Path: oaktree.co.uk!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: brianjones@worcester.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.games.misc,uk.people.dead Subject: Result - Creation of newsgroup uk.games.dead-pool - fails Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:52:01 GMT Sender: control@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Approved: Charles Lindsey acting as control Message-ID: X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 947265174 mail2news:911 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!probity.mcc.ac.uk!nessie.mcc.ac.uk!clw.cs.man.ac.uk Lines: 167 Xref: oaktree.co.uk uk.net.news.announce:1629 uk.net.news.config:81248 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Result of CFV - ------------- for new newsgroup uk.games.dead-pool Fails 12:10 Summary - ------- Votes in favour 12 Votes against 10 Abstain 6 Voting closed at 23:59:59 on 12 December 1999 Under the rules of UK newsgroup creation the votes in favour must exceed votes against by more than twelve, therefore with twelve in favour and ten against, this group will not be created. Votes received - -------------- Andy Bain andy}ioproductions{co{uk YES Barry Dorrans barryd}bann{co{uk YES Chris M. Dickson chris}dickson{demon{co{uk YES Dave Millard dave}focus3{demon{co{uk YES Firebeast steve}firebeast.force9.co.uk YES James Crossan james}killerwatt{demon{co{uk YES Jason Waghorn j}tesco{net YES Liam K liamk}hotmail{com YES M@ mgk}ecs{soton{ac{uk YES Mike Fleming mike}tauzero{co{uk YES Mike Wallis m{wallis}leeds{ac{uk YES ray ray}drunkasaskunk{freeserve{co{uk YES Alan Fleming af}contract{co{uk NO Alex Dawson alex{dawson}uea{ac{uk NO Andrew Stoker andrew}peek-a-boo{org{uk NO Andy Walker a{j{walker}virgin{net NO Iain Bowen alaric}harlech{demon{co{uk NO Kevin Lee krl}keltia4{co{uk NO Neil Horlock Neil{Horlock}mcmail{com NO Rex M F Smith sumisu}gehena{demon{co{uk NO robbie vote}arrakis{nu NO Sandy Morton atm}sandymillport{demon{co{uk NO Andy Mabbett andy}pigsonthewing{demon{co{uk ABSTAIN Jeffrey Goldberg J{Goldberg}Cranfield{ac{uk ABSTAIN Peter Alfredsen peteralf}softhome{net ABSTAIN Philip Powell philip}blencathra{demon{co{uk ABSTAIN simon gray simon}star-one{org{uk ABSTAIN Thomas Lee tfl}psp{co{uk ABSTAIN Invalid vote Jon Thomson (none given) (NUL) One vote was not counted, as it failed to contain the e-mail address within the ballot format, even after a message was sent requesting the voting details be completed correctly. For voting questions *only* contact: votequestion@worcester.demon.co.uk (Votetaker - Brian Jones). For questions about the proposed new newsgroup contact the proponent: Chris M. Dickson ================================================================= CHANGES FROM RFD - ---------------- Expansion of description of "dead pool" games within the charter. SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION - --------------------- There was a suggestion that we might more usefully change the charter of uk.people.dead to permit dead pool games, but this was rejected for the reasons raised in the creation of the earlier newsgroup. RATIONALE AND CHARTER AS AMENDED - -------------------------------- REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated newsgroup uk.games.dead-pool This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a UK-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup uk.games.dead-pool One line description: uk.games.dead-pool The Stiff Stakes; celebrity mortality speculation RATIONALE: The charter for uk.people.dead specifically prohibits "discussions of the mechanics and rules of the various dead pools", but readers of that newsgroup have expressed an interest in playing dead pool games. Furthermore, the popularity of the phenomenon has led to at least sixteen different websites being created to run games; there are also countless games being played offline. I therefore propose a newsgroup in which dead pool games themselves may be discussed and played. CHARTER: This newsgroup is for discussion and play of Dead Pool and other similar games. The standard model is the game played in the 1988 "Dirty Harry" film "The Dead Pool", in which participants named celebrities likely to die by the end of the game and earned credit for correct nominations. Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be crossposted to more than TWO other newsgroups; any messages cross-posted to uk.people.dead must specifically focus upon dead people as opposed to dead pools. ADVERTISING: Advertising is forbidden, with these exceptions: Announcements of Dead Pool games and closely related phenomena are permitted in articles of twenty or fewer lines posted at a frequency of not more than one announcement per game per week or one announcement per poster per week. This does not prohibit mention of such games in signatures of four or fewer lines at the bottom of relevant articles posted in accordance with this charter. BINARIES & FORMATTING: Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or ftp site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where authentication is important and should be as short as possible. Posts must be readable as plaintext. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make your newsreader comply with this, read PROPONENT: Chris M. Dickson ================================================================= This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOHX9G2OfGXkh8vHZAQFfcgP/VHnjoG0RXh4UbsdAZkLB2dDwcc9sc07K FUpYuB00Ykul/5fRw3XsTRZvDfci7kuZhRoHnswfyFeKw7k3GaJlluHFiVG5TZPp qXQVCGgUVA5zYMg20NuYFhyobsW66Ee+PN13glCzicBzyJSiTaIgJjqOGM3LrV8j wC2mEmQlCqE= =xuhz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Brian Jones Worcester, United Kingdom mailto: brianjones@worcester.demon.co.uk