Path: oaktree.co.uk!ewrotcd!feed-ewrotcd!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!server1.netnews.ja.net!fu-berlin.de!news-MUC.ecrc.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Chris Dickson Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,alt.games.mornington.cresent,alt.games.mornington.crescent Subject: RESULT: newsgroup uk.games.mornington-crescent PASSES Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:52:50 GMT Sender: control@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Approved: Charles Lindsey acting as control Message-ID: X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 947646782 mail2news:25807 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!serenity.mcc.ac.uk!nessie.mcc.ac.uk!clw.cs.man.ac.uk Lines: 335 Xref: oaktree.co.uk uk.net.news.announce:1633 uk.net.news.config:81544 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT - newsgroup uk.games.mornington-crescent PASSES Summary of results: =================== The six options were: Option 1: Create uk.games.mornington-crescent Option 2: Create uk.games.mornington.crescent Option 3: Create uk.games.mornington-cresent Option 4: Create uk.games.mornington.cresent Status Quo (Create no new newsgroup) Re-Open Discussion (ROD) STAGE ONE - All options compared to Status Quo: Option 1 preferred to Status Quo by 69 votes to 11 Option 2 preferred to Status Quo by 54 votes to 21 Option 3 preferred to Status Quo by 41 votes to 31 Option 4 preferred to Status Quo by 41 votes to 30 Re-Open Discussion preferred to Status Quo by 50 votes to 22 As Option 1, Option 2 and Re-Open Discussion beat Status Quo by at least 12 votes, they all move to Stage Two. STAGE TWO - Surviving options compared to each other: Option 1 preferred to Option 2 by 69 votes to 13 Option 1 preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 70 votes to 10 Option 2 preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 49 votes to 31 As Option 1 was preferred to all options surviving from Stage One, it is the Condorcet winner. Therefore, as the result of this vote, a newsgroup called uk.games.mornington-crescent is created. ============================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 8th December 1999 Proponent: ugc-prop@salterg.demon.co.uk (Barry Salter) Votetaker: c.dickson@ukvoting.org.uk (Chris M. Dickson) Distribution: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,alt.games.mornington.cresent,alt.games .mornington.crescent ============================================================================== The Results: The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Particulars of the Vote 3) Votetakers Comments 4) Voting and Appeal Guidelines 5) Rationale & Proposed Charter ============================================================================== RESULTS: RAW PREFERENCES GRID 1 2 3 4 SQ ROD Option 1 [n/a] [ 69] [ 75] [ 75] [ 69] [ 70] Option 2 [ 13] [n/a] [ 52] [ 54] [ 54] [ 49] Option 3 [ 5] [ 18] [n/a] [ 40] [ 41] [ 38] Option 4 [ 7] [ 10] [ 14] [n/a] [ 41] [ 35] Status Quo [ 11] [ 21] [ 31] [ 30] [n/a] [ 22] ROD [ 10] [ 31] [ 39] [ 44] [ 50] [n/a] In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate to the number's column For instance, 69 votes preferred option one (uk.games.mornington-crescent) to option two (uk.games.mornington.crescent) while 44 votes preferred reopening the discussion to option four (uk.games.mornington.cresent). OPPOSITE COMPARISONS GRID 1 2 ROD Option 1 [n/a] [ 56] [ 60] Option 2 [-56] [n/a] [ 18] ROD [-60] [-18] [n/a] In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the option appropriate to the number's row. For instance, 56 more people preferred Option 1 to Option 2 than preferred Option 2 to Option 1. As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive, Option 1 was preferred to all other options and hence wins the ballot. ============================================================================== PARTICULARS OF THE VOTE: Re-Open Discussion -------------\ Status Quo (no group is created) -----------\ | Option 4: create uk.games.mornington.cresent ---------\ | | Option 3: create uk.games.mornington-cresent -------\ | | | Option 2: create uk.games.mornington.crescent -----\ | | | | Option 1: create uk.games.mornington-crescent ---\ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | R | | | | S O Voter's Name Voter's E-mail Address 1 2 3 4 Q D (the)webhamster webhamster trampette com 1 2 5 6 3 4 A Plantigrade Omnivore D Budd mcc ac uk 1 2 3 4 5 6 Alan Staniforth alan apollonia org 1 2 5 6 3 4 Alex D. Baxter alex-news oenone demon co uk 1 4 2 4 4 3 Alex Dawson alex dawson uea ac uk 1 4 4 4 3 2 Alex Holden alex alexh clara co uk 1 6 6 6 6 5 Alex Page mchu7ap2 fs2 ee umist ac uk 1 2 4 3 Andrew Pattle andrew egplc demon co uk 1 2 3 4 6 5 Andrew Stoker andrew peek-a-boo org uk 2 4 3 4 1 2 Andy Roberts andyrobts zetnet co uk 4 3 6 2 5 1 Andy Walker a j walker virgin net 1 4 5 5 2 3 Anthony R. Gold tgold panix com 1 3 2 astral alice alice darkwave org uk 1 2 3 Barry Salter ukvotes salterg demon co uk 2 4 1 3 6 5 Brett Paul Dunbar brett dimetrodon demon co uk 1 2 2 2 1 1 Charles Bryant ugm vote ch chch demon co uk 1 2 3 4 5 Charles F Hankel charles hankel mersinet co uk 1 2 Charles Lindsey chl clw cs man ac uk 1 2 3 3 1 4 Chris Croughton chris keris demon co uk 1 4 2 5 3 Chris Dennis chris dennis ndirect co uk 1 2 6 6 4 3 Colin Murphy ql 4 ever bigfoot com 1 2 3 4 5 6 Dave Holland dave zenda demon co uk 1 2 3 David Clark David Clark warwick ac uk 1 2 4 5 6 3 David Greenhough greeny spirit demon co uk 2 1 4 3 6 5 David Jackson david middleroom demon co uk 1 2 3 David John david amanuensis demon co uk 1 2 3 4 5 6 David Wood david wood2 demon co uk 1 2 4 4 5 3 Del derek knight bigfoot com 1 2 4 3 6 5 Denis McMahon denis pickaxe demon co uk 6 4 5 3 1 2 DinkiPixie dinkipix dinkipix co uk 1 2 3 4 6 5 Fi fd216 cam ac uk 1 2 3 4 6 5 Ian Jackson ijackson chiark greenend org uk 3 4 5 6 2 1 Ian Kitching systimk bridge anglia ac uk 1 2 5 6 4 3 J Watson engineer181 holistic clara net 1 5 6 3 4 2 James Bellaire bellaire tk com 1 2 4 5 3 6 James Coupe james obeah demon co uk 1 2 3 James Farrar james sfgiants22 freeserve co uk 1 4 5 5 3 2 Jason Waghorn wj tesco net 2 1 3 4 6 5 Jezza jezza hotwells freeserve co uk 2 1 4 3 5 6 Jim Benton-Evans jim benton-evans demon co uk 1 3 2 4 6 5 John A Fotheringham jaf jafsoft com 5 3 4 1 2 6 John Dexter JDexter Westfarthing demon co uk 1 2 4 4 3 4 John Ewing john gelsalba demon co uk 1 Kate L Pugh kake ox compsoc net Keith Willoughby keith flat222 org 2 5 1 4 6 3 Livia Mitson livia wheelwright net 1 2 3 4 6 5 Luke Bosman lukebosman shrimpers org uk 1 1 2 M@ mgk ecs soton ac uk 1 2 3 4 6 5 Malcolm Mladenovic mbm acm org 1 2 1 2 1 1 Marcus Flavin aurelius theculture org 1 2 3 4 6 5 Marcus Houlden mcvote houlden f9 co uk 1 1 1 1 3 2 Mark Tyndall mrt102 york ac uk 1 2 4 3 6 5 martinr martinr thequiff demon co uk 6 4 3 1 5 2 martonvambac fwinstanley hotmail com 1 2 3 4 5 6 Matthew Hambley snowyowl therealm freeserve co uk 1 2 3 4 6 5 Mike Fleming mike tauzero co uk 1 2 4 5 6 3 Neil Horlock Neil Horlock mcmail com 1 Niles alex foster zetnet co uk 1 2 6 6 6 6 Nyk Tarr Nyk tomobiki u-net com 1 2 3 Paul Paul-U xebon clara co uk 1 3 3 3 3 2 Paul Bolchover pb10003 cus cam ac uk 1 2 4 5 3 6 Paul Leake P J Leake durham ac uk 3 4 5 6 2 1 Pete Humble peet dircon co uk 1 Peter Alfredsen peteralf softhome net 3 4 5 6 1 2 Peter Corlett abuse cabal org uk 1 3 2 Peter McMinn peter lemoncurry cix co uk 2 1 3 3 4 4 Phil Clark phil saxmund demon co uk 1 4 3 5 6 2 Philip Powell philip blencathra demon co uk 1 5 3 5 4 2 PRAR prar bizonline co uk 4 3 4 3 1 2 Rachael Munns vashti+cfv dream org uk 1 Rex M F Smith sumisu gehena demon co uk 1 3 5 6 4 2 Rick Martin rick martin pixel-group com 4 1 4 4 3 2 robbie robbie arrakis nu 1 4 2 3 6 5 Sarah Reeson sarah gubbins net 1 3 2 4 Steph Peters steph sandbenders demon co uk 2 1 3 3 5 4 Steve Dodd dirk loth demon co uk 1 1 1 Steve Wright steve wrightnet demon co uk 1 2 Tez Burke burkesworks lineone net 1 2 3 3 4 5 Thomas Lee tfl psp co uk 1 4 2 5 6 3 Tim Forcer tmf ecs soton ac uk 2 1 4 3 6 5 Tim Miller tm9829 bristol ac uk 1 3 2 4 6 5 Tobias Erle vote-uk kholdan snafu de 6 5 4 3 1 2 Toby Speight Toby Speight streapadair freeserve co uk 1 2 2 2 1 1 Tom Joyce t m joyce dunelm org uk 1 3 2 4 Tony Towers tony cats tele2 co uk 1 2 4 3 {R} {R} sunshine tm 1 2 3 4 6 5 ============================================================================== Votetakers Comments: Many thanks to all voters for remembering to include their real names and e- mail addresses on their votes. Many thanks also for including the most entertaining collection of signatures and extra header lines I've yet seen while taking a vote. One person took the "PLEASE RANK THE ABOVE OPTIONS IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE" instruction too literally and rearranged the order in which the options appeared on the voting paper. Please don't do this. Many apologies for the length of time it took me to produce these results. ============================================================================== This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk.* hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. ============================================================================== RATIONALE: (including Summary of Discussion) The World Mornington Crescent Championships are going to take place in October this year. Crescent is a game with a very long history which is frequently discussed in soc.culture.british. With the World Championship it is hoped that there will be additional interest in Mornington Crescent. Currently there are Mornington Crescent societies in Seventeen countries. Five of these countries (England, Scotland, Wales, USA, Italy) will take part in this years championship. The Japanese, Canadian and German teams hope to take part next year. Summary of Discussion: The majority of people responding to the RFD in unnc have said they would be in favour of the group. The name, however, is undecided, which is why I've requested a Condorcet vote. The naming options are the top four from the strawpoll that was held to reduce the number of options to be voted on, and, somewhat ironically, don't include the originally proposed name (uk.games.cresent). ============================================================================== CHARTER: uk.games.mornington-crescent For your newsgroups file: uk.games.mornington-crescent Discussion and play of Mornington Crescent Charter for unmoderated newsgroup uk.games.mornington-crescent: The group will discuss the various rule variations employed in different countries. These rules require the contestants to think for themselves and not rely on stock openings as is the case in Chess. In addition others are required because of the need to encompass the different topologies of the various Underground networks. In will also serve as a forum for discussing the various strategies employed by world class players such as Tim Brooke-Taylor and the late, great, Willie Rushton. Finally it will serve as a medium for playing the game itself. ADVERTISING Advertising is forbidden, with these exceptions: Suppliers of goods and services relevant to Mornington Crescent in the UK may post a pointer to their website or invitation to request details. This may not exceed four lines and may be posted no more often than once every three months. The subject line should begin "ADVERT:", except for vacancies, which should begin "JOB:". BINARIES & FORMATTING Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.), are *forbidden*, except for cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP). Binaries belong on a web or ftp site, whose URL may be posted. Posts must be in plain text. 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