From: Barry Salter Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.politics.misc Subject: RESULT: uk.politics.parties.libdem FAILS 25:18 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:02:15 GMT Message-ID: <-uk.politics.parties.libdem-FI5LEG.6IG@clw.cs.man.ac.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: Creation of uk.politics.parties.libdem PROPOSAL - Creation of uk.politics.parties.libdem FAILS 25:18 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 12th September 1999. Proponent: Brett Paul Dunbar Votetaker: Barry Salter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Distribution: uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.politics.misc - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Particulars of the Vote 3) Votetakers Comments 4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 5) Rationale & Proposed Charter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RESULTS: PROPOSAL - Creation of uk.politics.parties.libdem YES : 25 votes NO : 18 votes ABSTAIN : 4 votes Invalid : 2 votes Total : 49 votes YES beat NO by a majority of 7 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the group is not created. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ uk.politics.parties.libdem Final Vote Ack Voted Yes 25 votes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- a%dawson`virgin%tne Alex Dawson alanr`lightnet%oc%ku Alan Rayner alex`alexh%clara%oc%ku Alex Holden brett`dimetrodon%demon%oc%ku Brett Paul Dunbar broonie`tardis%ed%ac%uk Mark Brown dave`hbarnet%freeserve%oc%ku Dave Hillam fulleraaron`ukonline%oc%ku Aaron Fuller hifranc`breathemail%tne Francisco De Freitas ikr2`cix%oc%ku Ian K. Ridley jas`jmkemp%demon%oc%ku J M Kemp jball`transoft%omc Jon Ball merlin`netlink%oc%ku Darren Wyn Rees michael`cavrdg%demon%oc%ku Michael Parry papanui`cwcom%tne Martin W M Bryant phil`saxmund%demon%oc%ku Phil Clark philh`vision25%demon%oc%ku Philip Hunt pmh`classicfm%tne Paul M. Hutchinson richard`ppeace%demon%oc%ku Richard Tibbetts richard`tga%u-net%omc Richard Gadsden rpjs`kalevala%demon%oc%ku Roy Stilling tfl`psp%oc%ku T Lee tim-lee`bigfoot%omc Tim Harrison tim`kooky%rgo Tim Bray tim`poyningsclose%freeserve%oc%ku Tim Miller wdonald`ibm%tne Bill Donald Voted No - 18 votes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alaric`harlech%demon%oc%ku Iain Bowen craig`scot%demon%oc%ku Craig Cockburn david`election%demon%oc%ku David Boothroyd gandj`cix%oc%ku Gavin Drake gazza%jones`virgin%tne Gary Jones james`sfgiants22%freeserve%oc%ku James Farrar jezza`hotwells%freeserve%oc%ku Jezza lnorton`cix%oc%ku L Norton neil`skipper%rgo%ku Neil Tungate news`alba1314%demon%oc%ku Mr Russell Horn news`druidic%isles%tne Mark Ynys-Mon nigel`ashton%demon%oc%ku Nigel Ashton richard`fairbairn%omc Richard Fairbairn rosenstiel`cix%oc%ku Colin Rosenstiel rphillips`cix%oc%ku R Phillips simon`star-one%rgo%ku Simon Gray steve`wrightnet%demon%oc%ku Steve Wright vote-uk`kholdan%snafu%ed Tobias Erle Abstained - 4 votes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- andy`pigsonthewing%demon%oc%ku Andy Mabbett eaking`ulape%demon%oc%ku Edward King murble-news`yuri%rgo%ku William Boughton philip`blencathra%demon%oc%ku Philip Powell Votes in error - 2 votes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- quantum`crosslink%tne atruelove ! No vote statement in message rob`bleunoze%demon%oc%ku Rob Hill ! Acknowledgement bounced - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Votetakers Comments: As usual, people managed to completely fail to follow the instructions on the ballot paper and had to be informed of the error of their ways. All of the votes affected by this *were* resubmitted and have been counted. This was also the first time that I've run two votes at the same time and all appears to have worked perfectly even though both lots of votes were submitted to the same address. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RATIONALE: uk.politics.parties.libdem Within uk.politics.* there is currently no place to discuss party-specific politics, the volume of uk.politics.misc makes it hard to find relevant discussions. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PROPOSED CHARTER: uk.politics.parties.libdem uk.politics.parties.libdem exists for the discussion of the policies and internal politics of the Liberal Democrats. Discussion should be directly relevant to the Party; discussion related only to other political parties is off topic. Advertising is forbidden. 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