16 Sep 1999: uk.education.openuniversity
From: swinny@cix.compulink.co.uk (Robert Felton)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:29:20 GMT
Subject: RESULT - Create uk.education.openuniversity PASSES 69:6
Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.education.misc,alt.education.distance,misc.education
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RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
Summary: Creating new newsgroup uk.education.openuniversity
Create of newsgroup uk.education.openuniversity PASSES 69:6
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Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 6th June 1999.
Proponent: mark@townshend-wise.freeserve.co.uk (Mark Townshend)
Votetaker: votequestion@swinny.cix.co.uk (Rob Felton)
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Distribution:
uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.education.misc,
alt.education.distance, misc.education
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The Results:
The results follow below in the following order:
1) Result
2) Particulars of the Vote
3) Votetakers comments
4) Voting and Appeal guidelines
5) Rationale & Newsgroup charter
PROPOSAL - Creating new newsgroup uk.education.openuniversity
YES = 69
NO = 6
ABSTAIN = 2
YES beat NO by a majority of 63 votes, and this is more than the +12
majority required to beat the status quo.
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The Particulars of the Vote
YES VOTES
Abby abbys@tinet.e""i
Alex Dawson alex.dawson@ueac@au@k
Andrew Plant andrew@nethercourt.demonku,oc##
Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.demonku,oc##
Ann Chanas a.chanas@dial.pipex@moc@
Barry Salter barrykas@salterg.demonku,oc##
Bill Davies billyboy@gto.omten
Bob Clark clark@brutele#bee
Brett Paul Dunbar brett@dimetrodon.demonku,oc##
Bruce Mardle bruce@algol.demonku,oc##
C Neil Bauers nbauers@samphire.demonku,oc##
Chris Fynn cfynn@dirconku,oc##
Chris Keen vote@aimless.demonku,oc##
Christine Reardon creardon@rmplc#ten
Claire Speed c.speed@mccc@au@k
Colin Watson cjw44@camc@au@k
Dave Hughes troubleshooter@claraku,oc##
Dave Mayall david.mayall@ukonlineku,oc##
David Bloor david@bloor.demonku,oc##
David Damerell damerell@chiark.greenend*ku&&gro
David Emmerson dave@montecristo.demonku,oc##
Dominic Cooper-Borthwick zig@zagz.freeserveku,oc##
Doug Weller dweller@ramtops.demonku,oc##
Duncan Reid dunc@thermal.u-net@moc@
Eddie Hallahan eddy.hallahan@strathc@au@k
Edward King eaking@ulape.demonku,oc##
Glynn Bradley Glynn@euphony.demonku,oc##
Gordon Millner gordon@geecomp.demonku,oc##
Graham Nye graham@tyndale.demonku,oc##
Gus Wilson gucz@mj-12.demonku,oc##
Guy Morgan ou@onelight.demonku,oc##
Ian Coghlan ian_coghlan@bigfoot@moc@
Ian Peattie ian@john-richardku,oc##
Imran Ghory ImranG@btinternet@moc@
John Bennett caliban@which#ten
John Cartmell john@cartmell.demonku,oc##
Jonathan Tait jonathan@tait41.freeserveku,oc##
julie.fox julie.fox@virgin?ten
Kevin user@scenery.freeserveku,oc##
Livia Mitson livia@wheelwright*etn
Mark Goodge mark@good-stuffku,oc##
Mark Townshend mark@townshend-wise.freeserveku,oc##
Markus Needham Markus_Needham@germars.freeserveku,oc##
Matthew Malthouse matthew.malthouse@guardianku,oc##
Michael McMullin mcmullin@iol.e""i
Michael Parry michael@cavrdg.demonku,oc##
Mike James mike.james@infomax.demonku,oc##
Neil Tungate neil@skipper.demonku,oc##
Nigel Mercier ndm.usenet99@iname@moc@
Pam Willoughby pjw106@yorkc@au@k
Paul Bolchover pb10003@cus.camc@au@k
PETER BRUCE NEWSMASTER@THULE.DEMONku,oc##
Peter Murphy pete@ento.demonku,oc##
Peter Parry peter@wppltd.demonku,oc##
Philip Hunt philh@vision25.demonku,oc##
Philip Powell philip@blencathra.demonku,oc##
Philip Preston philip@preston20.freeserveku,oc##
Raina Cooper-Borthwick raina@herkeyboard.freeserveku,oc##
Rachel Chilton rachel.chilton@infomax.demonku,oc#
Stephen Gates sgates@lineone?ten
Steve Lewin slewin@claraku,oc##
STEVE PEAKE puppet@dial.pipex<>moc
Steve Wright steve@wrightnet.demonku,oc##
Sue Melvin sue.melvin@lineone+etn
Susan Ashton susan@ashton.demonku,oc##
The Ancient Geek geek@bedlam.u-net,co@m
Thom Baguley t.s.baguley@lboro@caku
Tim Harrison tim@tlharr.freeserveku,co##
William Boughton bill@xencat.demonku,co##
NO VOTES
Bernice Lane wolf@wolfdog@moc@
Gary Lane admin@payles@moc@
Inger Klostergaard inger@post4.dk~tele
Martin Matthews martin@kernow1999.freeserveku,oc##
sfleenor sfleenor@naxs@moc@
simon gray simon@star-one*ku&&gro
ABSTAIN
James Coupe james@obeah.demonku,oc##
James Farrar james.farrar@icc@au@k
INVALID VOTES
No vote intention indicated on ballot paper
Fenny yorks.lass@net.ntl##moc*
No email address on ballot paper
tobias erle
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Votetakers Notes:
I apologise to the delay in counting this vote.
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RATIONALE:
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The Open University is a well established distance learning
organisation, there are many thousands of students and as yet no public
news group.
Some courses provide "Firstclass" a web based package with news
facilites, but this is often full of non OU related postings and a vast
number of them.
This news group will be for those students who do not have Firstclass or
do not like it, or even non-students who are interested in the OU. I
see this group being used to bring together students on a national (or
international) level, for coursework queries and discussion of courses
and qualifications.
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SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION & CHANGES TO RFD
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The first RFD I proposed was misc.education.open-university this was
discussed for a brief period with the committee at isc. Their advice
was that a 15 charcter name would be a first and could result in long
delays in the process, they also suggested that an alt. or uk. group
would be a faster route and a more appropriate place for such a group.
The second RFD I proposed was alt.education.openuniversity this was
discussed for a couple of weeks in alt.config. The concensus of the
discussion was that the UK Open University may be confused with other
countries open universities without additional clarification.
It was also frequently discussed that the reputation of the alt.
heirachy was limitting the propagation of alt. groups among news group
servers.
The third RFD I proposed was uk.education.openuniversity this was
discussed for 40 days in uk.net.news.config on the whole the responses
where good, the only objections where on the grounds of propagation of
the uk. heirachy outside the UK, there were two objectors on this basis
I posted a survey to a number of international groups to assess the
international support for the uk. heirachy, I received responses from
many countries outside the UK including most of the major countries who
offer Open University courses.
The fourth RFD I proposed was misc.education.openuniversity this
was discussed for 30 day in news.groups the majority of responses to
this RFD were that the group should be in the uk heirachy and that
the confusion between no-UK open universities would again be a problem.
The response was so vehemently against the group being in misc. that I
withdrew the RFD before a vote was taken and proceeded with the uk.
proposal.
I requested a Fast-Track of uk.education.openuniversity which failed
due to objections from the two previous objectors and two others.
The group is now goin to a vote.
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PROPOSED or AMENDED CHARTER
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Appropriate topics for uk.education.openuniversity include questions and
comments about Open University courses, assignment queries, coursework,
setting up of local (or national) on line study groups and general
queries about the Open University.
Binaries should be linked by a URL or FTP address and not posted to the
group.
Advertisements are not permitted but "Wanted:" posts are permitted and
should be relevant to the OU or the interests of it's students.
Postings relating to a particular subject should begin with the course
code for that subject if known e.g M353: or OUSA:.
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