20 Jul 1999: uk.culture.arts.writing
From: alan@whirlnet.demon.co.uk (Alan Ford)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:30:50 GMT
Subject: RESULTS: uk.culture.arts.writing New Newsgroup PASSES 39:14
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
uk.culture.arts.writing new newsgroup PASSES 39:14
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Voting began Monday 21 June 1999
Voting closed Wednesday 7 July 1999 23:59:59 BST
Ballot ID was WRITING
Proponent: stephen@greenpen.demon.co.uk (stephen tweed)
Votetaker: alan@whirlnet.demon.co.uk (Alan Ford)
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DISTRIBUTION
These results have been posted to:
uk.net.news.announce
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RESULTS COUNTING
The three options were:
1) Create New Newsgroup (YES)
2) Status Quo (SQ) no new newsgroup
3) Re Open Discussion (ROD) discussion reopens
STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo:
YES preferred to Status Quo by 42 votes to 9
ROD preferred to Status Quo by 41 votes to 6
All options beat status quo by at least 12 votes and so continue...
STAGE TWO - Remaining options compared with each other
YES preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 39 votes to 14
YES was preferred to all the other options, and had a majority of more than
twelve, therefore the group is created with the charter as given below.
There were a total of 54 votes.
There will be a five day discussion period after these results have
been posted before the group is created to allow for any allegations
of irregularities to be raised.
The Rationale, Summary of Discussion, Proposal, and Charter follow
the main results for informational purposes.
RAW PREFERENCES GRID
YES SQ ROD
YES [n/a] [ 42] [ 39]
SQ [ 9] [n/a] [ 6]
ROD [ 14] [ 41] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 42 votes preferred
option one (YES) to SQ while 14 votes preferred reopening the discussion
to option one (YES).
OPPOSITE COMPARISONS GRID
YES SQ ROD
YES [n/a] [ 33] [ 25]
SQ [-33] [n/a] [-35]
ROD [-25] [ 35] [n/a]
In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast
that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option
appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were
cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the option
appropriate to the number's row. For instance, 33 more people preferred
Option 1 (YES) to Status Quo than preferred Status Quo to Option 1 (YES).
As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive,
Option 1 (YES) was preferred to all other options and hence wins the
ballot.
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THE RESULTS IN FULL
Total Votes: 54 votes.
VOTER EMAIL ADDRESS YES NO (SQ) ROD
Alex Dawson virgin.net9@virgin.net 1 3 2
Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk 3 2 1
Andy Roberts andyrobts@zetnet.co.uk 1 2 3
Anthony Gold tgold@panix.com 3 2 1
Barry Salter ukvotes@salterg.demon.co.uk 3 2 1
Bill Davies billyboy@gto.net.om 1 3 2
Claire Speed c.speed@mcc.ac.uk 1 3 2
Darren Wyn Rees merlin@A470.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
Dave Mayall david.mayall@ukonline.co.uk 2 1 1
Dave Smith dave@maildulf.demon.co.uk 1 2 3
Dave Sparks Dave.Sparks@sisyphus.demon.co.uk 1
David Damerell damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk 3 2 1
David John david@amanuensis.demon.co.uk 1 2 3
David Lane dalane@argonet.co.uk 1 3 2
David Monk david.monk@virgin.net 1 3 2
David York davidyork@csi.com 1 3 2
Dione M Collumbe DioneDover@aol.com 1
Duncan Reid dunc@thermal.u-net.com 1 3 2
Eddie French eddie@efrench.freeserve.co.uk 1
Edward King eaking@ulape.demon.co.uk 2 3 1
Ellen Mizzell ellen@tictac.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
Ian Sharp nntp@sharpip.demon.co.uk 1
James Coupe james@obeah.demon.co.uk 1
Jenna Eden@publishing.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
Jezza jezza@hotwells.freeserve.co.uk 1 3 2
Jim Hill jim@jh-c.demon.co.uk 3 2 1
Jo Walton Jo@bluejo.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
John Davies john@redwoods.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
Jon S Green jonsg@pobox.com 1 3 2
Kevin Andreoli kevin.andreoli@ukgateway.net 2 3 1
Kevin McGee htc@indigo.ie 1 3 2
Kye Valongo admin@ukwriters.com 1 3 2
Kyle MacRae kylemacrae@kooks.freeserve.co.uk 1 2 2
Maga magawiska@softhome.net 1 3 2
Margaret Sutton margaret@sutton26.freeserve.co.uk 1 2
martin martin@freedom.screaming.net 2 3 1
Mike Tan miketan@duntone.demon.co.uk 1
Ms Mumble msmumble@aol.com 1 3 2
Paul Bolchover pb10003@cus.cam.ac.uk 1 2 3
Penny Gaines penny@frodo.demon.co.uk 2 3 1
Peter Parry peter@wppltd.demon.co.uk 3 2 1
Philip Powell philip@blencathra.demon.co.uk 3 2 1
Ray rpalmer@editors.freeserve.co.uk 1
Robbie robbie@arrakis.nu 1 3 2
S.W.F. Borthwick swfb@bokop.win-uk.net 1 1 2
Simon Smith wolfgang@FreeNet.co.uk 1 3 2
stephen tweed stephen@greenpen.demon.co.uk 1 2
Steve Yerbury stevey@stevey.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
Suze Hall suze@theworkhouse1.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
tobias erle vote-uk@kholdan.snafu.de 1 3 2
Tony tony@tagman.demon.co.uk 1 3 2
VinceH vinceh@softrock.co.uk 1 3 2
Vincent Shaw-Morton vincent.s@virgin.net 1
xxaml aml@xxaml.in2home.co.uk 1 3 2
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VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS:
Appologies for the delay -- it took me several days to make sure I had
understood the complex voting system, but here are the results, and they
are very clear.
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PROPONENT'S RATIONALE:
There is a clear need, and indeed a great demand, for a UK
specific newsgroup. There is no specific writing or writing
related newsgroup in the uk hierarchy at present.
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PROPONENT'S SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION
The third rfd has largely been concerned with four points:
1/ A fair amount of griping concerning punctuation and grammar in the
charter.
2/ The emergence of an alternative computer generated charter during
the second rfd, and an attempt to replace the present charter with
it in the third rfd.
3/ An attempt to re-introduce advertisements, which were banned by a
majority decision, some time ago.
4/ An attempt at removing the present proponent.
The present proponent has been led to believe that the majority of
posters are fed up with all the incessant bickering and just wish to
have the newsgroup up and running. Hence the CFV.
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CHANGES FROM THIRD RFD
* "Both professional and amateur writers are welcome." changed to
"All writers and potential writers are welcome."
* Binaries and Formatting section expanded to incorporate pointer to
'how to configure newsreader' document and mention of web and ftp sites.
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NEWSGROUP LINE
uk.culture.arts.writing For discussion of writing and associated topics
CHARTER
This newsgroup is a broadly based forum for all genres and aspects of
writing from a UK perspective. All writers and potential writers are
welcome.
Posting of work by writers is discouraged due to the availability of
other forums for this purpose. Pointers to relevant URLs are however
welcome.
ADVERTISMENTS
All advertisments are banned except for URLs to writers' works
as described above.
BINARIES
Binaries are forbidden, except for short cryptographic signatures
(such as PGP). HTML & RTF postings are also unwelcome in this
newsgroup. Such material belongs on a web or ftp site to which a
pointer may be posted. Posts must be readable as plain text. To
see how to make your newsreader comply with this, read
http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html
SIGNATURE FILES
Posters are requested to limit their signature files to four
lines or less.
END CHARTER
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