From: "Chris M. Dickson" Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.local.lothians Subject: RESULT: Change to charter of uk.local.lothians PASSES 18:2 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:00:21 GMT Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES Summary: charter change of uk.local.lothians PROPOSAL - charter change PASSES 18:2 ======================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST, 13th October 1999. Proponent: Richard Fairbairn Votetaker: Chris M. Dickson ======================================================================== DISTRIBUTION: ============= uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.local.lothians ======================================================================== THE RESULTS: ============ The results follow below in the following order: 1) Results 2) Particulars of the vote 3) Votetaker's comments 4) Rationale & proposed charter change 5) Changed charter 6) Voting and appeal guidelines ======================================================================== RESULTS: ======== PROPOSAL - change charter of uk.local.lothians YES : 18 votes NO : 2 votes ABSTAIN : 2 votes Total : 22 votes YES beat NO by a majority of 16 votes. For charter change passage, there must be 12 more YES votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the charter is changed. ======================================================================== FINAL VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: =========================== Voted Yes - 18 votes ====================================================================== Stewart.Smith.ee.ed@ac.uk Stewart Smith richard.fairbairn.com@ Richard Fairbairn Bill.billybubbles.demon@co.uk Bill vote-uk.kholdan.snafu@de tobias erle david.mayall.ukonline.co@uk Dave Mayall tfl.psp.co@uk Thomas Lee bedfordtlfan.yahoo.com@ Denis F jezza.hotwells.freeserve@co.uk Jezza steve.wrightnet.demon@co.uk Steve Wright philip.blencathra.demon@co.uk Philip Powell mrt102.york.ac@uk Mark Tyndall ichard.cadence.com@ Ian Chard fulleraaron.ukonline.co@uk Aaron Fuller d.hillam.btinternet.com@ Dave Hillam tim.barrow.iname.com@ Tim Barrow peter.wppltd.demon@co.uk Peter Parry james.sfgiants22.freeserve@co.uk James Farrar alex.alexh.clara@co.uk Alex Holden Voted No - 2 votes ====================================================================== craig.scot.demon@co.uk Craig Cockburn Eugene.Mann.ukgateway.net@ Eugene Abstained - 2 votes ====================================================================== tc.mcs.net@ Thomas Cuny P.J.Leake.durham.ac@uk Paul Leake ======================================================================== VOTETAKER'S REMARKS: ==================== The forged cancellation of the first RFD was a clearly exceptional circumstance and caused some procedural headaches, but I believe the correct course of action was taken. I shall not enter into any correspondence regarding what the result would have been had that decision not been taken - or any other ifs, buts or maybes. Many thanks to all the voters for remembering to put their names and addresses on their papers. It is truly appreciated. ======================================================================== RATIONALE: ========== There has been an ever increasing problem with commercial advertising in uk.local.lothians. This proposed charter change is designed to attempt to eradicate the problem. ======================================================================== PROPOSED CHARTER CHANGE: ======================== EXISTING CHARTER: "Uk.local.lothians is for the discussion of any topic relating to the Lothians. This area currently takes in the Unitary Authority areas of East Lothian, City of Edinburgh, Midlothian and West Lothian. Due to the diverse community in the Lothians, uk.local.lothians welcomes posts in any language, but considers English the main language. Posters in other languages are encouraged to give translations in English where possible. Commercial advertising is un-welcome, although a company reference in a signature not exceeding four lines is acceptable. Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more than a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be geographically adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of the post (e.g. "moving house from Glasgow to Edinburgh"). With the exception of PGP signatures, the posting of binaries or other encoded data files is not permitted." PROPOSAL: That the third paragraph of the above Charter be replaced by the following: "Commercial advertising is expressly forbidden. Any Commercial references in a signature file must not exceed 4 lines and must not be the purpose of the post." ======================================================================== MODIFIED CHARTER: ================= For your newsgroups file: uk.local.lothians discussions about the Lothians, Scotland Charter for unmoderated group uk.local.lothians Uk.local.lothians is for the discussion of any topic relating to the Lothians. This area currently takes in the Unitary Authority areas of East Lothian, City of Edinburgh, Midlothian and West Lothian. Due to the diverse community in the Lothians, uk.local.lothians welcomes posts in any language, but considers English the main language. Posters in other languages are encourged to give translations in English where possible. Commercial advertising is expressly forbidden. Any Commercial references in a signature file must not exceed 4 lines and must not be the purpose of the post. With the exception of PGP signatures, the posting of binaries or other encoded data files is not permitted. Proponent: Richard Fairbairn ======================================================================== This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. 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