community-spirit.demon.co.uk 1 3 4 2 T > R > A > S
Richard Clayton richard turnpike.com 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Mike Clements mjc mchome.demon.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Chris Clough Chrisc pobox.co.uk X A > T = S = R
Peter Corlett abuse verrine.demon.co.uk 3 2 1 R > S > A > T
Marc Cornelius cornelius vercor.demon.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
James Coupe james obeah.demon.co.uk 4 2 1 3 S > A > R > T
Ben Curtis bencurtis freenet.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
David Damerell damerell chiark.greenend.org.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Bill Davies billyboy gto.net.om 1 1 T = A > S = R
Alex Dawson alex.dawson uea.ac.uk 4 1 3 2 A > R > S > T
dave day ukvoting stejonda.demon.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Peter Dent p-dent iboro.freeserve.co.uk 1 2 3 4 T > A > S > R
John C. Elliott herbie tesco.net 1 T > A = R = S
Tobias Erle vote-uk kholdan.snafu.de 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Carl France carl.france klmukpilot.co.uk x T > A = R = S
Anthony R. Gold tgold panix.com 2 1 3 4 A > T > S > R
Simon Gray simon star-one.org.uk a b s t a i n
John Green jonsg harlequin.co.uk 2 1 A > T > S = R
Christian P. Hansen chris hansenhome.demon.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Bob Harvey bobharvey cix.co.uk 2 1 3 4 A > T > S > R
Mike Henry mike tw2.com 4 1 3 2 A > R > S > T
Jim Hill jim jh-c.demon.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Karel Hladky khladky khdesign.demon.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Gerard Houseman info bris-arts.freeserve.co.uk 1 4 3 2 T > R > S > A
Dave Hughes troubleshooter clara.co.uk 4 3 1 2 S > R > A > T
Chris Hunter chris-h monrepos.demon.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Peter Ilieve peter aldie.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Ian Jackson ijackson chiark.greenend.org.uk 4 1 3 2 A > R > S > T
Richard Kettlewell rjk greenend.org.uk 3 1 4 2 A > R > T > S
Edward King eaking ulape.demon.co.uk 4 2 1 3 S > A > R > T
jAmES Lawson chasm ccl4.org 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Charles Lindsey chl clw.cs.man.ac.uk 2 1 2 2 A > T = S = R
Andy Mabbett andy pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk a b s t a i n
David Mahon dmahon amigo.demon.co.uk 3 4 1 2 S > R > T > A
Rick Martin rick.martin pixel-group.com 1 1 T = A > S = R
Grant Mason grant mason1.freeserve.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Dave Mayall david.mayall ukonline.co.uk 3 1 2 2 A > S = R > T
Trevor J. McComb trevor.mccomb nics.gov.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Robert McKinney sms-robert usa.net 1 T > A = S = R
Tim Miller tm6248 bristol.ac.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Malcolm Mladenovic mbm acm.org 1 1 1 A = S = R > T
Richard Morris abuse the-pub.freeserve.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Conor O'Neill conor puddle.demon.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Dermot O'Riordan dermot oriordan.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Peter Parry peter wppltd.demon.co.uk 3 1 2 4 A > S > T > R
Alex Ray alex.ray cai.cam.ac.uk 4 1 3 2 A > R > S > T
Martin Redstone martynR bigfoot.com 1 2 - - T > A > S = R
Darren Wyn Rees merlin netlink.co.uk 1 2 S > R > T = A
Peter Riocreux peter.riocreux cs.man.ac.uk 1 2 T > A > S = R
Alan Robertson Alan_J_Robertson email.msn.com 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Andy Roberts andyrobts zetnet.co.uk 1 2 T > R > A = S
Barry Salter barrykas salterg.demon.co.uk 3 1 4 2 A > R > T > S
Thomas Schodt tschodt uryd.demon.co.uk 2 2 1 R > T = A > S
Nigel Sinfield nige wg.icl.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Andrew Smith andrew.smithh usa.net 1 3 2 T > R > S > A
Gary Smith shadyron total-bollo.cx 2 1 3 4 A > T > S > R
Sunil Sood news soods.freeserve.co.uk 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Dave Sparks Dave.Sparks sisyphus.demon.co.uk 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Tony Walton tony.walton uk.sun.com 2 1 4 3 A > T > R > S
Allister Watson allister joppa.demon.co.uk 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Paul Womar Vote pwomar.demon.co.uk 3 1 2 4 A > S > T > R
Martin Wood martinwood bigfoot.com 1 2 4 3 T > A > R > S
Rich Wood rich dynamite.org 4 1 2 3 A > S > R > T
Keith Willoughby keith.willoughby compaq.com 2 1 2 2 A > T = S = R
Invalid Votes
One invalid vote was cast with no name or address filled in between the
brackets on the ballot paper.
Votetakers remark
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Apologies for taking a long time in producing the results, due to a combination
of the size of the task involved with checking so many votes and such active
newsgroups, a new job and a cold quite probably brought on by that new job.
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Rationale and proposed charter from the CFV
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RATIONALE:
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RATIONALE: uk.{telecom.adverts|adverts.telecom}.mobile
Of late the uk.telecom.mobile has been receiving a significant number
of off charter advertisements (typical of mobiles for sale). It was
not my intention when I RFDed uk.telecom.mobile to provide a location
for adverts and I now feel they deserve a location elsewhere.
For some reason they seem to prefer uk.telecom.mobile to
uk.adverts.other, and I am therefore proposing this group.
The newsgroup will not be moderated.
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PROPOSED CHARTER
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Newsgroup line:
uk.telecom.adverts.mobile Adverts for uk mobile comms
or
uk.adverts.telecom.mobile Adverts for uk mobile comms
CHARTER: uk.{telecom.adverts|adverts.telecom}.mobile
This group is for the advertising of products, services and
accessories suitable for use with the UK mobile and paging telephone
networks.
Binaries are not permitted on this group, however references
to FTP-able material and Web URLs are allowed.
Advertisements are allowed. The recommended formats for
headers are below and should be followed by a brief description:-
FS: For Sale
WTB: Wanted
JOB: Jobs Offered
JOB WANTED: Jobs Wanted
ANNOUNCE: Announcements
COMM: Commercial company with a wide range of products
Advertisements should be less than 100 lines, if a longer
advert is required a brief description should be posted with the full
description on a suitable web site and a URL to that web site.
Advertisements should not be reposted for 14 days unless the
posts have proper "supersedes" and "expires" headers. This includes
similar advertisements for the same product from the same supplier.
Cross-posts to other uk.* groups are not permitted.
This newsgroup is unmoderated.
END CHARTER
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